Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 12

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:38, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by political parties to :Category:Speeches by politicians

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by African National Congress to :Category:Speeches by African National Congress politicians

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by Communist Party of the Soviet Union to :Category:Speeches by Soviet politicians

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by Conservative Party (UK) to :Category:Speeches by Conservative Party (UK) politicians

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by Democratic Party (United States) to :Category:Speeches by Democratic Party (United States) politicians

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by Fatah to :Category:Speeches by Fatah politicians

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by National Party (South Africa) to :Category:Speeches by National Party (South Africa) politicians

:* Propose renaming :Category:Speeches by Republican Party (United States) to :Category:Speeches by Republican Party (United States) politicians

:Nominator's rationale: rename, speeches are delivered by people, not by parties. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 02:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment :Category:Speeches by Fatah and :Category:Speeches by African National Congress are empty. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:42, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge to :Category:Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Convocations of the Mazhilis to :Category:Convocations of the Mäjilis

:Nominator's rationale: Mazhilis redirects to Mäjilis Gjs238 (talk) 15:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

• Merge both to :Category:Parliament of Kazakhstan per article titles e.g. 3rd Parliament of Kazakhstan. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:21, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
• Better yet, merge both to :Category:Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan Gjs238 (talk) 16:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 18:06, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

• Merge all three to :Category:Parliament of Kazakhstan. We do not need "convocations" in the category title if it is not in the article titles. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
• Merge anyway, preferably to :Category:Convocations of the Mäjilis. {{Cl|Legislatures by legislative term of office}} is a standard and useful way to sort articles about successive legislative terms of the same parliament. These articles should remain in that category. However intermediate category {{Cl|Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan}} is useless. Context: in most bicameral systems, legislative terms are numbered with the renewals of the lower house (in Kazakhstan, the Mäjilis), as elections to the upper house do not coincide (as is the case in Kazakhstan). Child {{Cl|7th Mäjilis of the Parliament of Kazakhstan}} (1P) is equally useless. I therefore suggest to add:
• Propose merging {{Cl|Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan}} to {{Cl|Legislatures by legislative term of office}} and {{Cl|Parliament of Kazakhstan}} (added 29 January)
• Propose merging {{Cl|7th Mäjilis of the Parliament of Kazakhstan}} to {{Cl|Convocations of the Mäjilis}} (added 29 January)

: {{Re|Gjs238|Marcocapelle}} ping for opinion. Place Clichy (talk) 13:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge all three to :Category:Parliament of Kazakhstan per Marocapelle. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:50, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
• : {{Re|Aidan721|Marcocapelle}} what would be your rationale for removing these 8 articles from {{Cl|Legislatures by legislative term of office}}? Would an alternative title better work for you, e.g. {{Cl|Terms of the Parliament of Kazakhstan}} / {{Cl|Terms of the Mäjilis}}? Place Clichy (talk) 19:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• :* I notice that the category tree has been improved quite a bit since we started this discussion. Under the new circumstances, I am all for merging to :Category:Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
• :** Agree Gjs238 (talk) 14:54, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• :** That seems fine to me. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
• :** Then I agree as well to merge all 3 categories (1, 2, {{Cl|7th Mäjilis of the Parliament of Kazakhstan|3}}) to :Category:Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan. Place Clichy (talk) 00:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: :Category:Convocations of the Mäjilis was not tagged, so I am relisting this (for the third time...). As it currently stands, if there is no further participation, consensus seems to be in favor of merging :Category:7th Mäjilis of the Parliament of Kazakhstan, :Category:Convocations of the Mäjilis, and :Category:Convocations of the Mazhilis to :Category:Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:07, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge :Category:Convocations of the Mazhilis, :Category:Convocations of the Mäjilis, and :Category:7th Mäjilis of the Parliament of Kazakhstan to :Category:Convocations of the Parliament of Kazakhstan as agreed to above. Gjs238 (talk) 18:32, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:2110s in film with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:43, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:2115 films to :Category:2110s in film

:Nominator's rationale: This will probably have only one entry for around 80 years. The sole member is already in :Category:Upcoming films. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Strong Keep, have been watching this for years. Yes, one entry, but more importantly, this is a legitimate category for "films released". Not broken, not irregular, but a category which fits in with all the other yearly categories. Several years in the 1870s and 1880s contain one film apiece, as does 1893. Are we going to get rid of those too? No, because keeping films separated by years fulfills the mission of the films-per-year category concept. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• :Merge per nom. Mason (talk) 02:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Another point, taking the Wikipedia logo into consideration, its concept of an open-ended ongoing continued collaboration communicates outright that the encyclopedia will never be completed (the symbolism purposely portrayed as the missing piece of the open globe). Other single-year film categories exist (some categories 1874 to 1887, and 1893, include only one film per year). Are the "merge" people saying that Wikipedia won't be around in 2115? Either it will be or it won't be, but, per the "Wikipedia will never be completed" part of its vision and mission, we have to assume, in good faith, that it will, and that we are building an encyclopedia for the readers of 2115. From that perspective this is an easy keep. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Not saying that Wikipedia won't be around in 2115. But it will only be helpful for easy navigation between films articles when we create the category a year in advance, like currently :Category:2025 films. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge Per nom, it's unlikely to get any larger than one film for... well, as long as it will matter for most people. Merging doesn't imply there will be no future, just that a category is unnecessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
• Please note Wikipedia:Potential, not just current state which is relevant to the nom's and "merge" reasoning. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:43, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|University of South Florida olympians}}

