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= February 9 =

== Category:1913 Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association football season ==

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:The result of the discussion was: procedural keep. This needs a mass nomination (I'm happy to help if needed). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|1913 Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association football season}}

:Nominator's rationale: There's only a page and the template in here. I've added the main page to the 1913 football season category. Mason (talk) 23:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • This should be nominated together with its siblings. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Keep; part of a well-established, highly-structured categorization scheme. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
  • :Delete per nom. Others in similar situation should also be nominated. Let'srun (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC).
  • This is one of thousands like it; I do not understand why we want to stray from order to disorder, rather than stay orderly and organized. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Fascists by ethnicity ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Fascists by ethnicity to :Category:Fascists

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is a redudant layer. Mason (talk) 23:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Brooklyn Hills football seasons ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Brooklyn Hills football seasons}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only 2 pages in category. Let'srun (talk) 23:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete, I have added a "see also" note directly in the article text. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Staten Island Cricket Club football seasons ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Staten Island Cricket Club football seasons}}

:Nominator's rationale: Only two pages in category Let'srun (talk) 22:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete, I have added a "see also" note directly in the article text. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:12th-century Christian universalists ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. WP:SMALLCAT is no longer a valid policy. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:12, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:12th-century Christian universalists to :Category:Medieval Christian universalists

:* Propose merging :Category:15th-century Christian universalists to :Category:Medieval Christian universalists (added 19:37, 10 February 2024 (UTC))

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in this category, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 22:02, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

::Keep WP:SMALLCAT and the fact that it diffuses multiple navigation schemes. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 22:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:::Small cat is no longer wikipedia policy. What navigation schemes does it diffuse? Mason (talk) 23:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Merge, isolated single-article category. The 15th-century sibling should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Added 15th century {{ping|Koavf|Marcocapelle}} per Marco.

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== Category:Breton historians ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Breton historians to :Category:Historians of Brittany

:Nominator's rationale: Per C2C: Norm is to use Historians of SUBJECT, I'm not sure if this can be speedied because the main page is called List of Breton historians. But as named it could be historians who are ethnically Bretons Mason (talk) 21:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Rename per nom. This is clearly less ambiguous. The list may be renamed too. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Rename per nom. Breton categories are often filled with people based on their link with the region rather than reliable information on their ethnicity anyway. Place Clichy (talk) 17:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:6th-century Indian non-fiction writers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:6th-century Indian non-fiction writers to :Category:6th-century Indian writers

:* Propose merging :Category:5th-century Indian non-fiction writers to :Category:5th-century Indian writers

:* Propose merging :Category:4th-century Indian non-fiction writers to :Category:4th-century Indian writers

:* Propose merging :Category:3rd-century Indian non-fiction writers to :Category:3rd-century Indian writers

:* Propose merging :Category:2nd-century Indian non-fiction writers to :Category:2nd-century Indian writers

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Redudant category layer. Each only has FOOian-century Indian scholars in it Mason (talk) 21:20, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Merge per nom. More siblings may be added. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:21st-century Vietnamese calligraphers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|21st-century Vietnamese calligraphers}} to :Category:Vietnamese calligraphers and :Category:21st-century calligraphers and :Category:21st-century Vietnamese artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:20th-century Vietnamese calligraphers}} to :Category:Vietnamese calligraphers and :Category:20th-century calligraphers and :Category:20th-century Vietnamese artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|Category:19th-century Vietnamese calligraphers}} to :Category:Vietnamese calligraphers and :Category:19th-century calligraphers and :Category:19th-century Vietnamese people

