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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 14:06, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Poles - political prisoners in the Prussian partition to :Category:Polish political prisoners in the Prussian partition

:Nominator's rationale: I don't know what to name this, but the current name isn't a good one. I'm also open deleting/merging it Mason (talk) 22:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Poles - political prisoners in the Russian partition to :Category:Polish political prisoners in the Russian partition

:Nominator's rationale: I don't know what to name this, but the current name isn't a good one Mason (talk) 12:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

• Rename. I can't fathom why you'd consider deleting or merging this, but renaming seems fine. If renamed, we should also do this with :Category:Poles - political prisoners in the Russian partition. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:38, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Comment. added other category with novel naming structure.Mason (talk) 23:53, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: alt merge (reverse merge, merge Fooish expatriates in Prussia). (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 14:09, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Expatriates in the Kingdom of Prussia to :Category:Expatriates in Prussia

:Nominator's rationale: Overlapping cat Mason (talk) 22:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Merge but keep the more clear "Kingdom of" version. And while we are at it, consider upmerging :Category:British expatriates in Prussia (1P) and :Category:French expatriates in Prussia (3P) per SMALLCAT. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
• :Support this alternative proposal. Mason (talk) 19:52, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Purge marine fish articles to :Category:Marine fish of Northern Australia, since that is an appropriate target while it exists. If it should not exist then it can be nominated separately. – Fayenatic London 16:08, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Fauna of Queensland to :Category:Marine fish of Queensland

:Nominator's rationale: all entries are marine fish (except a very small amount, that will be shifted back to a new parent cat.) --Couiros22 (talk) 19:01, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

• Purge, marine fish should be categorized by sea instead of by state. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
• : ...it would be a useful subcategory to :Category:Marine fish of Northern Australia though --Couiros22 (talk) 20:03, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
• :* That one should be merged/split to :Category:Fish of the Indian Ocean and :Category:Fish of the Pacific Ocean. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

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• The category page was not tagged yet. I have done that now. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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• Why rename? Just create a subcat and move appropriate content.Maias (talk) 23:29, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 13:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Baltic-language surnames to :Category:Names by language, :Category:Surnames by language, and :Category:Surnames of European origin

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Baltic-language names}}

:Nominator's rationale: Two WP:NONDEFINING redundant layers. "Baltic" has zero navigational value in this tree. NLeeuw (talk) 23:44, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

• Merge/delete per nom, but add a "See also" note in the pages of the two subcategories. Note that the two subcategories remain in the tree of :Category:Baltic languages anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
• Merge/delete as suggested keep but containerize or delete and reclassify content Baltic languages constitute a small set including Latvian and Lithuanian. Contents shouldn't be classed to Baltic- as it's a grouping name and not a valid language name.--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:05, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
• :Containerize what? It's all categories already. Also, what merge targets do you suggest? Qwerfjkltalk 19:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
• :@Ceyockey. Qwerfjkltalk 19:21, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
• ::@Qwerfkl - changing my !vote to move this to completion. The suggestion is OK and I kind of over-complicated things with alternatives. I'm not 100% sure what I meant, actually -- scratching my head as the Baltic cat is already a container (no articles in the cat level). --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting

:*: {{lc|Maxillopoda}}

:*: {{lc|Maxillopoda genera}}

:*: {{lc|Maxillopoda stubs}}

:Nominator's rationale: Maxillopoda was WP:BLARred last year.

{{tqb

| text = change to redirect. taxon no longer accepted.

| by = Loopy30

| ts = 21:52, 10 December 2022‎ (UTC)

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:So what's the taxonomic status of Maxillopoda? Even if it was declared a synonym or invalid or whatnot, we shouldn't leap onto the new classification until it gains more scientific consensus. Wikipedia doesn't need to have front-line updated classification. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 12:42, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

::I was pinged about this deletion because many years ago I created this category. I don't remember why exactly did I do it, but it was most likely for some technical reason. I wrote "iw" in edit summary then, by which I mean "interwiki", or more precisely, interlanguage links. I don't know anything about Biology, so I can't comment on the scientific validity of this name. If there are scientific reasons to delete it, so be it. I do hope, however, that if it is deleted, people who encounter this category in Wikipedia in other languages will have a useful interlanguage link. Perhaps it should be deleted in other languages, too. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 13:46, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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• If not kept, Merge to :Category:Crustaceans/:Category:Crustacean genera/:Category:Crustacean stubs rather than deleting. A merge does seem reasonable if the nominator's argument is true, but I haven't investigated more closely. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:21, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 13:03, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Sculptors from the British Empire}}

:Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 21:20, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 13:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Photographers from the British Empire}}

:Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 21:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 13:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Architects from the British Empire}}

:Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 21:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:12, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge. – Fayenatic London 13:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Medical doctors in British India to :Category:Medical doctors from British India

:Nominator's rationale: overlapping cat Mason (talk) 21:06, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:33, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Explorers from the British Empire to :Category:British explorers

:Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 20:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete, most are Australians. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:19, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete, they are now all otherwise categorised as explorers. – Fayenatic London 13:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. RedBlueGreen93 22:06, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Vancouver Whitecaps matches to :Category:Vancouver Whitecaps FC matches

:Nominator's rationale: Only one match is listed here, and only one match will ever be listed here as this Whitecaps incarnation is defunct. In my opinion, it would make much more sense to categorize the matches of all the Vancouver Whitecaps iterations. RedBlueGreen93 17:11, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 17:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom
• Merge as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:03, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. I note that the nominator has added the other members to :Category:328 establishments. – Fayenatic London 13:12, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|328 works}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete and move Namara inscription to :Category:328, isolated works by year category. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:English pirates. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:34, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Pirates from the Kingdom of England}}

:Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 04:05, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• If not kept, merge to :Category:English pirates. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:41, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster^talk 17:02, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Poets from the Kingdom of England}}

:Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 04:05, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete as empty, I have diffused the content of the category to the already existing :Category:16th-century English poets and :Category:17th-century English poets. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:37, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
• Comment Yes, another empty category. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
• Comment: it is no longer empty as I have put the English poets categories by century into it. The disadvantage of these nominations is that they would leave only one way to navigate :Category:People of the Kingdom of England (being renamed to :Category:People from the Kingdom of England), namely by century rather than by occupation. – Fayenatic London 13:24, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete Category contents are currently redundant to :Category:English poets by century. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:36, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:English sailors. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:35, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Sailors from the Kingdom of England}}

:Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 04:05, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• If not kept, merge to :Category:English sailors. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
• Merge to {{clc|English sailors}}. Edward-Woodrow • talk 21:40, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:38, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Medical doctors from the Kingdom of England}}

:Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 04:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom: already covered at {{clc|English medical doctors}}. Edward-Woodrow • talk 21:41, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:38, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Muhammad Ilyas Kandhlawi}}

:Nominator's rationale: I don't believe we need a category devoted to this historic Islamic scholar. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:24, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:OCEPON. If kept, move to Ilyas Kandhlawi per article title. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: speedily deleted per criterion G5. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:38, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose speedy deleting {{lc|Republicanism in Asia}}

:Nominator's rationale: Created by banned sock (and filled in a weird way). - Altenmann >talk 01:16, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete, a very weird way indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
• Speedy delete - creation of a sockpuppet. ^user:A smart kitten_meow 16:08, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
• :Emptied cat, tagged with G5. All additions to cat that I’m aware of were made by the sock. ^user:A smart kitten_meow 19:21, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:40, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People of Russian America to :Category:People from Russian America

:Nominator's rationale: overlap cat Mason (talk) 00:54, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

: Agree Hugo999 (talk) 23:20, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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