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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:15, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|People from South Lebanon}}

:Nominator's rationale: The only category I could find for Lebanon dedicated to categorizing people from a general region. Two subcats are for people from a province or in this case governorate‎ which does a better job of organizing bio articles on where people are from in Lebanon. No other region of Lebanon in Category:Regions of Lebanon has a subcategory like this. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/rename as nominated. Dealing with the subpages can be the subject of its own discussion. Pinging {{yo|Folly Mox|Marcocapelle|p=}} in case either of them wishes to do so HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Former Shu people to :Category:People executed by Former Shu

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Jin (Later Tang precursor) people to :Category:People executed by Jin (Later Tang precursor)

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Later Han (Five Dynasties) people to :Category:People executed by Later Han (Five Dynasties)

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Later Jin (Five Dynasties) people to :Category:People executed by Later Jin (Five Dynasties)

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Later Liang (Five Dynasties) people to :Category:People executed by Later Liang (Five Dynasties)

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Later Shu people to :Category:People executed by Later Shu

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Later Tang people to :Category:People executed by Later Tang

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Ma Chu people to :Category:People executed by Ma Chu

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Min Kingdom people to :Category:People executed by Min Kingdom

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Southern Han people to :Category:People executed by Southern Han

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Southern Tang people to :Category:People executed by Southern Tang

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Yang Wu people to :Category:People executed by Yang Wu

:* Propose renaming :Category:Executed Yan (Five Dynasties period) people to :Category:People executed by Yan (Five Dynasties period)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Executed Zhao (Five Dynasties period) people to :Category:People executed by Zhao (Five Dynasties period)

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Former Liang people to :Category:People executed by Former Liang‎

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Former Qin people to :Category:People executed by Former Qin

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Former Yan people to :Category:People executed by Former Yan

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Former Zhao people to :Category:People executed by Former Zhao

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Later Zhao people to :Category:People executed by Later Zhao

:* Propose renaming :Category:Executed Western Qin people to :Category:People executed by Western Qin

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Liang dynasty people to :Category:People executed by the Liang dynasty

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Liu Song people to :Category:People executed by Liu Song‎

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Northern Qi people to :Category:People executed by Northern Qi

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Northern Wei people to :Category:People executed by Northern Wei

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Northern Zhou people to :Category:People executed by Northern Zhou

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Cao Wei people to :Category:People executed by Cao Wei

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Eastern Wu people to :Category:People executed by Eastern Wu

:* Propose merging :Category:Executed Shu Han people to :Category:People executed by Shu Han

:Nominator's rationale: merge, the categories are largely overlapping. This is follow-up on this earlier nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

: {{Ping|Folly Mox|Omnis Scientia|Fayenatic london}} pinging participants to earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:13, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:20, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::Merge per nom. –BarntToust^(Talk) 21:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::Support merge as written, and provisionally propose further upmerging of subcats of :Category:People executed by a Sixteen Kingdoms state. A {{code|1=deepcat}} search [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=deepcat%3A%22People+executed+by+a+Sixteen+Kingdoms+state%22&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=1&ns0=1 returns] only 24 articles across all subcats. Folly Mox (talk) 00:04, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

::* Fair point, this concerns nominations Former Liang up to and including Western Qin. I am totally fine with an instant further upmerge. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:19, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:History of the Southern Nigeria Protectorate by period to :Category:Southern Nigeria Protectorate

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 20:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:19, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Wars involving the Republic of Artsakh to :Category:Military of the Republic of Artsakh

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer because the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict was the only war that the Artsakh Republic was ever involved in. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 20:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Articles with Add a Fact usage}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category should at the very least be hidden, but probably should be either on the talk page or be an edit tag. It doesn't belong in the visible content categories in any case. Fram (talk) 07:29, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::Hi. Thanks for your help with this. It can’t be an edit tag, because it can’t be detected automatically. Can you link me to a guideline for hidden categories? Thanks, ProfGray (talk) 07:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::* {{ping|ProfGray}} that is WP:HIDDENCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:40, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::*:Thanks for the link! But an ordinary (extended confirmed) user -- the target audience for Wikimedia's Add a Fact -- will not see a hidden category. So even were they prompted with instructions to add the hidden category, they wouldn't see that they had done so, right? That's awkward. I'd be fine if the category is restricted to Talk pages. Any other suggestions how to track usage of this feature? ProfGray (talk) 10:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::Delete. Tests shouldn't be conducted on en.wiki. I personally see zero value in this. Gonnym (talk) 12:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

