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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:47, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:Propose renaming :Category:Fictional parasite characters to :Category:Fictional parasites

:Nominator's rationale: Adding "characters" at the end is just unnecessary, plus I don't see why this should be restricted to (individual) characters that are parasites, rather than making it inclusive of any and all parasitic creatures and organisms in fiction, including species of parasites. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose, this is a valid subcategory of :Category:Fictional characters by species. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
• :{{ping|Marcocapelle}} Are you really sure that's a reason why the name should stay the same? It could always be changed to :Category:Fictional species and races, but that's not really relevant to the name itself. Besides, "parasites" is shorter and quicker to type. AHI-3000 (talk) 09:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
• :* Yes, characters are categorized as such. If you are against that, you might nominate the whole tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:52, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
• :*:{{ping|Marcocapelle}} I'm not nominating irrelevant categories, this is only about the "Fictional parasites" category for the sake of one simple name change. AHI-3000 (talk) 22:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

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• Oppose Clear consensus exists that it should include "characters" from a discussion just earlier this month. Please abide by consensus rather than ignoring it and making new discussions just because you disagree. Unless there's an obvious thing that was missed by the previous discussion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:30, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge to :Category:History of medical and surgical specialties and :Category:Cardiology. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:History of cardiology to :Category:History of medical and surgical specialties

:Nominator's rationale: Only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 23:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Dual merge, also to :Category:Cardiology. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:History of hematology to :Category:Hematology

:Nominator's rationale: Only page in here is not about the history of hematology. Mason (talk) 23:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:00, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Deaths from blood clot to :Category:Deaths from thrombosis

:Nominator's rationale: These categories are the same thing. I've selected the younger category to be merged into the older category Mason (talk) 23:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Dimadick (talk) 12:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Eastern Catholic religious leaders to :Category:Eastern Catholic religious workers

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. Clearly redundant. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Clergy of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine to :Category:Orthodox Church of Ukraine

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:37, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. Clearly redundant. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:17th-century Dutch emigrants to North America to :Category:Families of Dutch ancestry

:Nominator's rationale: The contents of this category are families of dutch descent who happened to emigrate in the 17th century. The people in here aren't 17th-century dutch people Mason (talk) 21:45, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename as in the updated nomination. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Poland–Republic of Venice relations to :Category:Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth–Republic of Venice relations

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ambassadors of the Republic of Venice to Poland to :Category:Ambassadors of the Republic of Venice to the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

:Nominator's rationale: Per actual polity concerned here: the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. Constantine ✍ 19:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle, but for the first category I would not change the format so I would prefer :Category:Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth–Republic of Venice relations, also for brevity. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Government of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to :Category:Government of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

:Nominator's rationale: endash per main article and main category Constantine ✍ 19:06, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Rename, this could have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:06, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ambassadors of the Republic of Venice to Austria to :Category:Ambassadors of the Republic of Venice to the Habsburg monarchy

:Nominator's rationale: Though popularly called 'Austria', the polity involved here is not the Republic of Austria, or even the Austrian Empire before it, but the Habsburg monarchy. Constantine ✍ 18:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

:* I'd like to point out that if this renaming goes through (I don't object to it), we are going to need a new set of subcategories within the :Category:Habsburg monarchy subtree such as :Category:Ambassadors to the Habsburg monarchy and :Category:Habsburg monarchy–Republic of Venice relations. Pichpich (talk) 19:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support, note that Bohemia as a kingdom was higher ranked than Austria and the court of the Habsburg Monarchy has been in Prague for some time. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Clarion Golden Eagles football seasons to :Category:Clarion Golden Eagles football

:Nominator's rationale: Lack of members in category. Let'srun (talk) 18:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge, it only contains a redirect, that is not helpful for navigation at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Voluntary childlessness and purge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Childfree}}