:Nominator's rationale: There are only 4 unique people across these three categories. Upmerge for now Mason (talk) 21:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:21st-century Korean calligraphers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{clc|21st-century Korean calligraphers}} to :Category:Korean calligraphers and :Category:21st-century calligraphers and :Category:21st-century Korean artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|20th-century Korean calligraphers}} to :Category:Korean calligraphers and :Category:20th-century calligraphers and :Category:20th-century Korean artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|13th-century Korean calligraphers}} to :Category:Korean calligraphers and :Category:13th-century calligraphers and :Category:13th-century Korean artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|12th-century Korean calligraphers}} to :Category:Korean calligraphers and :Category:12th-century calligraphers and :Category:12th-century Korean artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|11th-century Korean calligraphers}} to :Category:Korean calligraphers and :Category:11th-century calligraphers and :Category:11th-century Korean artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|10th-century Korean calligraphers}} to :Category:Korean calligraphers and :Category:10th-century calligraphers and :Category:10th-century Korean artists

:* Propose merging {{clc|9th-century Korean calligraphers}} to :Category:Korean calligraphers and :Category:9th-century calligraphers and :Category:9th-century Korean artists

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one (or two) people in each of these categories. Mason (talk) 20:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate these categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:5th-century Chinese musicians ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|5th-century Chinese musicians}} to :Category:5th-century musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:5th-century Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|4th-century Chinese musicians}} to :Category:4th-century musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:4th-century Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|3rd-century Chinese musicians}} to :Category:3rd-century musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:3rd-century Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|2nd-century Chinese musicians}} to :Category:2nd-century musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:2nd-century Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|1st-century Chinese musicians}} to :Category:1st-century musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:1st-century Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|1st-century BC Chinese musicians}} to :Category:1st-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:1st-century BC Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|2nd-century BC Chinese musicians}} to :Category:2nd-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:2nd-century BC Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|3rd-century BC Chinese musicians}} to :Category:3rd-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:3rd-century BC Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|4th-century BC Chinese musicians}} to :Category:4th-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:4th-century BC Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|5th-century BC Chinese musicians}} to :Category:5th-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:5th-century BC Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:* Propose renaming {{clc|6th-century BC Chinese musicians}} to :Category:6th-century BC musicians (and adding the contents to :Category:6th-century BC Chinese people and :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians)

:Nominator's rationale: I propose broadening these categories to include musicians of any nationality. Mason (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Support in principle. I am surprised these categories do not exist yet. The articles should be manually added more specifically to musicians by dynasty categories instead of generally to :Category:Ancient Chinese musicians. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:Non-human characters in video games==

== Category:Wives of Rupert Murdoch ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Wives of Rupert Murdoch}}

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. Already handled at {{cl|Murdoch family}}, spouse categories are incredibly rare except for royalty etc. --woodensuperman 13:50, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Categories like these are not only intended for royalty. Dimadick (talk) 14:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete, articles are already in :Category:Murdoch family and perfectly fine there. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment Is this an inherently limited category? It's not like Murdoch will be having 4 or 5 more wives so there is little potential for growth. Liz Read! Talk! 19:58, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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::Delete; as Liz notes, there is little to no potential for growth here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete Yeah, I'd agree that unlike wives of royalty, this is not defining. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 17:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Mason (talk) 20:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete per nomination and the fact that this is literally an example of a category to not make (i.e. :Category:Husbands of Elizabeth Taylor). ―Justin (koavf)TCM 22:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • :Delete per nom. Not a defining characteristic and extremely limited. Let'srun (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Female soldiers ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. A larger discussion should be held for renaming "women" categories to "female". (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:23, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Female soldiers to :Category:Women soldiers

:Nominator's rationale: A complete WP:OVERLAPCAT. It used to be a redirect, but since User:AHI-3000 thinks it should be its own category, we should probably come to a consensus about whether it should exist. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 19:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

:Reverse merge. "Female soldiers" sounds grammatically better than "women soldiers", because "female" is an adjective and "women" is actually a plural noun. I also think this should be done for other occupational categories that are erroneously named with "Women" at the beginning of their page titles. AHI-3000 (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

