Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 May 21#American diplomats
= May 21 =
== Category:Ghanaian musician stubs ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Ghanaian musician stubs to :Category:African musician stubs
:Nominator's rationale: There are only 32 mainspace articles in the category, when there should be at least 60 - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 23:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as it now has over 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 22:03, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Question, by what criteria are these articles classified as stubs? For example Ishmael Philemon Ackon does not look like a stub. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as it now has over 60 articles. -- Just N. (talk) 22:29, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Swazi royalty stubs ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Swazi royalty stubs to :Category:African royalty stubs
:Nominator's rationale: There are only 8 other articles in the category, when a stub category should have at least 60 mainspace articles - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 23:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:30, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Metro 2033 ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Metro 2033 to :Category:Metro (franchise)
:Nominator's rationale: Category is clearly intended for the whole Metro franchise, should be renamed to be consistent with the franchise article: Metro (franchise). Mika1h (talk) 20:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Hundreds of Halland ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Rename/merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Hundreds of Halland to :Category:Hundreds of Halland County
:* Propose merging :Category:Hundreds of Västergötland to :Category:Hundreds of Sweden and :Category:Västra Götaland County
:* Propose merging :Category:Hundreds of Närke to :Category:Hundreds of Sweden and :Category:Örebro County
:* Propose merging :Category:Hundreds of Öland to :Category:Hundreds of Sweden and :Category:Kalmar County
:* Propose merging :Category:Hundreds of Östergötland to :Category:Hundreds of Sweden and :Category:Östergötland County
:* Propose renaming :Category:Hundreds of Scania to :Category:Hundreds of Skåne County
:* Propose merging :Category:Hundreds of Småland to :Category:Hundreds of Sweden and :Category:Kronoberg County
:* Propose merging :Category:Hundreds of Uppland to :Category:Hundreds of Sweden and :Category:Stockholm County/:Category:Uppsala County (one each)
:Nominator's rationale: Several one-article categories that does not help navigation. Rename/merge to counties as hundreds still had significance after the introduction of counties in the 17th century. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Rename/merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:39, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Consuls by countries categories ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Rename to "for" * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:Option "of"
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Austria to :Category:Consuls of Austria
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Belgium to :Category:Consuls of Belgium
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Bolivia to :Category:Consuls of Bolivia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Canada to :Category:Consuls of Canada
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls of Denmark to Australia to :Category:Consuls of Denmark in Australia
{{collapse top|46 more Category:Consuls/Consuls-general for Foo in Bar proposals}}
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Denmark in the United Kingdom to :Category:Consuls of Denmark in the United Kingdom
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Denmark in the United States to :Category:Consuls of Denmark in the United States
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for France to :Category:Consuls of France
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Germany to :Category:Consuls of Germany
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Great Britain to :Category:Consuls of Great Britain
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for Sweden to :Category:Consuls of Sweden
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls of Switzerland to Australia to :Category:Consuls of Switzerland in Australia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:Consuls of the Holy Roman Empire
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for the Russian Empire to :Category:Consuls of the Russian Empire
:* Propose renaming :Category:Soviet consuls in China to :Category:Consuls of the Soviet Union in China
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for the United Kingdom to :Category:Consuls of the United Kingdom
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls for the United States to :Category:Consuls of the United States
:* Propose renaming :Category:American consuls in China to :Category:Consuls of the United States in China
:* Propose renaming :Category:United States consuls in Liverpool to :Category:Consuls of the United States in Liverpool
:* Propose renaming :Category:American consuls in Russia to :Category:Consuls of the United States in Russia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General in Los Angeles to :Category:Consuls-general in Los Angeles
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General in New York to :Category:Consuls-general in New York