:Nominator's rationale: I don't think the number of children people do or do not have is a WP:DEFINING characteristic. We don't have categories such as {{cl|People with children}}, so we shouldn't have this one. --woodensuperman 15:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. If kept, purge all people from this category. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• Purge and rename to :Category:Voluntary childlessness per article title Voluntary childlessness. There are four non-biographical articles that can stay in the category. Alternatively delete the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. This is a cultural subgroup or a lifestyle choice with its own Wikipedia article. Nerd271 (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• :Purge and rename per marco Mason (talk) 21:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• :Purge and rename per Marcocapelle's suggestion. Dimadick (talk) 12:33, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
• :Purge and rename per Marcocapelle. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 15:52, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Jesuit primary schools in Belgium}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Europe and :Category:Primary schools in Belgium

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Jesuit primary schools in Argentina}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in South America, :Category:Catholic schools in Argentina, and :Category:Elementary and primary schools in Argentina

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Jesuit secondary schools in Argentina}} to :Category:Jesuit secondary schools in South America, :Category:Catholic schools in Argentina, and :Category:Secondary schools in Argentina

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Jesuit schools in Argentina}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Catholic primary schools in Argentina}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Catholic secondary schools in Argentina}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Jesuit secondary schools in Nepal}} to :Category:Jesuit secondary schools in Asia, :Category:Jesuit schools in Nepal, and :Category:Secondary schools in Nepal

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Nepal}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Asia, :Category:Jesuit schools in Nepal, and :Category:Elementary and primary schools in Nepal

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Catholic secondary schools in Nepal}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Catholic elementary and primary schools in Nepal}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit primary school in the Democratic Republic of the Congo}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Africa, :Category:Elementary and primary schools in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and :Category:Catholic Church in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit secondary schools in the Democratic Republic of the Congo}} to :Category:Jesuit secondary schools in Africa, :Category:High schools and secondary schools in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and :Category:Catholic Church in the Democratic Republic of the Congo

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jesuit schools in the Democratic Republic of the Congo}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catholic schools in the Democratic Republic of the Congo}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit primary schools in Lebanon}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Asia and :Category:Catholic schools in Lebanon

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit secondary schools in Lebanon}} to :Category:Jesuit secondary schools in Asia and :Category:Catholic schools in Lebanon

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jesuit schools in Lebanon}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catholic primary schools in Lebanon}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catholic secondary schools in Lebanon}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit primary schools in Lithuania}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Europe and :Category:Elementary and primary schools in Lithuania

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catholic primary schools in Lithuania}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit primary schools in Panama}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in North America, :Category:Catholicism in Panama, :Category:Catholic schools in Central America, and :Category:Schools in Panama

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit secondary schools in Panama}} to :Category:Jesuit high schools and secondary schools in North America, :Category:Catholicism in Panama, :Category:Catholic schools in Central America, and :Category:Schools in Panama

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jesuit schools in Panama}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catholic schools in Panama}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit primary schools in Portugal}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Europe, :Category:Elementary schools in Portugal, and :Category:Catholic schools in Portugal

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit secondary schools in Portugal}} to :Category:Jesuit secondary schools in Europe and :Category:Catholic secondary schools in Portugal

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jesuit schools in Portugal}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catholic elementary and primary schools in Portugal}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit primary schools in Rwanda}} to :Category:Jesuit elementary and primary schools in Africa, :Category:Elementary and primary schools in Rwanda, and :Category:Catholic schools in Rwanda

:* Propose merging {{lc|Jesuit secondary schools in Rwanda}} to :Category:Jesuit secondary schools in Africa and :Category:Catholic secondary schools in Rwanda

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Jesuit schools in Rwanda}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Catholic elementary and primary schools in Rwanda}}

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:NARROWCAT. Impedes category navigation. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:04, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Non-profit hospitals in Ghana}}

:Nominator's rationale: Hospitals not categorized this way (non-profit) Gjs238 (talk) 14:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• :{{yo|Marcocapelle}} do you have a merge target in mind? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
• :* {{ping|HouseBlaster}} I had :Category:Hospitals in Ghana in mind but the article is already in it, so the category can just be deleted. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. No merging is needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Swedish cruiser classes}}