:Reverse merge per AHI-3000, and do not purge :Category:Female child soldiers (as it fits under the umbrella "female"). If it is regularly-merged, then do purge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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::Reverse merge per discussion above. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Note As :Category:Female soldiers is the newer category, in order to preserve history, the merge should still be executed as I proposed, but then the category renamed to "Female soldiers". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 17:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • :Procedurally oppose. I think we should not be having a ton of these renaming women to female simultaneously. Mason (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • ::Even if you oppose changing the name, surely you support both categories not existing at the same time, right? I don't understand why you would oppose even that. I have no preference on what name it ends up as, I just deferred to the one that has been stable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 20:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • :::That's a good point. I'll support the merge in these circumstaces. Mason (talk) 23:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge as nominated with no prejuduice to a rename in a larger discussion. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Articles about multiple people ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Articles about multiple people to :Category:Groups of people

:Nominator's rationale: The current title isn't really defining, as it refers to the article rather than the article subject. The rename would remedy that by making it clear it's talking about the subjects of each article. A move to this name failed in 2011, but for an odd reason - they claimed that 2 people were not a "group". Merriam-Webster defines group as "two or more", so this is flat-out wrong. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 15:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Rename per nom. Without context it is a somewhat odd title, but it is a container category so it won't lead to confusion for editors of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:People from the New York metropolitan area by city ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:People from the New York metropolitan area by city to :Category:People from the New York metropolitan area by populated place

:Nominator's rationale: There are towns, townships, cities, and more in this category. Rename accordingly. See related: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_4#Category:American_people_by_city_and_occupationAidan721 (talk) 14:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Lists of American people by city ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Lists of American people by city to :Category:Lists of American people by populated place

:Nominator's rationale: Not all places are cities in this category. Rename per prior precedents including Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_4#Category:American_people_by_city_and_occupation. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 20:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Fictional characters by descent==

==Category:19th-century Roman Catholic bishops in the Papal States==

==Category:Modern Latin-language writers==

== Category:Speeches by Bahram Beyzai ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Speeches by Bahram Beyzai to :Category:Works by Bahram Beyzai

:* Propose merging :Category:Speeches by Harold Macmillan to :Category:Speeches by Conservative Party (UK)

:* Propose merging :Category:Speeches by Nelson Mandela to :Category:South Africa presidential speeches

:* Propose merging :Category:Speeches by Thabo Mbeki to :Category:South Africa presidential speeches

:* Propose merging :Category:Speeches by Yasser Arafat to :Category:Yasser Arafat

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one speech in each, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 05:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:Atheist writers==

==Category:Dutch atheist writers==

== Category:Pride parades in Nevada ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Pride parades in Nevada to :Category:Pride parades in the United States and :Category:LGBT events in Nevada

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one category in here, which is unhelpful for navigation Mason (talk) 04:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:BBC World Service foreign language==

== Category:GA-Class Nazi Germany articles ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 15:35, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|GA-Class Nazi Germany articles}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|FA-Class Nazi Germany articles}}

:Nominator's rationale: These articles should not be manually added, but added through WikiProject banner templates. These (as far as I can tell) are not connected to any task force or WikiProject. WP:WikiProject Nazi Germany redirects to Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany but Template:WikiProject Germany does not have a task force for it. Also while Wikipedia:Nazi affiliation task force exists, there isn't a main category for that task force. Gonnym (talk) 13:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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::These deletions seems reasonable. I don't have strong opinions. Has anyone asked the Wikiproject what they'd like to do with it? Mason (talk) 02:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:Translators of Ray Bradbury==

== Category:Translators of Agatha Christie ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Translators of Agatha Christie}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCASSOC --woodensuperman 10:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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::Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Humor and wit characters ==

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Humor and wit characters to :Category:Comedy characters

:Nominator's rationale: Seems like a complete overlap; humor and wit is by definition comedy. Category was also made by a blocked user. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 06:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

  • Question about the target: does "comedy" include folklore tales? Because that is what a number of articles are about. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  • :If the characters aren't explicitly comedic, they should probably just be purged. Calling a non-comedic character humorous or not, is personal opinion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 14:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
  • :* It is a bit of a grey area though. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Stand-up comedy concert films ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Stand-up comedy concert films to :Category:Stand-up comedy specials and films