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Chicago to :Category:Consuls-general of Australia in Chicago
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Los Angeles to :Category:Consuls-general of Australia in Los Angeles
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in New York to :Category:Consuls-general of Australia in New York City
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Noumea to :Category:Consuls-general of Australia in Nouméa
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in San Francisco to :Category:Consuls-general of Australia in San Francisco
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general of Australia in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:British consuls-general in Egypt to :Category:Consuls-general of Great Britian in Egypt or :Category:Consuls-general of the United Kingdom in Egypt
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Israel in Hong Kong to :Category:Consuls-general of Israel in Hong Kong
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in Hong Kong to :Category:Consuls-general of Japan in Hong Kong
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in Los Angeles to :Category:Consuls-general of Japan in Los Angeles
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in New York to :Category:Consuls-general of Japan in New York
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general of Japan in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-general of Norway to Australia to :Category:Consuls-general of Norway in Australia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Poland to :Category:Consuls-general of Poland
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of Sweden in New York City to :Category:Consuls-general of Sweden in New York City
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of Sweden in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general of Sweden in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the Federated States of Micronesia to Guam to :Category:Consuls-general of the Federated States of Micronesia in Guam
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in Guangzhou to :Category:Consuls-general of the United Kingdom in Guangzhou
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in Hong Kong to :Category:Consuls-general of the United Kingdom in Hong Kong
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom to Jerusalem to :Category:Consuls-general of the United Kingdom in Jerusalem
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general of the United Kingdom in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in the United States to :Category:Consuls-general of the United Kingdom in the United States
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of the United States in Bermuda to :Category:Consuls-general of the United States in Bermuda
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of the United States in Guangzhou to :Category:Consuls-general of the United States in Guangzhou
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of the United States in Hong Kong and Macau to :Category:Consuls-general of the United States in Hong Kong and Macau
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United States to Jerusalem to :Category:Consuls-general of the United States in Jerusalem
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of the United States in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general of the United States in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls to Lithuania to :Category:Honorary consuls in Lithuania
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls to the United States to :Category:Honorary consuls in the United States
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:Option "for"
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls of Denmark to Australia to :Category:Consuls for Denmark in Australia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls of Switzerland to :Category:Consuls for Switzerland
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls of Switzerland to Australia to :Category:Consuls for Switzerland in Australia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Soviet consuls in China to :Category:Consuls for the Soviet Union in China
:* Propose renaming :Category:American consuls in China to :Category:Consuls for the United States in China
{{collapse top|42 more Category:Consuls/Consuls-general for Foo in Bar proposals}}
:* Propose renaming :Category:United States consuls in Liverpool to :Category:Consuls for the United States in Liverpool
:* Propose renaming :Category:American consuls in Russia to :Category:Consuls for the United States in Russia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Chicago to :Category:Consuls-general for Australia in Chicago
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Los Angeles to :Category:Consuls-general for Australia in Los Angeles
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in New York to :Category:Consuls-general for Australia in New York City
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Noumea to :Category:Consuls-general for Australia in Nouméa
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in San Francisco to :Category:Consuls-general for Australia in San Francisco
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Australia in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general for Australia in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:British consuls-general in Egypt to :Category:Consuls-general for Great Britain in Egypt or :Category:Consuls-general for the United Kingdom in Egypt