:Nominator's rationale: :Category:Cruiser classes not categorized by nationality/country Gjs238 (talk) 14:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fictional Pacific Islander American people}}

:Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with one subcategory and one article. There is no need to merge, the subcategory is already in :Category:Fictional American people by ethnicity and :Category:Fictional Polynesian people. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:00, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 19:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Works about Middle-earth to :Category:Middle-earth and :Category:Tolkien studies

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:45, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support There's no apparent proof of other works "about" it that aren't based on it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Eastern Catholic religious workers in the United Kingdom to :Category:Catholic religious workers in the United Kingdom and :Category:Eastern Catholicism in the United Kingdom

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:41, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge Unclear how many of the people in this cat were actually working in the UK. Looks like most of the people just held a title and any work done was done remote. The Banner talk 13:34, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Christian religious leaders by country of work to :Category:Christian religious workers by country of work

:Nominator's rationale: Only contains one sub-cat after Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 15#Christian clergy in Belgium. The sub-cat is already within the other parents via other routes. – Fayenatic London 11:04, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Tolkien studies to :Category:Tolkien studies and :Category:Tolkien scholars

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COPSEP we should not have biographical and non-biographical articles in the same category. Alternatively, category could be purged of biographical articles per WP:OCASSOC. --woodensuperman 09:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Split per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• Split per nom. Valid subcategory. Dimadick (talk) 12:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Arab diaspora in the United States to :Category:Middle Eastern diaspora in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: merge, the content of this category is not only about ethnic Arabs but also about all sorts of other ethnic groups in the Middle East, to such an extent does it almost resembles the Middle East category. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Another category that mixes ethnicity with geography in an erroneous way. Place Clichy (talk) 19:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Things named after Shakespearean works}}

:Nominator's rationale: Clear case of WP:SHAREDNAME. See also concurrent discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 February 22#Category:Things named after Tolkien works. --woodensuperman 09:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Speeches by Fatah politicians to :Category:Speeches by politicians and :Category:Works by Palestinian people

:Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category, is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:52, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 21:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Speeches by Soviet politicians to :Category:Works by Soviet people

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 21:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Works by Demosthenes to :Category:Speeches by Demosthenes

:Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with :Category:Speeches by orator. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:48, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 21:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

:Support per nom Dimadick (talk) 12:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Intellectual works to :Category:Creative works

:Nominator's rationale: merge, too closely related topics, with the same main article Creative work. Keep a redirect though. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 21:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

:Support per nom. Dimadick (talk) 12:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting :Category:Business groups

:* Propose deleting :Category:Corporate groups

:* Propose deleting :Category:Investment banking private equity groups

:Nominator's rationale: delete, "group" is an indiscriminate characteristic for companies. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Restaurant groups in Canada to :Category:Restaurant chains in Canada

:* Propose merging :Category:Restaurant groups in Denmark to :Category:Restaurant chains in Denmark

:* Propose merging :Category:Restaurant groups in Mexico to :Category:Restaurant chains in Mexico

:* Propose merging :Category:Restaurant groups in the United Kingdom to :Category:Restaurant chains in the United Kingdom

:* Propose merging :Category:Restaurant groups in the United States to :Category:Restaurant chains in the United States

:Nominator's rationale: merge, not a clear enough difference. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Vague distinction. Dimadick (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Painters who died by suicide to :Category:Artists who died by suicide

:* Propose merging :Category:Sculptors who died by suicide to :Category:Artists who died by suicide

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between medium of artist and cause of death. If diffusion is needed, we can diffuse by nationality, (e.g., :Category: Politicians who died by suicide by nationality‎) Mason (talk) 05:12, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:32, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 21:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:California genocide perpetrators to :Category:Perpetrators of the California genocide

:Nominator's rationale: The current name could be misread / misinterpreted as Genocide perpetrators from California Mason (talk) 04:30, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support a less ambiguous name. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|User tb}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|User tb-N}}

