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== Category:Films based on novels by Ed McBain ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:48, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Films based on novels by Ed McBain to :Category:Films based on novels by Evan Hunter

:Nominator's rationale: C2D (Evan Hunter). Trivialist (talk) 20:00, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:ART Giants Düsseldorf players ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:48, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|ART Giants Düsseldorf players}}

:Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. I tried to expand the category, but I only found two members. The team itself does not currently have an article, and it plays in a second-tier league, so many of its players are not sufficiently notable for an article on Wikipedia. Pichpich (talk) 18:19, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

  • keep - has potential, German wiki has 15 entries. Pelmeen10 (talk) 19:04, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete — German has different notability standards.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:Targets of Gamergate ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:49, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Targets of Gamergate}}

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. We should not categorize people based on being subjected to violence and harassment by internet randos. Zaathras (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Delete Not a defining characteristic. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:23, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Comment, the category has been emptied. E.g. Felicia Day and Brianna Wu were in here. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:27, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Keep We categorize people based on being subjected to violence in particular events (see :Category:Genocide victims and its subcategories such as :Category:People who died in the Armenian genocide and :Category:People who died in the Holocaust), even if these events were/are obviously much greater in scope and intensity of violence than Gamergate. CJ-Moki (talk) 16:39, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :Comparing victims of the Holocaust to those who were harassed by random trolls on the internet is quite beyond the pale. Not even apples and oranges, this is apples and rubber tyres. Also, note to the eventual closing admin, CJ-Moki is the category creator. Zaathras (talk) 16:45, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • ::{{tquote|We should not categorize people based on being subjected to violence and harassment by internet randos}} I think we already do that. CJ-Moki (talk) 16:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :::If you can't discern the difference between a generalized topic and an ephemeral online mob that came and went, then, that's on you. Zaathras (talk) 17:10, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :WP:BLP imposes a higher standard for currently living people. Lizthegrey (talk) 19:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:AVOIDVICTIM. Lizthegrey (talk) 17:37, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Comment The nominator has preemptively emptied this category. Liz Read! Talk! 01:19, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :I felt it was a BLP concern, yes, to label someone a target of a harassment campaign in this manner. Zaathras (talk) 02:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-defining. What's next, Targets of prank phone calls? —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:30, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :WP:SMALLCAT is also relevant, since there are/were only a handful of truly notable Gamergate targets. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-defining. I don't quite understand the appeal to WP:AVOIDVICTIM here, as it doesn't appear to touch on categorization, but I do think that this category does not contain any individuals for whom it is defining. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:10, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :Either it isn't defining in which case, as you point out, there's already policy saying not to add the cat, or it is defining and they're not notable for other things, in which case AVOIDVICTIM applies. It's a two pronged argument you're right I should have spelled out better. Lizthegrey (talk) 15:07, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Comment [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gamergate_(harassment_campaign) Category:Gamergate (harassment campaign)] already exists. So there seems to be no reason to create a new one since this is a generally ambiguous topic. Jennytacular (talk) 18:19, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

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==Category:1st-century BC monarchs in Europe==

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== Category:Works by Mammad Amin Rasulzade ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Works by Mammad Amin Rasulzade to :Category:Works about Azerbaijan

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 12:40, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Merge per nom. It is not a natural merge target, but it happens to fit the only article well. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:30, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom. Pichpich (talk) 18:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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==Category:18th-century presidents of the United States==

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==Category:17th-century monarchs in North America==

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== Category:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to "Russian invasion of Ukraine" (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:57, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Buildings and structures destroyed during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Buildings and structures destroyed during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine by country to :Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine by country

:* Propose renaming :Category:Belarus in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Belarus in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:China and the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Disinformation in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Disinformation in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Events affected by the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Events affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Sports events affected by the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Sports events affected by the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Genocide and the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Genocide and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Grain and the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Grain and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Impacts of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Impacts of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military equipment of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Military equipment of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military operations of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Military operations of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Airstrikes during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Airstrikes during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Deaths by airstrike during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Deaths by airstrike during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Theatres of operation of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Theatres of operation of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military symbols used during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Military symbols used during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military units and formations of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Military units and formations of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Foreign volunteer units resisting the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Foreign volunteer units resisting the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Nuclear power plants and the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Nuclear power plants and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Nuclear weapons and the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Nuclear weapons and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:People of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:People of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:People killed in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:People killed in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Child murder during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Child murder during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Journalists killed while covering the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Journalists killed while covering the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military personnel killed in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Military personnel killed in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Russian military personnel killed in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Russian military personnel killed in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ukrainian military personnel killed in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Ukrainian military personnel killed in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Military personnel of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Military personnel of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Foreign volunteers in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Foreign volunteers in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Russian military personnel of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Russian military personnel of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ukrainian military personnel of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Ukrainian military personnel of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Russian activists against the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Russian activists against the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ukrainian collaborators with Russia during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Ukrainian collaborators with Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine in popular culture to :Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine in popular culture