::Delete. Yeah, that's pretty iffy. –BarntToust^(Talk) 21:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: procedural close. Was never tagged; going to CFDS. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Novomoskovsk Raion to :Category:Samar Raion

:Nominator's rationale: Due to the name of the main article of the category: Samar Raion. Yuriy Kvach (talk) 07:11, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. The subcategories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
• Speedy rename WP:C2D. NLeeuw (talk) 20:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: procedural close. Was never tagged; going to CFDS. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:25, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Novomoskovsk, Ukraine to :Category:Samar, Ukraine

:Nominator's rationale:Due to the name of the main article of the category: Samar, Ukraine. Yuriy Kvach (talk) 06:17, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. The subcategories should be nominated too. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
• Speedy rename WP:C2D. NLeeuw (talk) 20:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:25, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Geography of the Republic of Artsakh to :Category:Republic of Artsakh

:Nominator's rationale: merge, single-article category which does not help navigation. Former countries do not necessarily have a geography subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. NLeeuw (talk) 20:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge with a special sortkey. I am arbitrarily picking ~ (which will sort it after everything else), but others should feel free to adjust. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:College sports teams by university to :Category:University organizations by university

:Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer Mason (talk) 12:37, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Merge or delete per nom, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Maybe delete because the subcategory is by team rather than by university, but I am not sure of this. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• :{{yo|Smasongarrison}} delete? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
• ::My inclination is slightly toward merge rather than delete because team is still nested within by university, but like macro I'm not super sure about it. Maybe just add a special sort key? Mason (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge with a special sort key is fine with me. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Palestinian people by occupation. Elli (talk | contribs) 14:07, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Palestinian celebrities}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category is vague and non-defining Mason (talk) 03:01, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom, but merge to :Category:Palestinian people by occupation since the subcategories are all about occupations. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
• :{{yo|Smasongarrison}} thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:25, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::Sure. My understanding was that the user had merely added this category to the occupations, but merging is definitely the safer option Mason (talk) 05:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge/rename from "closed" to "nominated" "former". There is unanimous agreement that there needs to be a merge, but no consensus on what direction to merge. This is a WP:BARTENDER close; there is absolutely no prejudice against a rename nomination. As far as arguments go, the "closed" supporters argued that some things might be miscategorized as "former" when the articles are about places which happened to have been military bases in the past (as opposed to articles about military bases which are now closed). Those supporting "closed" disagreed that there would be ambiguity. Neither argument is particularly strong. As far as numbers, we have one who supports using "closed", one who supports using "former", and one who has no preference. Also a dead end. I am going with "former" simply because that was the original nomination; again, please feel free to open a rename nomination. Pinging Fayenatic london as requested to handle the sister projects :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC): updated 13:09, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Closed military installations to :Category:Former military installations

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed military installations of Canada to :Category:Former military installations of Canada

:* Propose renaming :Category:Canadian Forces bases in Canada (closed) to :Category:Former Canadian Forces bases in Canada

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed military installations of the United States to :Category:Former military installations of the United States

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed military facilities of the United States in the United States to :Category:Former military installations of the United States in the United States

:* Propose merging :Category:Closed military facilities of the United States in insular areas of the United States to :Category:Former military installations of the United States in the United States (unnecessary layer with only PR subcat)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed military facilities in Puerto Rico to :Category:Former military installations in Puerto Rico

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed installations of the United States Army to :Category:Former installations of the United States Army

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed training facilities of the United States Army to :Category:Former training facilities of the United States Army

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed medical facilities of the United States Army to :Category:Former medical facilities of the United States Army