: Nominator's rationale: "tb" is not a valid language code. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:02, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. VegaDark (talk) 05:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Anglican monasteries in Australia to :Category:Anglican monasteries and :Category:Christian monasteries in Australia

:* Propose merging :Category:Russian Orthodox monasteries in France to :Category:Russian Orthodox monasteries and :Category:Eastern Orthodox monasteries in France

:* Propose merging :Category:Eastern Orthodox monasteries in Belarus to :Category:Eastern Orthodox monasteries in Europe, :Category:Christian monasteries in Belarus, and :Category:Eastern Orthodoxy in Belarus

:* Propose merging :Category:Eastern Catholic monasteries in Romania to :Category:Eastern Catholic monasteries in Europe, :Category:Romanian Greek Catholic Church, :Category:Christian monasteries in Romania, and :Category:Greek Catholic monasteries

:* Propose merging :Category:Lutheran monasteries in Finland to :Category:Christian monasteries in Finland, :Category:Lutheran monasteries, and :Category:Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland

:* Propose merging :Category:Lutheran monasteries in Sweden to :Category:Lutheran monasteries and :Category:Lutheranism in Sweden

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:NARROWCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge for now without objection to recreate any of these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:11, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Lutheran cathedrals in Greenland}} to :Category:Lutheran cathedrals, :Category:Cathedrals in Greenland, and :Category:Churches in the Diocese of Greenland

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Lutheran cathedrals in North America}}

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge per WP:NARROWCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:27, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals in Israel}} to :Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals and :Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Asia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals in the State of Palestine}} to :Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals and :Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Asia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals in Russia}} to :Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals, :Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Russia, and :Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Europe

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals in Ukraine}} to :Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals, :Category:Armenian Apostolic churches in Ukraine, and :Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Europe

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals in Uruguay}} to :Category:Armenian Apostolic cathedrals, :Category:Cathedrals in Uruguay, :Category:Armenian churches in Uruguay, and :Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in South America

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Eritrea}} to :Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Africa, :Category:Eritrean Orthodox church buildings

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Israel}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in the State of Palestine}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Russia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Ukraine}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Oriental Orthodox cathedrals in Uruguay}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. An unnecessarily thin tree that worsens category navigation. Upmerge/delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Link to related discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_7#Category:Roman_Catholic_cathedrals_by_country (consensus: merge/delete) –Aidan721 (talk) 03:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging :Category:Roman Catholic church buildings in Îles des Saintes to :Category:Buildings and structures in Îles des Saintes and :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Guadeloupe

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Upmerge. –Aidan721 (talk) 03:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Bermuda}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in North America, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Bermuda, :Category:Cathedrals in Bermuda, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in British Overseas Territories

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Gibraltar}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Europe, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Gibraltar, :Category:Cathedrals in Gibraltar, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in British Overseas Territories

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in French Guiana}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in South America, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in French Guiana, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Overseas France

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Guadeloupe}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in the Caribbean, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Guadeloupe, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Overseas France

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in New Caledonia}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Oceania, :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Oceania, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in New Caledonia, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Overseas France

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Réunion}} to :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Réunion, :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Africa, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Overseas France

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in North America, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Saint Pierre and Miquelon, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Overseas France

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Wallis and Futuna}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Oceania, :Category:Catholic Church in Wallis and Futuna, :Category:Churches in Wallis and Futuna, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Overseas France

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Guam}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Oceania, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Guam, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in insular areas of the United States

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in the Northern Mariana Islands}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Oceania, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in the Northern Mariana Islands, and :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in insular areas of the United States

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in the United States Virgin Islands}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in the Caribbean, :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in insular areas of the United States, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in the United States Virgin Islands, and :Category:Cathedrals in the United States Virgin Islands

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Greenland}} to :Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in North America, :Category:Roman Catholic churches in Greenland, and :Category:Cathedrals in Greenland