:Nominator's rationale: There are no separate Categories for non-concert films of stand-up comedy, so the disambiguation is unneeded. The Category was created in the early year of 2006. Recorded, edited and released long-form stand-up comedy acts are ubiquitously referred to as "specials". Separately, Wikipedia defines a concert as being a live musical performance in front of an audience. DA1 (talk) 09:24, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

::Addendum: The Primetime Emmy Awards nominates comedy specials under the category Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Variety Special (Pre-Recorded), and the Golden Globe Awards began in 2024 the [https://variety.com/2023/film/news/comedians-react-new-golden-globes-stand-up-category-1235740897/ Best Performance in Stand-Up Comedy on Television]. DA1 (talk) 15:26, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Women foos ==

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:The result of the discussion was: Keep. If there are individual categories that should be renamed, they should be nominated individually. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:23, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women academics}} to :Category:Female academics

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women accountants}} to :Category:Female accountants

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women activists}} to :Category:Female activists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women art collectors}} to :Category:Female art collectors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women artisans}} to :Category:Female artisans

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women arts administrators}} to :Category:Female arts administrators

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women astronauts}} to :Category:Female astronauts

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women audio engineers}} to :Category:Female audio engineers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women aviators}} to :Category:Female aviators

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women chefs}} to :Category:Female chefs

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women collectors}} to :Category:Female collectors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women conductors (music)}} to :Category:Female conductors (music)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women conservationists}} to :Category:Female conservationists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women diplomats}} to :Category:Female diplomats

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women directors}} to :Category:Female directors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women editors}} to :Category:Female editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women educational personnel}} to :Category:Female educational personnel

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women educational theorists}} to :Category:Female educational theorists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women educators}} to :Category:Female educators

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women engineers}} to :Category:Female engineers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women entertainers}} to :Category:Female entertainers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women evangelists}} to :Category:Female evangelists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women farmers}} to :Category:Female farmers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women financial analysts}} to :Category:Female financial analysts

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women folklorists}} to :Category:Female folklorists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women jurists}} to :Category:Female jurists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women trade union leaders}} to :Category:Female trade union leaders

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women landowners}} to :Category:Female landowners

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women lawyers}} to :Category:Female lawyers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women legislators}} to :Category:Female legislators

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women lighthouse keepers}} to :Category:Female lighthouse keepers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women motivational speakers}} to :Category:Female motivational speakers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women music promoters}} to :Category:Female music promoters

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women mystics}} to :Category:Female mystics

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women philatelists}} to :Category:Female philatelists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women philosophers}} to :Category:Female philosophers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women physicians}} to :Category:Female physicians

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women podcasters}} to :Category:Female podcasters

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women police officers}} to :Category:Female police officers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women politicians}} to :Category:Female politicians

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women presidents of organizations}} to :Category:Female presidents of organizations

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women printers}} to :Category:Female printers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women referees and umpires}} to :Category:Female referees and umpires

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women restaurateurs}} to :Category:Female restaurateurs

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women rulers}} to :Category:Female rulers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women scholars and academics}} to :Category:Female scholars and academics

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women scientists}} to :Category:Female scientists

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women sheriffs}} to :Category:Female sheriffs

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women slaves}} to :Category:Female slaves

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women slave owners}} to :Category:Female slave owners

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women spies}} to :Category:Female spies

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women stamp designers}} to :Category:Female stamp designers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women stock traders}} to :Category:Female stock traders

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women theatre managers and producers}} to :Category:Female theatre managers and producers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women theologians}} to :Category:Female theologians

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women urban planners}} to :Category:Female urban planners

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women video game developers}} to :Category:Female video game developers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women video game producers}} to :Category:Female video game producers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women video game programmers}} to :Category:Female video game programmers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women writers}} to :Category:Female writers

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women yogis}} to :Category:Female yogis

