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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Surnames of Malagasy origin to :Category:Malagasy-language surnames

:Nominator's rationale: These two categories seem to be duplicates as they contain many of the same articles. I don't care which one is Merged into which but I think we only need one category for Malagasy surnames. They also aren't very well populated but that's another matter. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge or reverse merge per nom. Both forms occur, so the merge direction can just be taken randomly. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:10, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nomination, as the target already contains all the members of the nominated category. Also redirect to discourage unnecessary re-creation. – Fayenatic London 21:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Piedmontese-speaking people by occupation to :Category:Piedmontese language

:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Redundant category layer Mason (talk) 20:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Thorough discussion; no indication that a WP:RELIST] would help. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose Deleting :Category:Historic buildings and structures in France

:Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OVERLAPCAT & WP:SUBJECTIVECAT)

:The official heritage register in France is the Monument historique and all that this category contains is the :Category:Monuments historiques of France subcategory so there's no navigational benefit to this empty parent category. And, if a Wikipedia editor added any articles directly to this category, it wouldn't be encyclopedic since it's so subjective. - RevelationDirect (talk) 18:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Background: We previously deleted similar subjective "historic" building categories here, here, here and here. Also, I moved two loose articles (1, 2) to the Mh subcat prior to this nomination.- RevelationDirect (talk) 18:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. The problem here is that :Category:Monuments historiques of France must be subcategorized under the parent category {{cl|Historic buildings and structures}}, where the naming convention established by sibling categories for other countries requires the form "Historic buildings and structures in [Country]". The rule here isn't that things have to be categorized according to the "official name" of the register that conferred historic status; it's that the tree has to be internally consistent within itself, so that the location of any related category can be rationally predicted by any user regardless of their depth or lack of inside knowledge of the "official name" of anything. So we can't just file :Category:Monuments historiques of France directly in the parent category, because it's out of phase with all of its siblings, but we can't just exclude it from a parent category that it needs to be in either, so this category must exist so that France has a category named the same way as its other-country siblings are named.
  There's absolutely nothing subjective about them, either, as the categories were intended for buildings that have been designated as historic by external authorities, meaning that there's no subjectivity involved since the official registers of historic buildings tell us what does or doesn't belong in the categories. They're not categories for just any random building that any random Wikipedian wants to throw in them on the basis of a personal opinion that they're historic, they're categories for buildings that have been officially designated and listed as historic by the relevant authority, and thus have clear and straightforward and entirely unsubjective inclusion criteria. Bearcat (talk) 18:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Only 8 other countries still have a sibling category we haven't deleted yet because they often are used for any random building that any random Wikipedian wants to throw in them, if they're used at all. In contrast, the less subjective :Category:Heritage registers by country tree has 55 countries in it including :Category:Heritage registers in France. - RevelationDirect (talk) 20:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::{{cl|Heritage registers by country}} is for things that are heritage registers, not things that are buildings on heritage registers, so that and this are not duplicating each other at all. And if the categories are being used wrong, then the appropriate solution is to clean up the bad entries, not to delete the categories altogether, because the categories do serve a valid and neutral and objective purpose quite independently of any misuse that may occur. Any category can have wrong stuff added to it at any time, so if "could be used wrongly" were a reason to delete categories in and of itself then we wouldn't have any categories at all anymore. Bearcat (talk) 21:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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• ::: We actually agree that the heritage register cats are conceptually different; my point wast that in practice they contain the same building subcategories. (As for the rest, I appreciate your differing perspectives!) - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge, there are only a few countries with this sort of category, so there is nothing predictable about it anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:45, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Transgender to :Category:Transgender topics

:Nominator's rationale: The subcategories under :Category:Transgender by country were recently renamed to :Category:Transgender topics by country following this CfD. However, the top-level parent wasn't included in that nomination. Suggest renaming accordingly for consistency and to avoid the awkward adjective category title. Paul_012 (talk) 17:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Rename Per WP:C2C, consistency with established category tree names. Language is evolving very quickly in this area though, so no objection to renaming this tree later.. - RevelationDirect (talk) 18:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Comment This would be also consistent with :Category:Transgender men-related topics and :Category:Transgender women-related topics. Web-julio (talk) 03:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:48, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:13th-century Somalian people to :Category:13th-century Somali people

:* Propose renaming :Category:14th-century Somalian people to :Category:14th-century Somali people

:* Propose renaming :Category:15th-century Somalian people to :Category:15th-century Somali people

:* Propose renaming :Category:16th-century Somalian people to :Category:16th-century Somali people

:* Propose renaming :Category:17th-century Somalian people to :Category:17th-century Somali people

:* Propose renaming :Category:18th-century Somalian people to :Category:18th-century Somali people

:* Propose renaming :Category:19th-century Somalian people to :Category:19th-century Somali people

:* Propose renaming :Category:19th-century Somalian women to :Category:19th-century Somali women

:* Propose renaming :Category:19th-century Somalian writers to :Category:19th-century Somali writers