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed medical research facilities of the United States Army to :Category:Former medical research facilities of the United States Army

:* Propose renaming :Category:Closed research facilities of the United States Army to :Category:Former research facilities of the United States Army

:Nominator's rationale: I can see no useful distinction between "closed" and "former". – Fayenatic London 07:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• Implementation note: Turkish and Vietnamese Wikipedias also have two layers, but they were probably copied from here and should be merged likewise, along with Wikidata items https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25233618, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8383568. Please ping me when closing this. – Fayenatic London 07:56, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
• Merge :Category:Closed military installations to :Category:Former military installations or reverse merge, I can't tell the difference either. Renaming the other categories obviously depends on the merge direction. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:20, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
• Merge, but all of :Category:Former military installations into :Category:Closed military installations. "Former" could mistakenly be taken to mean that the article is about the site of the previous military installation (possibly including after closure and current use), not about the notable period of military activity at the site which has ended. Thus I prefer "closed" to "former." After this discussion closes, there should only be one category, not two, definitely. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:57, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Propose merging :Category:Former military installations to :Category:Closed military installations
• Propose renaming :Category:Former United States military installations in Germany to :Category:Closed United States military installations in Germany
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military installations of Australia to :Category:Closed military installations of Australia
• Propose renaming :Category:Former Royal Australian Air Force bases to :Category:Closed Royal Australian Air Force bases
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military installations in New South Wales to :Category:Closed military installations in New South Wales
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military installations in Queensland to :Category:Closed military installations in Queensland
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military installations in South Australia to :Category:Closed military installations in South Australia
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military installations in Victoria (state) to :Category:Closed military installations in Victoria (state)
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military installations of Denmark to :Category:Closed military installations of Denmark
• Propose renaming :Category:Former forts to :Category:Closed forts
• Propose renaming :Category:Former star forts to :Category:Closed star forts
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military installations in Germany to :Category:Closed military installations in Germany
• Propose renaming :Category:Former United States military installations in Germany to :Category:Closed United States military installations in Germany
• Propose renaming :Category:Former military air bases in Ukraine to :Category:Closed military air bases in Ukraine
• I have no opinion on whether this is a good idea or not. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:Comment. The nominator is absolutely right about distinction between the two terms. However, semantically speaking "closed" implies a certain process that makes a particular object "former". Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:15, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

::Will there be a change like instead of "Former country" to "Closed country" in order to make everything uniform? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Aleksandr Grigoryev}} Absolutely not!

:::I commend {{u|HouseBlaster}} for making a full nomination for the reverse merge option. However, I cannot think of any examples where {{u|Buckshot06}}'s concerns would lead to pages being miscategorised or categories being unhelpfully misinterpreted. I therefore think that there is insufficient reason to use "Closed" as an exception to the predominant use of "Former" in this hierarchy.

:::However, there is another widespread alternative: "Defunct", which is used for 21 of 59 sub-cats in :Category:Former buildings and structures by type. Personally, I would prefer to use "Former" throughout, but some editors have expressed a clear preference for "Defunct" in certain cases, and I would not object to it. Would other participants prefer to use that word for military installations? – Fayenatic London 19:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

:::* Most importantly the merge at the top level goes ahead. I do not have a clear view on whether Closed, Former or Defunct is the most appropriate naming in this case. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Fanulena. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 19:14, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Lutilodix to :Category:Fanulena

:Nominator's rationale: https://doi.org/10.1071/IS22049 NotAGenious (talk) 14:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Is this source proposing a revision or establishing a revision? That is not very clear. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
• :From the abstract, {{tq|Furthermore, we confirm the previous treatment of Lutilodix, Parcolena and Dolapex as junior synonyms of Fanulena}}. I don't see why this matters, though, as it's just a move to the correct name. The pages in the category have been moved already, too. NotAGenious (talk) 05:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
• :* It does matter, because if it is only a proposal it is too early for renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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• There is no need for a proposal, as Lutilodix is accepted as a junior synonym of Fanulena and stated as such in the authoritative database WoRMS (https://www.marinespecies.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=818257). The category:Lutilodix has no longer any purpose as it has no content. Therefore I've deleted this category as a C1 - unpopulated categories. --JoJan (talk) 16:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
• I've restored this category which shouldn't be deleted until this discussion is closed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per subject-matter expert JoJan's actions to implement this discussion before it was closed. I trust that he knows what he is doing, and that this is the best way forward. {{T|Trout}} for doing so while this discussion was ungoing, but all's well that ends well! HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename to :Category:Hyperinflation. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Hyperinflations to :Category:Inflation and :Category:Financial crises