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Indian women newspaper editors}} to :Category:Female Indian newspaper editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women print editors}} to :Category:Female print editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women magazine editors}} to :Category:Female magazine editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women newspaper editors}} to :Category:Female newspaper editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women sound editors}} to :Category:Female sound editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:American women editors}} to :Category:Female American editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Argentine women editors}} to :Category:Female Argentine editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Australian women editors}} to :Category:Female Australian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Austrian women editors}} to :Category:Female Austrian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Bolivian women editors}} to :Category:Female Bolivian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Brazilian women editors}} to :Category:Female Brazilian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:British women editors}} to :Category:Female British editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Bulgarian women editors}} to :Category:Female Bulgarian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Canadian women editors}} to :Category:Female Canadian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Chilean women editors}} to :Category:Female Chilean editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Chinese women editors}} to :Category:Female Chinese editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Czech women editors}} to :Category:Female Czech editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Danish women editors}} to :Category:Female Danish editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Egyptian women editors}} to :Category:Female Egyptian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Estonian women editors}} to :Category:Female Estonian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Finnish women editors}} to :Category:Female Finnish editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:French women editors}} to :Category:Female French editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:German women editors}} to :Category:Female German editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Ghanaian women editors}} to :Category:Female Ghanaian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Greek women editors}} to :Category:Female Greek editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Hungarian women editors}} to :Category:Female Hungarian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Icelandic women editors}} to :Category:Female Icelandic editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Indian women editors}} to :Category:Female Indian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Iranian women editors}} to :Category:Female Iranian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Irish women editors}} to :Category:Female Irish editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Israeli women editors}} to :Category:Female Israeli editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Italian women editors}} to :Category:Female Italian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Japanese women editors}} to :Category:Female Japanese editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Kuwaiti women editors}} to :Category:Female Kuwaiti editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Mexican women editors}} to :Category:Female Mexican editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:New Zealand women editors}} to :Category:Female New Zealand editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Norwegian women editors}} to :Category:Female Norwegian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Peruvian women editors}} to :Category:Female Peruvian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Polish women editors}} to :Category:Female Polish editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Romanian women editors}} to :Category:Female Romanian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Russian women editors}} to :Category:Female Russian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Saudi Arabian women editors}} to :Category:Female Saudi Arabian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Serbian women editors}} to :Category:Female Serbian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Slovenian women editors}} to :Category:Female Slovenian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:South African women editors}} to :Category:Female South African editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Spanish women editors}} to :Category:Female Spanish editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Sudanese women editors}} to :Category:Female Sudanese editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Swedish women editors}} to :Category:Female Swedish editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Swiss women editors}} to :Category:Female Swiss editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Taiwanese women editors}} to :Category:Female Taiwanese editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Tunisian women editors}} to :Category:Female Tunisian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Turkish women editors}} to :Category:Female Turkish editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Ukrainian women editors}} to :Category:Female Ukrainian editors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Spanish women film editors‎}} to :Category:Female Spanish film editors‎

:Nominator's rationale: "Women" is a noun, "female" is an adjective. There are probably many categories I missed, but this is a good start. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

::Oppose. I've started to think about this some more as the nom has been coming up. (I personally prefer being called a women, than being described as female).

::: 1) These renames are going to wreck havoc on a ton of pre-existing templates, which just makes more work. Going from FOO female/woman to female/women FOO occupation splits the occupation category.

::: 2) I do not want to see this trickle down into categories called Fooian females, because there are numerous undertones. I would like the previsions discussions related to these renames to be linked here.

::: 3) I would really like some feedback from more women focused wikipedia groups.

::: 4) I think women makes it clearer that being a women in the occupation is a defining feature, rather than someone who is female. Mason (talk) 03:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose as "women" refers to gender, while "female" refers to sex. Ed [talk[OMT] 03:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

:* That is also a good point. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Support selected moves. Women does go in front of nouns. A recent phenomenon is to put "female" in front instead of women, which has only been happening in the past few decades. The thing about this change is that some fields still have "women" as more common.

:Here is a listing on Google Ngrams to consider the most common:

:* "Female editors" is [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=women+editors%2Cfemale+editors&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 more common].