:* Propose renaming :Category:19th-century Somalian women writers to :Category:19th-century Somali women writers

:Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent, the country Somalia did not exist yet in these centuries and it is unclear whether Somalian would include or exclude current Somaliland. So I think it is better to re-parent these categories, i.e. move them from the tree of :Category:Somalian people to the tree of :Category:Ethnic Somali people. For example in the 13th-century category there is someone in the Maldives who was probably an ethnic Somali. Fwiw, many articles use "Somali" rather than "Somalian" too. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::Lean Oppose. It may be a follow-up discussion, but that discussion didn't conclude that we should rename everything from a nationality( Somalian) to an ethnicity (Somali). Logistically, this rename would be incompatible with the templates its currently using. Mason (talk) 21:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::* Templates should be changed accordingly, of course. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom. PadFoot (talk) 13:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

• Rename all, and redirect C19 to aid navigation between centuries. – Fayenatic London 21:30, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Logos by country to :Category:Wikipedia images of logos by country

:* Propose renaming :Category:Logos by medium to :Category:Wikipedia images of logos by medium

:Nominator's rationale: rename to align with parent :Category:Wikipedia images of logos and to avoid confusion with :Category:Logos which contains articles rather than images. There are a few articles in these trees (not many), they should be moved to :Category:Logos. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom Mason (talk) 21:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::Support. If separate categories for articles and image files are desired, then this looks like the best way to accomplish that. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Museum of the Year (UK) recipients}}

:Nominator's rationale: Not a defining feature of any of the subjects. Not a particularly notable award. AusLondonder (talk) 14:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

::Question: you say its not a particularly notable award, are there notability requirements for categories? The article itself Museum of the Year has 48 references. I'm not very familiar with the rules around categories but this seems like enough. John Cummings (talk) 18:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

:::Categories use a somewhat different standard, WP:DEFINING, and most of the nominations here involve WP:OC. Hope that helps! RevelationDirect (talk) 22:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Clicked on several articles and this is treated as a passing reference; feels like WP:OCAWARD. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Carrathool to :Category:Carrathool Shire

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing only the main article and an article about a disused bridge, better categorised in parent category. AusLondonder (talk) 13:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Fiction set around Omicron Persei}}

:Nominator's rationale: Every item in this category is a Futurama episode; it is also the only media which is frequently set there listed on the article Omicron Persei; this category may be too narrow or small. Xeroctic (talk) 13:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|LGBTQ centenarians}}

:Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection under WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 12:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• :*Keep if :Category:LGBTQ people by period subcats are defining, so is LGBTQ centenarians. EGRS doesn't say anything on that matter, yet people blindly use it imaginarily thinking it does. Or at least provide specific quote or section in which it applies.
• :--MikutoH ^talk! 00:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::How is the intersection between being a longevist and LGBTQ defining? Your comparison doesn't make sense at all because LGBTQ people by period isn't relevant at all to the question at hand. Mason (talk) 01:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• :::Per request @MikutoH
• :::>Do not create categories that intersect a particular topic (such as occupation, place of residence, or other such characteristics) with an ethnicity, gender, religion, sexual orientation, or disability, unless that combination is itself recognized as a defining topic that has already been established (in reliable sources showing substantial existing research specific to the topic), as academically or culturally significant in its own right. The mere fact that such people happen to exist is not a valid criterion for determining the legitimacy of a category.
• :::Mason (talk) 01:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:EGRS. I also believe that being a centenarian is non-defining for the vast majority of people but that is a different discussion.--User:Namiba

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Kamyenyets to :Category:People from Kamyenyets District

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – I have listed the bio in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Zardab to :Category:People from Zardab District

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – already listed in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Sulam to :Category:People from Northern District (Israel)

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – I have listed the bio in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:24, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Athens, West Virginia to :Category:People from Mercer County, West Virginia

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – already listed in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:23, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Anawalt, West Virginia to :Category:People from McDowell County, West Virginia

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – I have listed the bio in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Lemington, Vermont to :Category:People from Essex County, Vermont

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 12:13, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – I have listed the bio in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Gazipaşa to :Category:People from Antalya Province

:Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 08:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. AusLondonder (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – I have listed the bio in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Thompson, North Dakota to :Category:People from Grand Forks County, North Dakota

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 04:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – I have listed the bio in the town article. – Fayenatic London 21:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:People from Kensington, New Hampshire to :Category:People from Rockingham County, New Hampshire

:Nominator's rationale: Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 01:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:23, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• Merge – I have listed the bio in the town article, and would encourage the nominator to do so in similar nominations. – Fayenatic London 21:15, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. A rename nomination where that is the sole object of discussion might find consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Lostwave to :Category:Lost musical works

