Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 8#Category:Gibraltarians

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 04:58, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Somatostatin receptor agonists to :Category:Somatostatin inhibitors

:Nominator's rationale: I'm no expert here but I believe somatostatin receptor agonist and somatostatin inhibitor are synonyms (see first sentence of the article). It's always preferable to have the same name for the category and the corresponding article. I don't really care if we choose somatostatin receptor agonist for both or somatostatin inhibitor for both, but perhaps someone with more expertise can make an argument either way. Pichpich (talk) 23:39, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per WP:C2D, unless someone with expertise stops by to correct us. - RevelationDirect (talk) 13:26, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 04:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|House of la Marche}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Pichpich (talk) 23:20, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Delete for now, just one article, the category can be restored if and when a handful of articles about the early counts of la Marche are written. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
• Delete for Now with no objection to recreation if any ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:29, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 04:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Du Bouëxic family}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SMALLCAT: only one entry beyond the main article. There's another relevant article on fr.wiki (:fr:Charles Auguste du Bouëxic de Pinieux) but even if we translated that, the cat would still be smallish. Pichpich (talk) 23:18, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

:Accept I was assisting for someone who is doing translating, didn't realize the number in that family that could be translated was so small.Naraht (talk) 03:00, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

• Delete for now, just two articles, the category can be restored if and when a handful of articles about family members are written. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
• Delete for Now with no objection to recreation if any ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:31, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 04:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Dukes in Austria to :Category:Monarchs of Austria{{#if:| and :Category:{{{target2}}}}}

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. We do not have any other categories like this. I am not sure of the merge target, but at least this is the current parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:06, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose until a solution is found for all members of :Category:Dukes by country. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:44, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
• Merge Having Category:Dukes in Austria be the parent category of Category:Dukes of Austria is baffling. Totally open to the broader discussion advocated by LL, but keeping this prepositional layer cake in the mean time doesn't aid navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 04:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Klinger family}}

:Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT, will likely never expand beyond the two articles (father & son). GiantSnowman 18:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:12, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
• Delete for Now with no objection to recreation if we ever get up to 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:42, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge both. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 05:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose upmerging :Category:19th-century Regents of Egypt to :Category:Regents of Egypt{{#if:| and :Category:{{{target2}}}}}

:* Propose upmerging :Category:20th-century Regents of Egypt to :Category:Regents of Egypt

:Nominator's rationale: The 19C is a WP:SMALLCAT: 1 P 0 C, only item is already in parent. The 20C has 5 items, 4 of which are already in parent. Thus, categorising "by century" seems to have no added benefit in this case. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:40, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Simply remove them from the largely redundant parent category. Dimadick (talk) 16:39, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Dimadick seems to be creating many poor category trees. Categorizing by century is clearly not necessary for this tree. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:31, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
• Merge at least the 19th century with only one article. If the 20th century is kept, its articles should be removed from the parent category. I am surprised that Dimadick thinks that the parent category is largely redundant, as it has some 30 articles in it. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:59, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
• Merge 19th/Neutral on 20th With only 1 article, the 19th century cat is far too small to aid navigation. The 20th century one is not small but I defer to others if it is meaningful/defining. - 14:45, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 05:01, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Gibraltarians to :Category:Gibraltarian people

:Nominator's rationale: While the main article for this category is located at Gibraltarians, the category should follow the well-established naming conventions of people categories. Almost all such categories {{resize|(excluding those covering only ethnicity)}} use the format of either "X people" or "People from X". For example see the subcats of {{c|People by nationality}}, {{c|People by dependent territory}}, {{c|People by country subdivision}}, {{c|People by city}}, etc. Also note that the category for Canadians is at {{cat|Canadian people}}, Germans is at {{cat|German people}}, Indonesians is at {{cat|Indonesian people}}, Puerto Ricans is at {{cat|Puerto Rican people}}, etc. S.A. Julio (talk) 15:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:46, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
• Speedy rename per C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:32, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