:* "Women scientists" is [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=women+scientists%2Cfemale+scientists&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 more common]

:* "Women writers" is [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=women+writers%2C+female+writers&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 more common]

:* "Women lawyers" is [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=women+lawyers%2C+female+lawyers&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 more common]

:* "Women academics" is [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=women+academics%2Cfemale+academics&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 more common]

:* "Female politicians" is [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=women+politicians%2Cfemale+politicians&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 more common]

:* "Women artists" is [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=female+artists%2Cwomen+artists&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3 more common]

:An issue is that "women" applies only to adults whereas "female" is inclusive to children (girls). We had this issue on the List of female monarchs, which previously used "women monarchs" and was moved to "female".

:To reply to {{U|The ed17}}'s mention that "female" refers to sex and "women" gender, that point does not follow consensus on Women, where "female" refers to both gender and sex. —Panamitsu (talk) 03:46, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose: As an 80-year-old Brit, my initial inclination was to use "female" as a qualifier, in both articles and categories on Wikipedia, but as a result of discussions with experts in the field such as {{u|SusunW}} I now frequently use "women" as a pseudo-adjective. For most sports though, "female" is widely used internationally and is generally more appropriate for Wikipedia categories, see :Category:Sportswomen by sport. I would not support these being changed to "women", e.g. women baseball players. The many existing categories including "women" and "female" function well and are widely used. I strongly suggest they should be maintained.--Ipigott (talk) 07:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose: as noun modifiers are so commonplace in informal writing, formal writing, and our category tree that the rationale is wrong. If there are other reasons to prefer "female", I'd love to her them. The Ngram analysis is nice, but we shouldn't choose one form over the other if the Ngrams show that they're close and there are other reasons (e.g. consistency) to stick with the slightly less common version. I would feel differently if one form were vastly more common than the other. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Strongly Oppose: If you look at the history of women vs. female as a modifier, it dates to the 14th century. According to the Oxford English Dictionary woman first appeared as an adjective in 1382.[https://web.archive.org/web/20151111110845/http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/more/2024/] According to Webster's Dictionary,[https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/lady-woman-female-usage] Henry Fowler, who wrote the 1926 Dictionary of Modern English Usage, was the first scholar to insist that woman was a noun and female was an adjective. (Interestingly he argued that female suffrage was the correct term, and that women who opposed that phraseology were whiny, but the largest global organization pressing for suffrage was the International Woman Suffrage Alliance.) Journalists have varying opinions on whether woman can be a noun modifier.[https://www.newyorker.com/culture/comma-queen/female-trouble-the-debate-over-woman-as-an-adjective],[https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/18/opinion/18iht-edsafire.4943390.html],[https://www.buzzfeed.com/tracyclayton/stop-calling-women-females#.hioL5MYlm],[https://www.dailywritingtips.com/female-or-woman/],[https://newrepublic.com/article/119954/woman-female-or-lady-which-term-appropriate] Scholars have also debated the question[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1294891.pdf], [https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/197741614.pdf] and dictionaries disagree as well. According to "Grammar Girl" Mignon Fogarty Webster's (their article on usage indicates it's not cut and dry) and American Heritage indicate woman is a noun, Dictionary.com says woman can be used as a noun or adjective, and the Oxford English Dictionary states that woman can be used as an appositive noun.[https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/articles/woman-versus-female-2/] Guardian reporter Maddie York, whose personal preference is for woman to be restricted to use as a noun, states that the Chamber's Dictionary considers the usage of female and woman to be interchangeable and the Collin's Dictionary lists woman as a modifier.[https://www.theguardian.com/media/mind-your-language/2014/oct/17/women-doctors-women-mps-women-bishops-mind-your-language] Given this history there is no logical reason the categories should be renamed to choose one word over another. SusunW (talk) 15:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per most/all of the various different arguments above, and the sheer hassle of catching all of them, which I don't think the nom does. Johnbod (talk) 15:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • :Oppose per above discussion. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose per the oppose votes above. Trying to avoid repeating the arguments. -- Rohini (talk) 16:55, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Per the various arguments given, things are not nearly as cut and dry as the nomination claims. It's amazing that somehow it was assumed that whoever made all these categories was unable to distinguish a noun from an adjective. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 17:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Strongly oppose. Making such a change would be a prime example of trying to make language fit a rigid idea of consistency and correctness, rather than reflecting how language is actually used and understood by editors and readers. And in many cases, changing "women" to "female" would be borderline offensive, as it would abruptly draw attention to biological sex in contexts where it is not relevant. Note the difference between "She was the first woman astronaut to orbit the moon" and "Accommodating the bodies of the first female astronauts presented space suit designers with a new set of issues." Each of these sentences, I would argue, uses the best word in the context. Would support going with common usage, which is rarely consistent and often "incorrect". — scribblingwoman 19:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose. As the founder of WP:WPWW in 2014, I can tell you that we had this conversation back then when deciding about creating new categories to support our WikiProject's work. Academics who focus on women's literature were part of the discussion (including off-wiki). In addition, my point of view is supported by the oppose arguments presented here by others. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Remove the women/female subcategories, {{em|or}} Add a "man" (for consistency with "woman") subcategory as well. {{em|Or}} have both "male"/"female" subcats. Either way we should be both equal-opportunity (subcats for both sexes/genders) and consistent (man/woman or male/female). Mitch Ames (talk) 08:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
  • : {{tqq|Remove the women/female subcategories}} {{mdash}} and the men/male subcategories (as {{U|Ipigott}} mentioned [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Mitch_Ames&diff=prev&oldid=1206558049 on my talk page]), where they exist and are irrelevant to being a foo. Mitch Ames (talk) 23:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
  • support considerable effort has been on going for sometime to address the Bias singular terminology will help in the identification of such bias. Gnangarra 12:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
  • :Can you @Gnangarra unpack what you mean by "address the Bias singular terminology will help in the identification of such bias"? Mason (talk) 02:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
  • ::"considerable effort has been on going for sometime to address the Bias..." WP:BIAS female catches the nuiances between women and transgender. Gnangarra 04:28, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

