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== Category:Further education colleges in Carmarthenshire ==

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Further education colleges in Carmarthenshire to :Category:Further education colleges in Wales

:Nominator's rationale: Merge also to :Category:Buildings and structures in Carmarthenshire

:Category:Education in Carmarthenshire

Category containing only a single article, better categorised within the parents. AusLondonder (talk) 21:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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==Category:Juvenile prisons in England==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 1%23Category:Juvenile prisons in England

== Category:Trump administration personnel ==

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Trump administration personnel to :Category:First Trump administration personnel

:Nominator's rationale:I think we should differentiate between the first and second go-around for Trump. Vinnylospo (talk) 18:11, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

:Question. What do the Cleveland administration categories look like?SMasonGarrison 22:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Rename target?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Whitnash ==

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Pinging Marcocapelle in case he wishes to purge anything as an individual editor action. :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Whitnash}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and a biography, both are already appropriately categorised. Unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 17:57, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Weak keep I've added 2 more articles and it now has a sub category and given its a town it probably is appropriate to have a category for it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on Crouch, Swale's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

  • The biography does not belong here, per WP:COPSEP, it is appropriately in :Category:Clergy from Warwickshire. The football club (article and subcategory) is likely to move away from Whitnash soon, it is barely a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
  • :{{Ping|Marcocapelle}} perhaps we need more guidance on the number of pages a topic category or other categories should contain/could contain given SMALLCAT was deprecated. Whitnash parish had a population of 10,489 in 2021 but Stanhope had only 4,436 but :Category:Stanhope, County Durham has 56 pages and a sub category. I'm not of the mind that we should keep all categories except those like :Category:Churches in Kenton, Devon for example that would probably only even contain 1 page as most villages only have 1 or 2 churches but most villages/parishes like Kenton would probably be able to have a list of listed buildings and several would probably be clearly notable even if we assumed not every listed building was notable per WP:GEOFEAT and there would probably be one or 2 other things in the parish or something else associated with the village so add to a category. Consider :Category:Grassington which until recently had only 2 articles other than the main article but now has a total of 10 articles. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Response to Crouch, Swale's latest comment? A subcategory and three articles as of relisting (one of which is a biography).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment The school article should also not be in this category as it is not located in the town and is already appropriately categorised in :Category:Academies in Warwickshire :Category:Schools in Leamington Spa and :Category:Secondary schools in Warwickshire. Other, smaller towns may have categories if there are sufficient genuine articles for them. That's what's relevant. AusLondonder (talk) 22:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • :Its in the [https://mapit.mysociety.org/area/153808.html parish] so is within the scope of the category. Its normal for both articles and categories to cover both settlements and administrative units that may cover other units so the school can be in the Royal Leamington Spa tree as well as here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • :* With so many questionable articles in it I am certainly not changing my mind about deletion of the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • ::Given the size of the place and the fact we have several articles here I still think it should be kept. The school doesn't seem dubious and if the football club moves away we can reconsider. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:29, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Members of the American Antiquarian Society ==

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Members of the American Antiquarian Society}}

:Nominator's rationale: A non-defining characteristic. User:Namiba 17:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Delete, mere membership of an organization is hardly ever a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Times that 1100 Wikipedians supported something ==

:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:35, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Times that 1100 Wikipedians supported something to :Category:Times that 1000 Wikipedians supported something

:Nominator's rationale: We don't really need such fine-grained divisions. The amount of times 1000 Wikipedians or more supported something is already very low, and subdividing to the nearest hundred will leave most categories empty, or with one item at most. Having them all in :Category:Times that 1000 Wikipedians supported something makes for better navigation. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

::I agree once we reach 1000 we should make it exponential if needed or by 500s •Cyberwolf•talk? 14:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

::^^*Yes. Agree with Liz. - Shearonink (talk) 03:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

:* I tagged that category page too. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Merge the one page that exists in the 1200 one, and Delete the 1100 one. Agree with previous comment of Liz. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Merge anything above 1000 should be in increments of 1000. Seems silly to keep doing it in units of 100. SWinxy (talk) 07:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Delete. There are a number of items in WP:300 that had 400+ supports because it's called Wikipedia:Times that 300 or more Wikipedians supported something. We don't need a category for 400, 500, 600, and so and and so forth, yet, because of how empty they'd be. Just keep with the existing one that encompasses 300+ supports. Useight (talk) 02:39, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:People from Ngawi ==

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:40, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Ngawi to :Category:People from Ngawi Regency

:Nominator's rationale: Recently created and seemingly duplicates the longstanding :Category:People from Ngawi Regency, which was emptied out of process to populate it (I have reverted those actions). Ngawi is ambiguous, so this category should not be titled without a disambiguator. It seems that subcategorization is not merited, but I don't have strong feelings about a merge outcome if the community decides renaming would be best. ✗plicit 12:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

:small problem I have a strong feeling that all Indonesian categories should be consistent across all Regencies or Provinces, whatever the topic - I havent looked or checked, but individual stand alone categories against the rest of Indonesian categories should be strongly discouraged. JarrahTree 12:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Fiction fandom ==

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:34, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Fiction fandom to :Category:Fandom

:Nominator's rationale: After removing some subcategories, I realize this category is kinda unnecessary, most things related to fandoms are associated with the fans of creative work(s) of fiction. A merge is highly recommended for how small this category has become is and why I believe it is unnecessary. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Oppose, it isn't so small that a merge would be necessary, it has no less than 10 subcategories. Besides I disagree with the first part of the rationale too, since sports fandom and music fandom are just as important. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose agree with Marcocapelle's comment. This has enough pages to be a category. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Film and video fandom ==

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Film fandom. (non-admin closure) Cremastra ‹ u — c › 01:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Film and video fandom to :Category:Film fandom

:Nominator's rationale: Why is it titled film AND video fandom? Shouldn't it be simply titled "Film fandom"? We already have "category:television fandom" which doesn't have a messy name like this one. I'm also removing several things unrelated to film from this category in accordance to the proposed rename. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:26, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Rename per nom. (Though next time better wait with purging until after the discussion.) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • How about film and television fandom? Espngeek (talk) 13:36, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Medical doctors from Rajahmundry ==

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:34, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Medical doctors from Rajahmundry to :Category:Medical doctors from Andhra Pradesh

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 01:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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== Category:Medical doctors from Jharkhand ==

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. (non-admin closure) Cremastra ‹ u — c › 21:15, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Medical doctors from Jharkhand to :Category:Indian medical doctors

:Nominator's rationale: Only contains 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 01:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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