:*I declined to use a speedy move given C2D arguments, and that the current name was the result of a CfD discussion. S.A. Julio (talk) 14:24, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

• Alt :Category:People from Gibraltar for sub-national administrative regions, we should not use a pretended, colonial demonym. Use the name of the colony instead - Gibraltar. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:53, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

:*The article on the topic is at Gibraltarians, a move discussion should be opened there before renaming the categories. There were also two previous CfD discussions (here and here) where there was a consensus to use "Gibraltarian" over "People from Gibraltar". S.A. Julio (talk) 14:24, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

:::This category is built upon a false claim in the Gibraltarians article that residents of Gibraltar are an ethnic minority. This is patently false and represents WP:OR since no evidence or citations are adduced in the article to support the claim. You could easily make the same claim Sydney or New York and they would be equally specious. Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:35, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

:::: I'm open minded about whether the article is misnamed, but that's an issue for an WP:RM, not CFD. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:53, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

• Rename This seems like a reasonable balance between WP:C2C and WP:C2D. - RevelationDirect (talk) 14:53, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 05:02, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Racing drivers from Réunion}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only contains one page Reshad de Gerus, which is already in {{c|French racing drivers}} and {{c|Sportsmen from Réunion}}. – Fayenatic London 13:21, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Delete since that 1 article is already well categorized. - RevelationDirect (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 05:02, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Brazilian political websites‎ (2 P) to :Category:Brazilian websites, :Category:Political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Brazil

:* Propose merging :Category:Egyptian political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Egyptian websites, :Category:Political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Egypt

:* Propose merging :Category:Ethiopian political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Ethiopian websites, :Category:Political websites and :Category:Politics of Ethiopia

:* Propose merging :Category:Finnish political websites‎ (2 P) to :Category:Finnish websites, :Category:European political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Finland

:* Propose merging :Category:Hungarian political websites‎ (2 P) to :Category:Hungarian websites, :Category:European political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Hungary

:* Propose merging :Category:Indian political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Indian websites, :Category:Asian political websites and :Category:Political mass media in India

:* Propose merging :Category:Kenyan political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Kenyan websites, :Category:Political websites and :Category:Politics of Kenya

:* Propose merging :Category:Mexican political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Mexican websites, :Category:Political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Mexico

:* Propose merging :Category:North Korean political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:North Korean websites, :Category:Asian political websites and :Category:Politics of North Korea

:* Propose merging :Category:Philippine political websites‎ (3 P) to :Category:Philippine websites, :Category:Asian political websites and :Category:Politics of the Philippines

:* Propose merging :Category:Singaporean political websites‎ (2 P) to :Category:Singaporean websites, :Category:Asian political websites and :Category:Politics of Singapore

:* Propose merging :Category:South Korean political websites‎ (3 P) to :Category:South Korean websites, :Category:Asian political websites and :Category:Political mass media in South Korea

:* Propose merging :Category:Spanish political websites‎ (2 P) to :Category:Spanish websites, :Category:European political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Spain

:* Propose merging :Category:Swazi political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Egyptian websites :Category:Political websites, :Category:Swazi websites and :Category:Politics of Swaziland

:* Propose merging :Category:Swedish political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Swedish websites, :Category:European political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Sweden

:* Propose merging :Category:Thai political websites‎ (2 P) to :Category:Thai websites, :Category:Asian political websites and :Category:Political mass media in Thailand

:* Propose merging :Category:Tunisian political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Tunisian websites, :Category:Political websites and :Category:Politics of Tunisia

:* Propose merging :Category:Venezuelan political websites‎ (1 P) to :Category:Venezuelan websites, :Category:Political websites and :Category:Politics of Venezuela

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Oculi (talk) 10:38, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:54, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:47, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Could have knocked me over with a feather when I saw that Oculi was supporting a move away from his beloved demonyms. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:16, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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