:Nominator's rationale: "Lostwave" is basically an ill-defined currently trendy Internet term that refers to music of unknown origins, which can also refer to completely lost works such as Ready 'n' Steady, or songs that are only known based on fragments, which seems to be the most common as listed on the page. While it is definitely "real" insofar its a term people use and there is something of a community around it, the fact it isn't clearly defined to begin with, and almost completely overlaps with "Lost musical works", "Rediscovered musical works" or "Works of unknown authorship" doesn't really make it suitable as a category. Iostn (talk) 22:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

::Support per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

::Oppose. Distinct phenomenon from lost musical works, which are pieces and recordings of music which secondary sources can attest existed at one point, but no longer do. Support renaming to Music of unknown origin, which unlike the trendy "Lostwave" is a [https://www.google.com/search?nfpr=1&tbm=bks&q=%22Music%20of%20unknown%20origin%22 time-tested phrase in academia]. DigitalIceAge (talk) 19:28, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the rename proposal?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

::It's an improvement over the present name. Mason (talk) 22:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

• Merge "music of unknown origin" is a clear WP:OCMISC. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
• :I don't agree, unknown authorship is legitimate and different from a category for miscellaneous authors. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
• Rename to :Category:Music of unknown origin, this is different from the merge target and :Category:Songwriter unknown (nominated here). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:16, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

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{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Relisting comment: Still no consensus to keep or merge the category, but I am not seeing objection to renaming if kept.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• :Category:Music of unknown origin does not really cover it. The category contains rediscovered songs of temporarily unknown origin, except one article about a song of which the origin is still unknown by today. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women local councillors in Australia‎}} to :Category:Australian women local councillors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women municipal councillors in Brazil‎}} to :Category:Brazilian women municipal councillors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women municipal councillors in Canada‎}} to :Category:Canadian women municipal councillors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women local politicians in Taiwan‎}} to :Category:Taiwanese women local politicians

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women councillors in the United Kingdom‎}} to :Category:British women councillors

:* Propose renaming {{lc|Category:Women city councillors in the United States‎}} to :Category:American women city councillors

:Nominator's rationale: Change to Fooian/Xian per parents. --MikutoH ^talk! 04:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment, most of the above have Fooian parents, but Australia and the United Kingdom do not. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Question. Shouldn't these follow the structure of the parent local politicians in FOO? Mason (talk) 21:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::Oppose unless @MikutoH or someone else explains why the convention should differ. Mason (talk) 12:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• :::@Smasongarrison It shouldn't differ. And which parent of the Taiwan case you're pointing at? Because all of them are Fooian. The Australia should be kept, based on the other discussion. --MikutoH ^talk! 01:02, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::::And different from Commons and several Wikipedias, enwiki doesn't have :Category:Births by country. --MikutoH ^talk! 01:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
• :::::This category structure is what I'm talking about: Category:Local politicians in Canada and Category:Local politicians by country Mason (talk) 01:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Critics of veganism}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Critics of vegetarianism}}

:Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OPINIONCAT. Web-julio (talk) 05:05, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete, not a defining of these articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep both, because OPINIONCAT isn't really applicable here. They are not characterized simply because of a non-defining like or dislike, but because of a position that they hold. In that regard, there is no functional difference between someone who recommends veganism/vegetarianism, versus someone who recommends against it, so long as there is sufficient sourcing that the person has made significant commentary to that effect. If there are pages about people for whom it is a minor aspect of their views, so as not to be defining, that should be addressed by cleanup of the categories, rather than by deleting the categories entirely. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::Category:Vegans and :Category:Vegan people were deleted two times, but if we see, there's still :Category:People in veganism, but no one is there simply because they are vegan or recommend veganism. The same is true about :Category:Vegetarians vs :Category:People in vegetarianism.
• :While some say critics of vegetarianism are automatically critic of veganism, that's not true as there are vegans who oppose Lacto-ovo vegetarianism or are sceptical of Flexitarianism as well. Web-julio (talk) 00:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom (WP:OPINIONCAT). PadFoot (talk) 12:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|British music logos}}

:Nominator's rationale: Limited scope (contains just one entry and one subcat) with likely limited expansion. Exists without an established :Category:Music logos tree that also seems too limited to exist. Upmerge to :Category:British logos. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 19:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment, the parent category seems to be an images category, so it may not be the best merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:07, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Looks like a mix of files and articles (mostly in other subcats) to me. Do you think it should be pruned of one or the other? Split between the two? QuietHere (talk | contributions) 20:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
• :* I think all articles should be moved to the tree of :Category:Logos. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:19, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

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::If articles and image files need to be separated then sure, go ahead. I don't know that they actually do, but if Marcocapelle insists then I'm willing to trust them. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

• See follow up nomination. It may be a good idea to close this discussion only after the follow-up is closed. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
• :{{yo|Marcocapelle|QuietHere}} the above nomination was closed as rename. What are your current thoughts on the category? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:* {{ping|HouseBlaster}} the article should be moved to :Category:Logos, then delete the category. The subcategory does not need to be moved somewhere, it is already in :Category:British music logos. Based on the other discussion, there is clearly consensus to keep articles and images separate. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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