:* Propose renaming :Category:Internet memes related to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Internet memes related to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Songs about the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Songs about the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Propaganda in Russia related to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Propaganda in Russia related to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Propaganda in Ukraine related to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Propaganda in Ukraine related to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Reactions to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Reactions to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Resistance during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Resistance during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ships involved in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Ships involved in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Shipwrecks of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Shipwrecks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Timelines of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Timelines of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:War crimes during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:War crimes during the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Battles of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Battles of the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:Prelude to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine to :Category:Prelude to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:* Propose renaming :Category:2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine legal issues to :Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine legal issues

:* Propose renaming :Category:United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine (2022–present) to :Category:United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

:Nominator's rationale: Consistency with the parent article, which has been moved to Russian invasion of Ukraine (2022–present). While this is eligible under WP:C2D, I anticipate this request may be controversial, so I am intentionally opening it as a discussion. Elli (talk | contribs) 09:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

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:InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:36, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

::Thanks for finding those; don't know how I missed them initially. I support your modified proposal here. Elli (talk | contribs) 10:56, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Rename all as per RM. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :Also, the nomination has been completed with the 4 missing categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Rename all per RM and InfiniteNexus and LaundryPizza03. It may not be permanent, but it covers the current situation as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. (Struck my earlier !vote.)
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:53, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:Climbing events ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. Category is empty. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Climbing events}} modified 22 Mar

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT — mountaineering charity event. Not really a :Category:Sports competitions by sport, and climbing is currently a parent of mountaineering.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 15:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

:*Why would it?
William Allen Simpson (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

::* {{ping|William Allen Simpson}} because climbing is more specific than mountaineering. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

:::*No, mountaineering is a subcategory of climbing, so mountaineering is more specific than climbing. The root of the inheritance tree is the more general.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

::::* {{ping|William Allen Simpson}} that is odd. Mountaineering contains climbing, skiing and some other sports. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

:::::* {{ping|Marcocapelle}} Climbing is a broad activity {{tq|from the world's tallest mountains (e.g. the eight thousanders) to small boulders.}} Climbing a boulder isn't "mountaineering", it is called "bouldering". But climbing is just one of the many specific things a mountaineer can do. Likewise, Skiing is a broad activity. Skiing over a flat surface isn't "mountaineering", it is cross-country skiing. But alpine skiing is just one of the many specific things a mountaineer can do.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

::::::* {{ping|William Allen Simpson}} then it seems that Climbing should neither be a parent category nor a subcategory of Mountaineering and the article should be moved to both. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

:::::::* OK, Mountaineering now back on the same level as Climbing; there's a hatnote in each to the other. Moved the sole article into both :Category:Climbing and health and :Category:Mountaineering and health. Not a perfect fit, but it isn't really a competition per se.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:11, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

:*The only entry is Climb to Fight Breast Cancer. It is an annual series of mountain climbs.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 22:59, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

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  • Update — the sole article has been recategorized during discussion. (nomination modified)
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:12, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Comment Category has been emptied by nominator. Liz Read! Talk! 01:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:Organizations based in Sakarya Province ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Organizations based in Sakarya Province to :Category:Organizations based in Turkey and :Category:Sakarya Province

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 09:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:Katuns ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Katuns}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 07:51, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Comment by creator - You should proceed with extreme caution - I just checked here and realized that at least five existing articles can be included into this cat, and additional two are linked to other lang-wikies, which means could be eventually trans.ed or created in Eng. Thanks.--౪ Santa ౪99° 08:16, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • :The question, however, is "do these villages have something meaningful in common besides their shared name?" Even if we can show that these were all Katuns in medieval times, does that have any lasting impact today that is precise and significant enough to build a category? Pichpich (talk) 19:02, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • ::These articles on villages are not the most fortunate choice for my argument because they could be few sentences long, but villages are all originating from historical katuns, no doubt about that, how is this described, if at all, within the articles that's the main question. We have even better candidates in quite a number of articles which could closer correspond to historicity, which should in reality be our defining characteristic, and these are articles on certain tribes from Montenegro, Old Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Herzegovina - these tribe-articles are all history articles on mostly Vlach katun-tribes. They would make real candidates; however, I had no time to go through and check how they describe this connection - I wouldn't be surprised if some could be immediately categorized as Category:Katuns based on prose and sources. If any one ever gets into this with more time and interest, we could be needing this category, if not right away then as soon as connection is established in prose. ౪ Santa ౪99° 03:30, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic of the villages mentioned on the dab page. We do not categorize based on name alone. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Delete — no need to categorize proto-villages by type of social organization. An well annotates list is sufficient.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 02:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:Gaelic rulers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Gaelic rulers}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (2 subcats 0 items), and entirely redundant because its parent :Category:Gaels already has both its subcats, :Category:Celtic rulers is already being CfD'd, and :Category:Irish kings is a wrong parent because it can't be a parent to :Category:Gaelic monarchs in Scotland. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:19, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:Briton rulers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Briton rulers to :Category:Briton monarchs

:Nominator's rationale: All people in this category are identified as "kings", "queens", or "chieftains". Perhaps Epaticcus should be excluded because he was a brother of a king, and perhaps a governor or deputy, but that's not a "ruler" or "monarch". Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:13, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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== Category:Sogdian rulers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Sogdian rulers to :Category:Sogdian monarchs

:Nominator's rationale: All people in the category are identified as "kings", "princes", "emirs" or "chiefs". Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 00:06, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

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