:Nominator's rationale: Duel merge. There are only two pages in here that, which isn't helpful for navigation. If not merged, the category should be renamed to Hyperinflation to reflect the topic category Hyperinflation Mason (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• It is populated better now. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

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::Definitely populated enough. HB, I was the one who suggested it be renamed if kept. Mason (talk) 02:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

:::Corrected; apologies :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

• Hyperinflations with plural s is not necessarily wrong in this particular case but I am also ok to rename it without plural s. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete both. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:32, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Furry stubs}}

:Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with little prospect of expansion to the required size. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for any topic of personal interest -- there have to be at least 60 articles to file in a stub category before it can be created, and for that very reason stub categories have to be proposed to Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting for discussion before they can be created. But this was never proposed for discussion, and there's only one article here with no prospect of finding 59 others quickly: the mainspace category {{cl|Furry fandom}} doesn't even contain 60 articles total across it and all of its subcategories combined, and what it does contain isn't all (or even mostly) stubs.
The template isn't as much of a problem -- the minimum bar for a stub template isn't 60 articles, as templates can file articles into higher-level stub categories in the meantime even if they don't yet have enough articles to get their own dedicated category. So I'm fine with keeping it if somebody can think of an appropriate higher-level category that it can be moved to -- but as a stub template does have to file its entries somewhere, it also has to be deleted if a replacement stub category can't be found. Bearcat (talk) 15:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete both per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete both since they aren't developed enough. –BarntToust^(Talk) 21:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: split :Category:Comics retailers to :Category:Comics book stores and :Category:Comics retailers (people). Keep :Category:Comics retailers in Canada. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:Comics retailers to :Category:Comics bookshops and :Category:Comics retailers (people)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Comics retailers in Canada to :Category:Comics bookshops in Canada

:Nominator's rationale: split, we do not usually mix biographies and companies. This is a kind of undoing of the result of this 2008 discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:48, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose rename. Support splitting articles on people to :Category:Comics retailers (people). I think we should be able to standardise around adding (people) for the articles about people. There are several others of these under :Category:Retailers by type of merchandise sold, and most are not book stores. I also think "bookshop" is probably not the best target name. "Comic book store" would seem to be the more common name, if anything. - jc37 12:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: I will tag :Category:Comics retailers in Canada.
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Relisting comment: Response to jc37's comment?
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• (as nom) Jc37's solution is also good enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 02:17, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Selena y Los Dinos to :Category:Selena

:Nominator's rationale: Eponymous parent category here is unnecessary just for a members subcat, especially since :Category:Selena exists. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 04:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose I had forgotten to create an albums category for the group's albums but the category no longer just has one subcategory. Dash9Z (talk) 01:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

::I don't think that is enough to warrant an eponymous category for the group. Plus, the Selena category serves the same purpose and is more all encompassing. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 07:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Two subcategories and Selena y Los Dinos in this category as of relisting. Is this enough for it to be kept?
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Relisting comment: See above relisting comment. More participation would be appreciated :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• The fact that we can still keep it together in :Category:Selena remains unchanged. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
• Merge per Marcocapelle. Not enough content to be helpful for navigation; interlinking should be sufficient. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
• {{ping|HouseBlaster}} I added more content. This category is helpful to navigate the albums, songs, and members which were in Los Dinos during their active years Dash9Z (talk) 16:07, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
• Thank you for that; I am now comfortable with keeping the category. As a note for the future, it is generally the job of the person creating a category to populate it appropriately at the time of creation. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:17, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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