::::The article you refer to appears to me to call for increased efforts in support of women. I see no call for standardizing terminology.--Ipigott (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

:Perhaps it's a special case but (a) 'female astronauts' is in common use, and (b) social gender isn't as relevant as biological sex. (Both male and female astronauts are biology research test subjects, among other roles.) (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk)

  • Oppose because the rationale is faulty. Noun adjuncts are a very standard part of English. We can debate whether using "female" or "women" properly reflects the focus of these categories, but we cannot do so starting from the false premise that there is any grammatical reason to prefer one or the other construction. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:38, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose because the nom's rationale is incorrect as pointed out by the various other oppose !votes. TipsyElephant (talk) 06:16, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:1910s business films ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:29, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1910s business films to :Category:1910s films and :Category:20th-century business films

:Nominator's rationale: Only one page in here, which isn't helpful for navigation Mason (talk) 04:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

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::Merge per nom. Let'srun (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:1910 government budgets ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:28, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1910 government budgets to :Category:1910s government budgets and :Category:1910 in economic history

:* Propose merging :Category:1969 government budgets to :Category:1960s government budgets and :Category:1969 in economic history

:* Propose merging :Category:1968 government budgets to :Category:1960s government budgets and :Category:1968 in economic history

:* Propose merging :Category:1958 government budgets to :Category:1950s government budgets and :Category:1958 in economic history

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Not enough content to support diffusing this decade by year Mason (talk) 04:07, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Merge for now, without objection to recreate the categories when some more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose Small categories are more useful than decade-level categories for economic topics. The budgets should also be included in :Category:x year in politics categories. Dimadick (talk) 13:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

:* The articles are already in country subcategories of :Category:x year in politics. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

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  • Merge for Now without objection to recreation later should more articles be published per WP:MFN. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Men's alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics}} to :Category:Alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics, :Category:Men's events at the 1936 Winter Olympics, and :Category:Men's alpine skiing at the Winter Olympics

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Women's alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics}} to :Category:Alpine skiing at the 1936 Winter Olympics, :Category:Women's events at the 1936 Winter Olympics, :Category:Women's alpine skiing at the Winter Olympics, and :Category:1936 in women's alpine skiing

