Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 11#Category:Honor

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:04, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Israel Prize in social sciences recipients who were economists to :Category:Israel Prize in social sciences recipients

:* Propose merging :Category:Israel Prize in social sciences recipients who were historians to :Category:Israel Prize in social sciences recipients

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection User:Namiba 17:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:25, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Merge per nom. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Raymond3023 (talk) 14:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge One of the few defining awards but we should stick to the offical categories they were awarded in. (I checked and all the biographies are already in :Category:Israeli economists or :Category:Israeli historians, so no dual merge is needed.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:04, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Ships build by George Brown and Company to :Category:Ships built by George Brown and Company

:Nominator's rationale: typo in title Davidships (talk) 13:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Speedy rename WP:C2A / C2C. – Fayenatic London 13:59, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:04, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Apartheid States}}

:Nominator's rationale: This is an odd category that does not meet WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, and depending on which subjectivity is used will likely also fail WP:NARROWCAT. There are currently five entries (Bantustan, Confederate States of America, Rhodesia, Union of South Africa, and South West Africa), and it is unclear what the inclusion criteria for that diverse mix of articles is meant to be. All entries have issues. The Union of South Africa is where apartheid developed, but only towards the end, and most of apartheid history took place after the establishment of a Republic. South West Africa did have an apartheid system throughout its history, but it was not a state. Those are the key polities covered in the Apartheid article. The concept of Bantustans was a product of apartheid, but it sounds very odd for the bantustans to be described as "Apartheid states". I could see an academic paper creating a meaning for the label that would work, but that is far too specific for a category. Rhodesia and the Confederate States of America had severe racial discrimination, but not apartheid systems. I don't see how the category could be defined in a way that would add value to a reading of the Apartheid article. CMD (talk) 10:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

::Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 15:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. The creating editor's subjective definition of "Apartheid" is (at best) questionable. As is their [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Segregation_in_Northern_Ireland&diff=prev&oldid=1250589643 apparent] [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States&diff=prev&oldid=1250589596 classification] of all forms of segregation or discrimination as equivalent to (or examples of) "Apartheid". In most cases such classifications being applied without any explanation or apparent consideration of WP:CATV... Guliolopez (talk) 19:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Honour. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Honor to :Category:Honour

:Nominator's rationale: To match main article Honour. Opposed last month at CFDS. AusLondonder (talk) 09:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Mild oppose, as the contents include many articles and sub-cats with the spelling "honor", many of which are US-centric and therefore would never be renamed to match. – Fayenatic London 14:56, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• :That doesn't make sense as to why the main category should not match the main article. That's standard practice. AusLondonder (talk) 05:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
• Rename with redirect per nom. I don't follow Fayenatic london's argument here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Working-class culture in Baltimore}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category is mostly populated with neighborhoods. It's not clear exactly what makes a piece of culture "working-class" and how we draw the line, and it's not the normal way we organize categories. Sdkb ^talk 04:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

::Yeah I recently saw :Category:Upper class culture in Maryland which again mostly consists of neighbourhoods and wasn't sure it was appropriate. AusLondonder (talk) 09:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete, after purging the neighborhoods not much useful is left. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep The claim that neighborhoods don't belong in the category is not an argument for deleting the category. It's an argument for not including the neighborhoods. And I would argue that neighborhoods do belong if reliable sources characterize them that way. The idea that we can't refer to anything as "working-class" is absurd. We can do exactly that by using reliable sources that discuss the working class nature of an event, cultural practice, organization, etc. Simply because the idea of "working-class culture" is unknown to the nominator is not at all a justification for deletion. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Singaporean case law by topic to :Category:Singaporean case law

:Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer Mason (talk) 03:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Shooting coaches by nationality to :Category:Shooting coaches

:* Propose merging :Category:French shooting coaches to :Category:Shooting coaches and :Category:French sports coaches (added 11 Oct at 16:13)

:Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer with only one nationality in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 01:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge, also :Category:French shooting coaches to :Category:Shooting coaches as it only contains 1 article. I was going to nominate :Category:Shooting coaches itself for upmerging to Sports coaches, but I found a US college subcat and other articles to go in it via links from German Wikipedia. – Fayenatic London 15:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge both per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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