:Nominator's rationale: A non-defining intersection. User:Namiba 20:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• :Support in principle, but lets make sure that everyone is in University of South Florida alumni. Mason (talk) 02:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

:::I can confirm that all articles are in an appropriate subcategory.--User:Namiba 15:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: triple merge to :Category:Belarusian-American culture, :Category:Non-English-language newspapers published in the United States, and :Category:Belarusian-language newspapers. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Belarusian-language newspapers published in the United States to :Category:Belarusian-language newspapers

:Nominator's rationale: Single page in category. Its parent category, {{cl|Belarusian-language mass media in the United States}}, also only contains this category. Upmerge both into {{cl|Belarusian-American culture}} and {{cl|Non-English-language newspapers published in the United States}} toobigtokale (talk) 19:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Triple merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Triple merge per nom as category creator. Note that :Category:Belarusian-language mass media in the United States is not tagged but will be empty once this merge occurs.--User:Namiba 15:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to "buildings and structures" tree. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

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:Nominator's rationale: The question of the usefulness of this category tree was first brought up at this discussion. I'm not sure that cultural infrastructure is a useful category for the establishments/completed in tree. There is no :Category:Cultural infrastucture or Cultural infrastructure. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge all to the buildings and structures category of the same year. While "cultural infrastructure" is an existing term, it is not a defining characteristic of museums, theathres etc. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Merge all to the buildings and structures category of the same year. I expected to iVote "keep" since I use these a lot but, without a Cultural infrastructure main article, there's no clear scope and it becomes WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 17:50, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• :@Marcocapelle, @RevelationDirect, I assume the same goes for the decades and century categories, and :Category:Cultural infrastructure by year of completion, :Category:Cultural infrastructure by decade of completion, and :Category:Cultural infrastructure by century of completion. Qwerfjkltalk 17:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
• ::{{ping|Qwerfjkl}} Yes, the decades and century should follow suit as Marcocapelle and RevelationDirect alternatively suggested. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:14, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
• :::Agreed. RevelationDirect (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Museums disestablished in 1662}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Museums disestablished in the 1660s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Museums disestablished in the 17th century}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Educational organizations disestablished in 1662}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Educational organizations disestablished in the 1660s}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Educational organizations disestablished in the 17th century}}

:Nominator's rationale: This group is isolated after C16 and C18 museum disestablishments were deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 30#Category:Art museums and galleries disestablished in 1552. Only contains 1 article, Musaeum Tradescantianum. – Fayenatic London 09:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete all per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:51, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• :Or technically merge to :Category:Organizations disestablished in 1662. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Delete, or possibly merge (but it wasn't really an organisation) per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: procedural keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|1980s Indian superhero films}}

:Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated. All content transferred to the categories "Indian superhero films" and"1980s superhero films". Kailash29792 (talk) 08:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Procedural oppose. There is no reason to pick out the 1980s or 2000s from the tree. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:34, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. And I also think there is good chance for more articles to be made to fit into the underpopulated categories.★Trekker (talk) 15:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: procedural keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|2000s Indian superhero films}}

:Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated. All content transferred to categories "Indian superhero films" and "2000s superhero films". Kailash29792 (talk) 08:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Procedural oppose. There is no reason to pick out the 1980s or 2000s from the tree. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:34, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Content comes before categories. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Free and open-source software organizations based in EU to :Category:Free and open-source software organizations

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Organizations based in EU}}

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no need to difussion by the intersection of EU and type of organization. (I've only selected one merge target because this is the only category in Organizations based in EU, which doesn't help navigation) Mason (talk) 03:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. There is no :Category:Organisations based in EU either. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Leave as is

:Rationale of this category is that not many FLOSS projects have registered NGO in EU, but this is to be changing as EU has started actively supporting development of software that is alternative to big corporate US developers as an attempt in creating less dependence and more sustainable autonomy and especially so in FLOSS. There is more funding then before and policies are adapting to favor such tech. --Zblace (talk) 06:24, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Illinois Cycling Club football seasons}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only one page. Let'srun (talk) 00:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Winona State Warriors football seasons to :Category:Winona State Warriors football

:Nominator's rationale: Only one redirect. Not a useful layer for navigation. Let'srun (talk) 00:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Fiction about rivalry. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fictional rivalries}}

:Nominator's rationale: This doesn't contain any articles specifically about fictional rivalries, only works that contain rivalries. Another possibility is renaming it :Category:Fiction about rivalry, but I'm not certain something like that is necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

::Rename to :Category:Fiction about rivalry. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

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