:Nominator's rationale: There was only 1 women's and men's alpine skiing event the 1936 Winter Olympics. Merge in the spirit of WP:C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Seasons in hockey ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 14:35, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2002–03 in European hockey}} to :Category:2002 in European sport and :Category:2003 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2003–04 in European hockey}} to :Category:2003 in European sport and :Category:2004 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2004–05 in European hockey}} to :Category:2004 in European sport and :Category:2005 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2005–06 in European hockey}} to :Category:2005 in European sport and :Category:2006 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2006–07 in European hockey}} to :Category:2006 in European sport and :Category:2007 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2007–08 in European hockey}} to :Category:2007 in European sport and :Category:2008 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2008–09 in European hockey}} to :Category:2008 in European sport and :Category:2009 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2009–10 in European hockey}} to :Category:2009 in European sport and :Category:2010 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2010–11 in European hockey}} to :Category:2010 in European sport and :Category:2011 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2011–12 in European hockey}} to :Category:2011 in European sport and :Category:2012 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2012–13 in European hockey}} to :Category:2012 in European sport and :Category:2013 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2013–14 in European hockey}} to :Category:2013 in European sport and :Category:2014 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2014–15 in European hockey}} to :Category:2014 in European sport and :Category:2015 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2015–16 in European hockey}} to :Category:2015 in European sport and :Category:2016 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2016–17 in European hockey}} to :Category:2016 in European sport and :Category:2017 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2017–18 in European hockey}} to :Category:2017 in European sport and :Category:2018 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2018–19 in European hockey}} to :Category:2018 in European sport and :Category:2019 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2019–20 in European hockey}} to :Category:2019 in European sport and :Category:2020 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2020–21 in European hockey}} to :Category:2020 in European sport and :Category:2021 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2021–22 in European hockey}} to :Category:2021 in European sport and :Category:2022 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2022–23 in European hockey}} to :Category:2022 in European sport and :Category:2023 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2023–24 in European hockey}} to :Category:2023 in European sport and :Category:2024 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2025–26 in European hockey}} to :Category:2025 in European sport and :Category:2026 in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Seasons in European hockey}} to :Category:Seasons in European sport

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Seasons in hockey}} to :Category:Sports seasons by sport

:Nominator's rationale: We don't need to categorize the intersection of seasons for ice hockey and field hockey. Not useful in any way. Merge. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

  • Merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge. Field hockey and ice hockey don't share anything besides the name. They belong to a larger family of {{C|Stick sports}}, which also include lacrosse, bandy, hurling, rink hockey etc. Place Clichy (talk) 17:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Seasons in United States Virgin Islands soccer ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2014–15 in United States Virgin Islands soccer}} to :Category:2014 in United States Virgin Islands sports and :Category:2015 in United States Virgin Islands sports

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2018–19 in United States Virgin Islands soccer}} to :Category:2018 in United States Virgin Islands sports and :Category:2019 in United States Virgin Islands sports

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2019–20 in United States Virgin Islands soccer}} to :Category:2019 in United States Virgin Islands sports and :Category:2020 in United States Virgin Islands sports

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2022–23 in United States Virgin Islands soccer}} to :Category:2022 in United States Virgin Islands sports and :Category:2023 in United States Virgin Islands sports

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Seasons in United States Virgin Islands soccer}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Charities based in Romania ==

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 12:14, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Charities based in Romania to :Category:Non-profit organizations based in Romania

:Nominator's rationale: 1 entry as per WP:SMALLCAT. Suggest merge with parent. LibStar (talk) 00:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Seasons in Cook Islands football ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2019 in Cook Islands football}} to :Category:2019 in Cook Islands sport

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Seasons in Cook Islands football}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Seasons in Guinean football ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:2018–19 in Guinean football}} to :Category:2018 in Guinean sport and :Category:2019 in Guinean sport

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Seasons in Guinean football}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT. Merge/delete. The lone articles are already in the parent trees, so an additional merge is unnecessary. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

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