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in French Guiana}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in Guadeloupe}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in New Caledonia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in Réunion}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in Saint Pierre and Miquelon}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Roman Catholic churches in Wallis and Futuna}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in Wallis and Futuna}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in Guam}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in the Northern Mariana Islands}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. An unnecessarily thin tree that worsens category navigation. Upmerge/delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:52, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Link to related discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_7#Category:Roman_Catholic_cathedrals_by_country (consensus: merge/delete) –Aidan721 (talk) 02:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

:Propose renaming:

:* :Category:Zombies and revenants in popular culture to :Category:Zombies in popular culture

:** :Category:Fictional zombies and revenants to :Category:Fictional zombies

:*** :Category:Zombie and revenant characters in video games to :Category:Zombie characters in video games

:** :Category:Short stories about zombies and revenants to :Category:Short stories about zombies

:Nominator's rationale: For some reason, the last time I nominated these categories, the discussion went nowhere without a clear consensus. I still think that these current names are unnecessarily long, so let's make them shorter and more concise; I do not think that the addition of "and revenants" in these category titles are strictly necessary. AHI-3000 (talk) 04:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

• The issue was - and presumably still is - that too many articles in these categories aren't about zombies per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• :{{ping|Marcocapelle}} If you believe that there's any non-zombie characters that are erroneously listed here, then put them under :Category:Fictional undead instead. AHI-3000 (talk) 07:09, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• :* Articles about revenants who are not zombies are not currently erroneously listed here. I guess it will be easier to reach consensus for splitting to revenants and zombies. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:58, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• :*:{{ping|Marcocapelle}} I'm fine with a split to make separate categories for zombies and revenants each, but can you identify any specific articles which are actually about revenants or other undead instead of zombies? AHI-3000 (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• :*:* That is a fair question and appears to be a very justified question too. I really thought I had checked this in the previous discussion and had seen revenants in here but my memory has deceived me. Revenants appear in :Category:Corporeal undead and in :Category:Revenants but not here. Hence support nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:32, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
• Very easy. In the short story category (which I created), Cool Air (1928) is about an undead doctor who has interaction with others 18 years after his natural death. The Death of Halpin Frayser (1891) is about a man strangulated by the revenant version of his own mother. Herbert West–Reanimator (1922) is about Frankenstein-style reanimated corpses and only Wikipedia uses the term "zombies" for them. Dimadick (talk) 07:19, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping|Dimadick|AHI-3000}} if there are many more of these examples I am withdrawing what I said before. However, if these are just incidents then they may well be moved to :Category:Corporeal undead to join other revenants. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
• Procedural comments, none of the category pages have been tagged. Also it does not look like the contributors to the previous discussion have received a courtesy ping. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:31, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: I have tagged the categories.
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Relisting comment: Split or rename?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• {{ping|AHI-3000|Dimadick}} a further reaction from each of you may be helpful. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• :@Marcocapelle: I favor renaming. If there's anything that doesn't fit well in :Category:Zombies in popular culture or :Category:Fictional zombies, then move them over to :Category:Undead in popular culture or :Category:Fictional undead. AHI-3000 (talk) 07:24, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• I think renaming while moving some articles to a more appropriate category per AHI-3000 makes the most sense. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 19:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
• Support Never made sense to me to have them categorized like this.★Trekker (talk) 14:02, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Armenia}} to :Category:Cathedrals in Armenia, :Category:Catholic church buildings in Armenia, and :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Asia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Bulgaria}} to :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Europe and :Category:Catholic cathedrals in Bulgaria

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Colombia}} to :Category:Catholic cathedrals in Colombia, :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in South America, and :Category:Eastern Catholicism in Colombia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Cyprus}} to :Category:Cathedrals in Cyprus and :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Asia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in the Czech Republic}} to :Category:Catholic cathedrals in the Czech Republic and :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Europe

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Germany}} to :Category:Catholic cathedrals in Germany, :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Europe, and :Category:Eastern Catholicism in Germany

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Jordan}} to :Category:Cathedrals in Jordan, :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Asia, and :Category:Catholic church buildings in Jordan

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Nigeria}} to :Category:Catholic cathedrals in Nigeria and :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Africa