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Israel in Hong Kong to :Category:Consuls-general for Israel in Hong Kong
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in Hong Kong to :Category:Consuls-general for Japan in Hong Kong
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in Los Angeles to :Category:Consuls-general for Japan in Los Angeles
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in New York to :Category:Consuls-general for Japan in New York City
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of Japan in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general for Japan in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-general of Norway to :Category:Consuls-general for Norway
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-general of Norway to Australia to :Category:Consuls-general for Norway in Australia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of Poland to :Category:Consuls-general for Poland
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-general of Sweden to :Category:Consuls-general for Sweden
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of Sweden in New York City to :Category:Consuls-general for Sweden in New York City
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of Sweden in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general for Sweden in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the Federated States of Micronesia to Guam to :Category:Consuls-general for the Federated States of Micronesia in Guam
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in Guangzhou to :Category:Consuls-general for the United Kingdom in Guangzhou
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in Hong Kong to :Category:Consuls-general for the United Kingdom in Hong Kong
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom to Jerusalem to :Category:Consuls-general for the United Kingdom in Jerusalem
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general for the United Kingdom in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United Kingdom in the United States to :Category:Consuls-general for the United Kingdom in the United States
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls General of the United States in Bermuda to :Category:Consuls-general for the United States in Bermuda
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of the United States in Guangzhou to :Category:Consuls-general for the United States in Guangzhou
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of the United States in Hong Kong and Macau to :Category:Consuls-general for the United States in Hong Kong and Macau
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General of the United States to Jerusalem to :Category:Consuls-general for the United States in Jerusalem
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls general of the United States in Shanghai to :Category:Consuls-general for the United States in Shanghai
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General in Los Angeles to :Category:Consuls-general in Los Angeles
:* Propose renaming :Category:Consuls-General in New York to :Category:Consuls-general in New York
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls of Bulgaria to :Category:Honorary consuls for Bulgaria
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls of Denmark to :Category:Honorary consuls for Denmark
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls of Lithuania to :Category:Honorary consuls for Lithuania
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls of Russia to :Category:Honorary consuls for Russia
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls of Sri Lanka to :Category:Honorary consuls for Sri Lanka
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls of Thailand to :Category:Honorary consuls for Thailand
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls of the Philippines to :Category:Honorary consuls for the Philippines
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls to Lithuania to :Category:Honorary consuls in Lithuania
:* Propose renaming :Category:Honorary consuls to the United States to :Category:Honorary consuls in the United States
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:Nominator's rationale: Inconsistent naming of the subcategories in :Category:Consuls, which this nomination seeks to adress. Some aspects:
:# of/for–to/in:
:#* [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Consul+for+Italy+in%2CConsul+of+Italy+in%2CConsul+for+France+in%2CConsul+of+France+in%2CConsul+for+Norway+in%2CConsul+of+Norway+in&year_start=1922&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 nGram] searches prefer "of"
:#* :Category:Consuls by country of origin favours "for"
:#* Article Consul (representative) is mixed (all three uses in the same paragraph): {{tq|the position of a consul for a particular country}}; {{tq|mentioned as consuls for Denmark, the Netherlands and Portugal}}; {{tq|consul of a foreign country}}.
:#* Ambassador categories are of–to: e.g. :Category:Ambassadors of Denmark to Australia
:#* Lists in :Category:Lists of diplomats favours of–in
:#* "of" may be ambiguous. It is possible to interpret :Category:Consuls of Austria as a consul in Vienna or Graz or a consul representing Austria in another county, which is not possible for the for–in couple.
:#* Consul to (city) doesn't sound good?
:# Consuls-general/Consuls general/Consuls-General/Consuls General:
:#* Consul (representative) favours hyphen
:#* MOS:JOBTITLE favours non-capitalisation of general
:#:Category:British consuls-general in Egypt might be seen as a special case as it is in a different time period.
:Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have a weak preference for "for" instead of "of" but most importantly the names should be harmonized. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- (Nominator) I also have a preference for "for". Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:29, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Consuls by nationality ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Split * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting :Category:Consuls by nationality
:* Propose splitting :Category:American consuls to :Category:Consuls in the United States and :Category:Consuls of the United States (and possibly :Category:American diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Australian consuls to :Category:Consuls in Australia and :Category:Consuls of Australia (and possibly :Category:Australian diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:British consuls to :Category:Consuls in the United Kingdom and :Category:Consuls of the United Kingdom (and possibly :Category:British diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Danish consuls to :Category:Consuls in Denmark and :Category:Consuls of Denmark (and possibly :Category:Danish diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Israeli consuls to :Category:Consuls in Israel and :Category:Consuls of Israel (and possibly :Category:Israeli diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Japanese consuls to :Category:Consuls in Japan and :Category:Consuls of Japan (and possibly :Category:Japanese diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Lithuanian consuls to :Category:Consuls in Lithuania and :Category:Consuls of Lithuania (and possibly :Category:Lithuanian diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Russian consuls to :Category:Consuls in Russia and :Category:Consuls of Russia (and possibly :Category:Russian diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Soviet consuls to :Category:Consuls in the Soviet Union and :Category:Consuls of the Soviet Union (and possibly :Category:Soviet diplomats)
:* Propose splitting :Category:Swedish consuls to :Category:Consuls in Sweden and :Category:Consuls of Sweden (and possibly :Category:Swedish diplomats)
:Nominator's rationale: Three types of consuls by countries categories exist: :Category:Consuls by locations of residence, :Category:Consuls by country of origin, and :Category:Consuls by nationality. The question is if nationality is needed; ambassadors are only categorised by mission and representative origin. In one way, consuls are different in that they are not strictly of the nationality they represent, but is it necessary to bring together the Foo citizen representing Bar in Foo and the Foo citizen representing Foo in Bar more than in Category:Foo diplomats which is the parent? Targets are dependent on the discussion above (#Consuls by countries categories). Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Split, per nom. A merge to "diplomats" can better be discussed in a fresh nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Split, per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:34, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:West Bengal Legislature ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete. This has been deleted by @The Anome, so this discussion is moot. (non-admin closure) TarnishedPathtalk 11:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|West Bengal Legislature}}
:Nominator's rationale: Only one extant entry. TarnishedPathtalk 11:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The article is already in :Category:Government of West Bengal so no merge needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Military leaders from the Tsardom of Russia ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Split * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose renaming :Category:Military leaders from the Tsardom of Russia to :Category:Military leaders of the Tsardom of Russia
:Nominator's rationale: Not sure if such a category needs to exist but it should at least be consistent. Mellk (talk) 05:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:36, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Split to :Category:Military personnel of the Tsardom of Russia and :Category:Generals of the Tsardom of Russia. "Military leaders" is a confusing term, I would expect them to be the single highest ranked officer of a country at a time. But that is not the case in this category. {{Ping|Mellk|Justus Nussbaum}} what do you think of the alternative? Marcocapelle (talk) 02:24, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- :Yes, I think that works. Mellk (talk) 14:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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==Category:Quranic scholars==
== Category:Individuals designated as terrorists by the United States government ==
:* Propose renaming :Category:Individuals designated as terrorists by the United States government to :Category:Individuals designated as suspected terrorists by the United States government
:Nominator's rationale: rename, consistent with recent discussion about :Category:Individuals designated as suspected terrorists by the Saudi Arabian government. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:52, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
::Oppose rename. If the designation is a problem then just delete. It is not a suspected terrorist designation, it is just a terrorist designation. Saying they are "suspected" terrorists would be false, and this would be inapplicable to any article, every article included would have to be removed. The Saudi case is different because the main page has "suspected" in the name (which I did not notice last time - may have voted differently). PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:29, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
: Keep per PARAKANYAA. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
== Category:Povorinsky District geography stubs ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Povorinsky District geography stubs to :Category:Voronezh Oblast geography stubs
:Nominator's rationale: There are not enough transclusions of the template to warrant its own stub category (there must be at least 60 transclusions) - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:40, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Novousmansky District geography stubs ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Novousmansky District geography stubs to :Category:Voronezh Oblast geography stubs
:Nominator's rationale: There are not enough transclusions of the template to warrant its own stub category (there must be at least 60 transclusions) - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:13, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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==Category:Ertilsky District geography stubs==
