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:The result of the discussion was: Dual merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Turkey musical group stubs to :Category:European musical group stubs

:Nominator's rationale: Should also be upmerged into {{c|Turkish musical groups}}, as this stub category has less than 60 articles in it. Either upmerge it, or rename it to "Turkish musical group stubs" per fooian naming scheme - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:46, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:00, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Dual merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Dual merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Nepalese dance stubs to :Category:Dance stubs

:Nominator's rationale: Should also be upmerged to {{c|Nepalese culture stubs}} and {{c|Dance in Nepal}}, since there are less than 60 articles in this stub category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:43, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Dual merge, not to :Category:Dance in Nepal because articles are already in :Category:Nepalese folk dances etc. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:08, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Dual merge per Marco. -- Just N. (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Nepalese cuisine stubs to :Category:Nepalese culture stubs

:Nominator's rationale: Should also be upmerged to {{c|Asian cuisine stubs}} and {{c|Nepalese cuisine}}; this stub category has less than 60 transclusions - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Not very necessary to merge, the category is now at 44 and may easily grow back to 60. If merged, dual merge, not to :Category:Nepalese cuisine because articles are already in :Category:Nepalese desserts etc. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:12, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per Marco's hint. -- Just N. (talk) 17:41, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Province of Lucca geography stubs}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Province of Massa-Carrara geography stubs}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Province of Arezzo geography stubs}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Province of Prato geography stubs}}

:* Propose merging {{lc|Category:Province of Pistoia geography stubs}}

:Nominator's rationale: All of these stub categories will likely be upmerged to {{c|Tuscany geography stubs}} since they have less than 60 transclusions - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:14, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 17:42, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

::*Lucca is actually 60+--Alienautic (talk) 19:47, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:20, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Rome stubs to :Category:Italy geography stubs

:Nominator's rationale: This stub category has less than 60 transclusions - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Not very necessary to merge, the category is now at 44 and may easily grow back to 60. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: The category now contains 75 articles. Do you perhaps want to withdraw this nomination, OpalYosutebito? Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 14:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
• :Go for it - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 16:52, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Ajmer district geography stubs to :Category:Ajmer division geography stubs

:Nominator's rationale: This stub category has less than 60 mainspace articles - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 17:42, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Municipality seats in Mexico to :Category:Municipal seats in Mexico

:Nominator's rationale: Natural terminology. The relevant article is at municipal seat. Moscow Mule (talk) 22:09, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::Support sounds good to me - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 22:42, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:There are also 31 daughter categories which, if this one proceeds, should be brought into line. Moscow Mule (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support renaming although noting that there are around 30 :Category:Municipal seats of Foo and three :Category:Municipal seats in Foo. Therefore, I instead suggest :Category:Municipal seats of Mexico as the target. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 10:04, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame}}

:Nominator's rationale: Created by a promotional user, also seems if this was a valid cat, it would of be already created, - FlightTime (open channel) 21:23, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

::Category was previously deleted in 2009, based on Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_September_23#Category:Hollywood_Walk_of_Fame. Schazjmd (talk) 21:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, User:FlightTime emptied this category which renders this discussion rather pointless. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:17, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete due to it being empty and redundant. ApexParagon (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:50, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Redundant infobox title param}}

:Nominator's rationale: This category is used to track unnecessary uses of {{code|title}} and {{code|name}} parameters in infoboxes, yet it is only utilized by a small number of comics-related infoboxes:

:* {{tl|Infobox Asian comic series}}

:* {{tl|Infobox comic book title}}

:* {{tl|Infobox comics creator}}

:* {{tl|Infobox comics organization}}

:* {{tl|Infobox manhua}}

: As the category's description says, "{{xtd|If the page is moved or merged the title needs to be re-added to the infobox.}}" Because of this, there should be no reason to mark these usages as "redundant", as the duplicated information is perfectly acceptable, as it is with all other infoboxes. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 20:34, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:22, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Nobility from Florence to :Category:Tuscan nobility

:Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OCLOCATION, apart from the subcategory this is about nobility of the (Grand) Duchy of Tuscany. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 17:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|16th-century Canadian people}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category for a single person, on a characteristic that wasn't even applicable to her. The person here was an Inuit woman from Baffin Island, which is certainly in Canada now but was not part of Canada as it existed within her lifetime -- and since France didn't actually start sending any real number of settlers to Canada until 1608, there really isn't anybody else who could be refiled here in lieu. So we don't need this for just one person from a place that didn't even become part of Canada until almost 300 years after her death.
Upmerging not needed, as she's already in other appropriate subcategories of {{cl|16th-century North American people}}. Bearcat (talk) 18:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete. Not a useful category. Meters (talk) 21:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 17:44, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge/split * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose splitting :Category:History of Moldavia (1504–1711) to :Category:16th century in Moldavia, :Category:17th century in Moldavia and :Category:18th century in Moldavia

:* Propose splitting :Category:History of Moldavia (1711–1822) to :Category:18th century in Moldavia and :Category:19th century in Moldavia

:* Propose merging :Category:History of Moldavia (1822–1859) to :Category:19th century in Moldavia

:Nominator's rationale: split, to avoid unnecessary duplication with century categories, and to avoid arbitrary cutoffs. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Split / Merge per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 17:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Band frontmen}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category not usefully defining of its contents, as it's effectively indiscriminate and virtually unmaintainable. "Frontman" is not a defined role in its own right, but is just sometimes used by music writers as an alternative to repeating the word "singer" over and over again, and thus there isn't a functional distinction between being the "frontman" and being the "singer". So essentially, this should contain every single person who is or was the lead singer of any band at all -- but just 14 (now 20) people have actually been filed here, and it's painfully easy to think of hundreds upon thousands of other obvious notables who've been overlooked.
Update: Roger Daltrey, Eddie Vedder, Chris Cornell, David Gilmour and Tom Petty, the exact five people I specifically named as oversights in the original version of this nomination statement, just conveniently happen to have been added to this category after I mentioned them here, without any real further effort to add any of the other several thousand band frontmen that I didn't specifically call attention to — besides those five, the only other new entry that's been added at all is Kurt Cobain. But since two of the five I did call attention to were Vedder and Cornell, that doesn't prove that the creator's actually making an effort to properly populate this with all of its potential entries, and just proves that they went "oh yeah Seattle grunge bands whoops bye".
And we've also seen (and gotten bogged down in) more than one iteration of the argument that even a "solo" artist is technically also the "frontman" of an eponymously-named "band" of session musicians (e.g. the time somebody tried to create an article about "Natalie Imbruglia (band)" as a separate topic from Natalie Imbruglia the person), not to mention the fact that even singers in bands often also release solo recordings separately from their day jobs and/or go solo after the band breaks up too — so it doesn't even cleanly distinguish between singers in bands versus solo artists either.
We have a longstanding consensus that we don't categorize singers for the distinction between "lead singer" and "backing singer" -- since any singer can be a lead vocalist on some recordings and a backing vocalist on others, it's an utterly useless distinction -- but this is effectively just "Lead singers" by another name, and thus doesn't escape that consensus. Bearcat (talk) 15:58, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• I Abstain from voting as no one but me has added to it, but am now reconsidering as I see that people have added entries to it. I have also added more entries as well. It seemed like a good category to create. Davidgoodheart (talk) 19:00, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete, articles should already be in the Singers tree, this is an unnecessary fork. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:30, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Dartmouth College Greek organizations to :Category:Dartmouth College fraternities and sororities

:Nominator's rationale: Match main article for Category. Naraht (talk) 13:35, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. It could probably have been listed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 18:05, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Activists from Fukushima Prefecture}}

:Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:01, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 18:03, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Upmerge to :Category:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam weapons * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:46, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam bomber aircraft}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. The LTTE only ever used two specific models of aircraft. No potential for growth as the LTTE has been destroyed. Obi2canibe (talk) 09:59, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom and WP:SMALLCAT.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Keep historical context. ÆthelflædofMercia (talk) 16:15, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

: Furthermore, it is not even a defining characteristic of the only article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:55, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Upmerge to grandparent :Category:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam weapons. NLeeuw (talk) 17:57, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

:* If not deleted (per WP:NONDEF) then agree with merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:32, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Rename/merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Women in politics by British Overseas Territory to :Category:Women in politics by dependent territory of the United Kingdom

:* Propose merging :Category:Women in politics by Crown Dependency to :Category:Women in politics by dependent territory of the United Kingdom

:* Propose merging :Category:Politicians by Crown Dependency to :Category:Politicians of dependent territories of the United Kingdom

:* Propose merging :Category:Politicians by British Overseas Territory to :Category:Politicians of dependent territories of the United Kingdom

:* Propose renaming :Category:Politicians by British Overseas Territory or Crown Dependency to :Category:Politicians of dependent territories of the United Kingdom

:* Propose merging :Category:Political office-holders by Crown Dependency to :Category:Political office-holders of dependent territories of the United Kingdom

:* Propose merging :Category:Political office-holders by British Overseas Territory to :Category:Political office-holders of dependent territories of the United Kingdom

:* Propose renaming :Category:Political office-holders by British Overseas Territory or Crown Dependency to :Category:Political office-holders of dependent territories of the United Kingdom

:* Propose renaming :Category:British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies in fiction to :Category:Dependent territories of the United Kingdom in fiction

:* Propose renaming :Category:British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies at multi-sport events to :Category:Dependent territories of the United Kingdom at multi-sport events

:Nominator's rationale: Missed by Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 March 29#British Overseas Territories and Crown Dependencies upmerge. -- Beland (talk) 08:08, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Merge/rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:39, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Music commissioned by the Hollywood Studio Symphony}}

:Nominator's rationale: I can find no evidence that any of this music was actually "commissioned by" and not just performed by the Hollywood Studio Symphony. It also doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of the articles/redirects, so hardly a defining characteristic. Fram (talk) 08:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Also, I don't see why an orchestra (especially one made up of freelance musicians) would commission pieces from/for a film soundtrack/score, it just doesn't make sense. Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 15:47, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Dual merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Aerial tramways in Armenia to :Category:Aerial tramways

:Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Also merge with :Category:Transport in Armenia.

Also nominating for merge:

• :Category:Aerial tramways in Bolivia with :Category:Aerial tramways and :Category:Transport in Bolivia
• :Category:Aerial tramways in Chile with :Category:Aerial tramways and :Category:Transport in Chile
• :Category:Aerial tramways in the Republic of the Congo with :Category:Aerial tramways and :Category:Transport in the Republic of the Congo
• :Category:Aerial tramways in South Korea with :Category:Aerial tramways and :Category:Transport in South Korea
• :Category:Aerial tramways in Venezuela with :Category:Aerial tramways and :Category:Transport in Venezuela LibStar (talk) 07:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:26, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

:* Comment Of course thus small population will force us to merge. But I'm considering that aerial tramways/cable cars are very economic transport ways. So in South America or Asia, especially in mountainous landscapes, there should be lots of examples. Which maybe either have no article, or no category b/c not found. Did anyone ever look out for that in Commons? -- Just N. (talk) 18:01, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

• Dual merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 18:01, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Argentina–Angola relations}}

:Nominator's rationale: No need for this category. We have :Category:Angola–Argentina relations. DB1729^talk 07:09, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Merge to :Category:Angola–Argentina relations per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Merge to :Category:Angola–Argentina relations since the countries in bilateral relation category names are alphabetized like with the respective articles. ミラP@Miraclepine 14:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
• Merge to :Category:Angola–Argentina relations per nom. -- Just N. (talk) 18:02, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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