Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 17

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:User custom license tags. (non-admin closure) Cremastra (u — c) 23:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|User-specific file copyright templates}} to :Category:User custom license tags

:Nominator's rationale: Single-member category for an unused userspace template. Merge it to :Category:User custom license tags. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:05, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|World Series at Yankee Stadium}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCVENUE. All of the articles are already in the appropriate subcategories so merging is not necessary. User:Namiba 18:19, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Tagging User:Carguychris, User:Marcocapelle, User:Smasongarrison and User:RevelationDirect who commented on the Events at Yankee Stadium discussion as this is directly related.--User:Namiba 18:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: This category is justifiable from the considerable amount of coverage noting how many World Series are at Yankee Stadium (esp. the 1923-2009 one). It may not be a justifiable category for other baseball stadiums but it is for this one. _pbp 18:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

::WP:OCVENUE does not make an exception for the amount of coverage. This information is better presented as prose in the articles about the stadiums and the team. Carguychris (talk) 14:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Additionally, there are two Yankee Stadiums—the present one and the historical one—and the category confusingly doesn't differentiate between them. Carguychris (talk) 14:00, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 14:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:00, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Marvel Cinematic Universe music to :Category:Music of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

:Nominator's rationale: C2D: Consistency with Music of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support Seems reasonable.★Trekker (talk) 17:52, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom – ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 23:52, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Members of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre to :Category:Knights of the Holy Sepulchre

:Nominator's rationale: This category is superfluous. If you're a member, you're a knight, and vice versa. M.O.X (talk) 09:05, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

• Downmerge or reverse merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
• ’’’Oppose’’’ The Order consists of both knights, nuns and laywomen, several of whom are listed under this category. (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel the Monk (talk • contribs) 14:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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• That is a fair point, there are also dames next to knights. So there are two solutions: reverse merge, or split between knights and dames. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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::I support a reverse merge. M.O.X (talk) 03:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: I will tag :Category:Knights of the Holy Sepulchre.
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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Botswana constituencies in Selebi-Phikwe to :Category:Constituencies in the Central District (Botswana)

:Nominator's rationale: There is no parent category for Selebi-Phikwe, so this is not a useful subcat of the district parent. – Fayenatic London 14:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Or else (second choice) rename and reparent to :Category:Selebi-Phikwe and add the eponymous article and BCL Limited to it. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Elk and red deer to :Category:Cervus

:Nominator's rationale: This conflates two Cervus species. Splitting them as suggested at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_October_9#Category:Elk_and_red_deer could be confusing, as sub-species Kansu red deer and Tibetan red deer are Cervus canadensis (elk) rather than Cervus elaphus (red deer). Central Asian red deer may also be a separate species (its 3 subspecies also have articles), but there does not seem to be scientific consensus on that yet. Upmerging as suggested by the previous CFD closer {{u|Debresser}} may be best. – Fayenatic London 11:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge as per nom. No need for this category per discussion. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge both into :Category:American gangsters of the interwar period. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Depression-era gangsters to :Category:Depression-era gangsters

:Nominator's rationale: These are really overlapping categories. Does anyone have ideas for how to make these two categories more distinct, or perhaps combine them? For the record. Prohibition in the united states was from Jan 17, 1920 – Dec 5, 1933, whereas the great depression was from 1929 to 1939ish. Mason (talk) 02:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

::comment Merging in this way does not seem to be the answer, as it is not true that all :Category:Depression-era gangsters also were active in the Depression era. Perhaps, someone can make a count of the actual overlap of articles, not just the time period overlaps. thanks Hmains (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

• There is only four years of overlap but both are very short periods to categorize people by. So I support the merge in principle but then it should probably become :Category:Gangsters of the interwar period. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:23, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Doesn't "interwar" lose the implication of "American" that both "Prohibition" and "Depression" have? Maybe it should be {{cat|American gangsters of the interwar period}}. jlwoodwa (talk) 14:53, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
• :* Of course, you are completely right. The same thing also applies to the current :Category:Depression-era gangsters. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
• :*:What about :Category:Prohibition and Great Depression gangsters? AHI-3000 (talk) 21:57, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• :*:* Then at least it should become :Category:Prohibition-era and American Great Depression-era gangsters or :Category:American Prohibition-era and Great Depression-era gangsters, but :Category:American gangsters of the interwar period is a lot shorter. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:42, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
• :{{yo|Smasongarrison}} What category was originally nominated? It is currently listed as attempting to merge the (untagged) :Category:Depression-era gangsters into itself. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::Prohibition-era gangsters was nominated first. My apologies i must have mangled it when I added the 2nd category Mason (talk) 02:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: I will tag :Category:Depression-era gangsters. Consensus seems to favor merging that and :Category:Prohibition-era gangsters into a new category; what should that category be called?
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::I don't hate :Category:American gangsters of the interwar period. And think it does a good job of covering the defining features. I think we'll need a category description to help contextualize the category. Mason (talk) 19:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: dual merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ugandan dermatologists to :Category:Ugandan physicians

:* Propose merging :Category:Ugandan rheumatologists to :Category:Ugandan physicians

:* Propose merging :Category:Ugandan radiologists to :Category:Ugandan physicians

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry LibStar (talk) 01:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Dual merge, also to e.g. :Category:Dermatologists. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fictional characters who can manipulate reality}}

:Nominator's rationale: Way too vague of a category. I can manipulate reality just by picking up a piece of paper, since the paper is part of reality and I'm changing it. I suggest upmerging its more specific subcategories, however, this deletion does not imply deleting those too. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Agree on the category's vagueness. When deleted, then at least the subcategories should be moved to :Category:Fictional superhumans by ability. Not sure what to do with the articles though. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
• :They should likely just be removed from the category if it's deleted. In a lot of cases they may or may not belong in it anyway. For example, Elizabeth from Bioshock - does she "change" reality or just teleport objects from other realities? Such powers are hard to quantify, and can just lead to misinforming readers if people attempt to do so. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
• :* Ok, fair enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete This sounds like it's meant to be for characters covered by TV Tropes' "[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealityWarper Reality Warper]" item, but the description is incredibly vague and full of technobabble: {{tqb|{{category explanation|listing of fictional characters with abilities related to reality manipulation. These powers may be manifested by various methods, including, but not limited to: by some method of molecular control; by access to, or partially or fully shifting to another dimension; by manipulating the geometry of time or space; or by some other unnamed method.}}}} –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

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