== Category:Bobrovsky District geography stubs ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:Bobrovsky District geography stubs to :Category:Voronezh Oblast geography stubs
:Nominator's rationale: There are not enough transclusions of the template to warrant its own stub category (there must be at least 60 transclusions) - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:56, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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==Category:Anninsky District geography stubs==
== Category:Jewish War Veterans ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose deleting {{lc|Category:Jewish War Veterans}}
:Nominator's rationale: Redundant category, since there's already :Category:Jewish military personnel. I don't think there's any other categories of veterans by ethnicity or religion. And finally, the capitalization made me think it was going to be about veterans of the Jewish War (i.e. the one with the Romans). Qualiesin (talk) 02:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
::Support in principle, but why not merge instead of delete? SMasonGarrison 03:01, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The article is already in :Category:People of New York (state) in the American Civil War. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 22:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:German fistball players ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:German fistball players to :Category:Fistball players
:Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category only has one player in it. SMasonGarrison 02:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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==Category:2020s Western (genre) film stubs==
== Category:2000s Western (genre) film stubs ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:2000s Western (genre) film stubs to :Category:Western (genre) film stubs
:Nominator's rationale: The stub template only has 15 transclusions, when there should be at least 60 to qualify for its own stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:1980s Western (genre) film stubs ==
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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 16:29, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
:* Propose merging :Category:1980s Western (genre) film stubs to :Category:Western (genre) film stubs
:Nominator's rationale: There are only 8 mainspace transclusions for this stub template, so there shouldn't be a category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:15, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:Czech Renaissance humanists ==
:* Propose renaming :Category:Czech Renaissance humanists to :Category:Renaissance humanists from Bohemia
:Nominator's rationale: rename, consistent with :Category:16th-century Czech people and :Category:17th-century Czech people redirecting to :Category:16th-century people from Bohemia and :Category:17th-century people from Bohemia. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure about that: most people of today won't even know the notion Bohemia (except specialist historians) but will know Czechia. Facts: Bohemia is indeed "the westernmost and largest historical region of the Czech Republic. Bohemia can also refer to a wider area consisting of the historical Lands of the Bohemian Crown ruled by the Bohemian kings, including Moravia and Czech Silesia," Do we edit Wikipedia categories for ordinary peoples' use and understanding or for historian specialists? Not so easy to decide. -- Just N. (talk) 12:43, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
:* We also have :Category:People of the Thirteen Colonies, that is not any more or less for historian specialists than People from Bohemia. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:54, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
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== Category:State elections ==
:* Propose renaming :Category:State elections to :Category:Elections in country subdivisions
: Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with parent :Category:Politics of country subdivisions, a more general name because not in every country a subdivision is called "state". Marcocapelle (talk) 14:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
::Comment - an interesting proposal. To me the word subdivision does not only mean state, it can mean anything on a local level. I think state elections refer to :Category:State politics. Moondragon21 (talk) 16:42, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
::Keep, I think subdivisions include a lot more than just "States", so the separation is valid. -Samoht27 (talk) 16:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
:::I am in favor of creating a separate category -Samoht27 (talk) 17:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
::::So am I. Moondragon21 (talk) 05:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Thoughts on the proposal to create a new category instead of renaming?
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::A new category is a good idea. Perhaps :Category:Elections in country subdivisions could include :Category:Local and municipal elections and :Category:State elections. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support unless there are a specific reason to keeps states aside. To categorise by name of subdivision borders WP:SHAREDNAME and I suppose legislative power varies around the world. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 08:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Rename as originally nominated per Kaffet i halsen. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
== Category:Women's football in West Germany ==
:* Propose merging :Category:Women's football in West Germany to :Category:Women's football in Germany
:Nominator's rationale: If this should be a seperate category from :Category:Women's football in Germany then I suggest to to clearly explain this in the top section of the category page. If not I suggest to merge both categories. Robby (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- I do not understand the rationale. Both the parent categories and the subcategories are about West Germany and I do not really see why any of them needs an explanation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 18:24, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Marcocapelle, also do not understand this. GiantSnowman 18:25, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 22:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC) (Even as it's a fact that female soccer clubs existed before 1990 (Germany united) there are probably not so many notable entries for a seperate 'West Germany' cat.)
- Keep per Marcocapelle; I'm not convinced by Just N.'s logic. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:07, 3 June 2025 (UTC)