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in North Macedonia}} to :Category:Catholic cathedrals in North Macedonia, :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Europe, and :Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in North Macedonia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Serbia}} to :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Europe and :Category:Catholic cathedrals in Serbia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Uruguay}} to :Category:Catholic cathedrals in Uruguay, :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in South America, and :Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Uruguay

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Catholic cathedrals in Armenia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Armenia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Armenian Catholic churches in Armenia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Catholic cathedrals in Cyprus}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Catholic cathedrals in Jordan}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Jordan}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. An unnecessarily thin tree that worsens category navigation. Upmerge/delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Link to related discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_7#Category:Roman_Catholic_cathedrals_by_country (consensus: merge/delete) –Aidan721 (talk) 02:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Colombia and :Category:Eastern Catholic cathedrals in Uruguay have been emptied. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• :I have reverted those changes. They each contain 1 page again. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Anglican cathedrals in Eswatini}} to :Category:Anglican cathedrals in Africa, :Category:Churches in Eswatini, :Category:Anglican Church of Southern Africa, and :Category:Anglicanism in Eswatini

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Cathedrals in Eswatini}} to :Category:Churches in Eswatini

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Anglican cathedrals in Ghana}} to :Category:Anglican cathedrals in Africa, :Category:Protestant cathedrals in Ghana and :Category:Anglicanism in Ghana

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings in Ghana}} to :Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Anglican cathedrals in Nigeria}} to :Category:Anglican church buildings in Nigeria, :Category:Cathedrals in Nigeria, and :Category:Anglican cathedrals in Africa

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings in Nigeria}} to :Category:19th-century Anglican church buildings, :Category:Anglican church buildings in Nigeria, and :Category:19th-century religious buildings and structures in Nigeria

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:20th-century Anglican church buildings in Nigeria}} to :Category:20th-century Anglican church buildings, :Category:Anglican church buildings in Nigeria, and :Category:20th-century churches in Nigeria

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Anglican cathedrals in Tanzania}} to :Category:Cathedrals in Tanzania, :Category:Anglicanism in Tanzania, and :Category:Anglican cathedrals in Africa

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Anglican cathedrals in Zambia}} to :Category:Cathedrals in Zambia, :Category:Anglican cathedrals in Africa, and :Category:Anglicanism in Zambia

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:20th-century Anglican church buildings in Zambia}} to :Category:20th-century Anglican church buildings

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Anglican cathedrals in Zimbabwe}} to :Category:Cathedrals in Zimbabwe, :Category:Anglican cathedrals in Africa, and :Category:Anglicanism in Zimbabwe

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Anglican church buildings in Eswatini}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:19th-century churches in Ghana}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:19th-century churches in Nigeria}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Anglican church buildings in Tanzania}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:20th-century churches in Zambia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:20th-century religious buildings and structures in Zambia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Protestant church buildings in Zambia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Protestant cathedrals in Zambia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Anglican churches in Zambia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Anglican church buildings in Zimbabwe}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. An unnecessarily thin tree that worsens category navigation. Upmerge/delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:58, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::Link to related discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_January_7#Category:Roman_Catholic_cathedrals_by_country (consensus: merge/delete) –Aidan721 (talk) 02:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support but... As creator of some of these, I support merging these single-article categories to the nearest non-empty parent in every direction. Congratulations to User:Aidan721 for lifting the heavy work! However in some cases obvious legitimate parents are missing, e.g. the lonely article in :Category:Anglican cathedrals in Zimbabwe should also be placed in {{Cl|Anglicanism in Zimbabwe}} (same for at least Ghana and Zambia). Place Clichy (talk) 06:21, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

::{{ping|Place Clichy}} Good catch. I've added :Category:Anglicanism in X as targets for Zimbabwe, Ghana, and Zambia. Thanks for catching that. The rest already had the target in place. –Aidan721 (talk) 12:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support in principle and seconding Place Clichy's comment. Note that the Anglican churches in these three African countries were not part of the Anglicanism by country tree in the first place (I just added them), so this omission in the nomination is very understandable. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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