Wikipedia:Help desk#Adding map thumbnail using external link

I'm reaching out because I am the Marketing Director of the Aharai! organization. I'm trying to translate Aharai's official Wikipedia page into English, but I’m unable to do so because I’m not a veteran editor on Wikipedia. What can be done? Yuvalaharai (talk) 16:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:First, you will need to declare as a paid editor, see the paid editing policy.

:You may use the Article Wizard to create a draft, but that the article exists on another language Wikipedia doesn't necessarily mean it can here. Each Wikipedia is separate, with their own policies. What is acceptable on one is not necessarily acceptable on another. You must show that your company meets our criteria. 331dot (talk) 16:29, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:Note also that no organization, person or movement has an "official Wikipedia page." There may or may not be an article in any given Wikipedia about a subject, but it is an article in an encyclopedia. To be bluntly vulgar about it, we don't give a :pruta what your organization has to say about itself, and you as its Marketing Director are overwhelmingly the worst possible person to be writing anything here about it. We are interested in solidly referenced information about what impartial, reliable third parties have to say about the organization, for good or bad. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

• {{find sources|Aharai!}} This is an Israeli educational organization, and it looks doubtful whether there is enough coverage in reliable secondary sources to have a standalone article. Please avoid copying texts from websites etc into a Wikipedia article, as this would not be helpful.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

The citation "Schauffler, Anne. A History of the Crazy 8s. 2006" is used for a lot of this article but I can't actually find it. Would anyone else mind taking a gander? I haven't encountered this before Sock-the-guy (talk) 22:32, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::I can't find it either. Its not on Gbooks, refseek or worldcat. Don't know what it is. scope_creep^Talk 23:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::"DANNY SCHAUFFLER

::: Danny Schauffler has been one of the busiest sax players in Oregon. Over the years he has played or recorded with Felicidades, Sky River, Paul Delay, Quarterflash, The Rockin’ Razorbacks, Dan Reed Network, Johnny Limbo, Tom Grant, The California Raisins and others. He was a member of Oregon Music Hall of Fame bands Nu Shooz and the Crazy 8’s. It was with the Crazy 8s that Danny became known not only for his playing but also his energetic stage presence. He is a high school music teacher and also books the music at the Lake Oswego Arts Fair"

:::I think they may be citing themselves, considering the last names and source #11 Sock-the-guy (talk) 23:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:I don't think this one Barbrick, Greg. "It's a Dog Eat Dog World." The Rocket: June 1990. February 18, 2008 exists either Sock-the-guy (talk) 23:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

The colorful and interesting geological map of Michigan Basin (here) does not have a legend indicating the meaning of the colors, without which it is not much more than a pretty picture.

I believe the map legend is on another page of the archived nationalatlas.gov website: [https://web.archive.org/web/20061002161208/http://nationalatlas.gov/articles/geology/legend/legend.html here], but I have not been able to find it already uploaded to Wikimedia (in my clumsy search efforts).

Would it be appropriate to add the map legend to the subject article (Michigan Basin) as either a 2nd graphic, or compose an all-in-one graphic containing the Michigan Basin image and the legend image? Harris7 (talk) 11:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Harris7 It would be better to add a (referenced) legend as text, which can then be indexed, machine-read and translated, and will conform to MOS:TEXTASIMAGES. The {{tl|legend}} template can help. Bazza 7 (talk) 13:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:As an alternative, you could upload the map shown as Figure 2 [https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9276/4/2/323 here] as that paper is published under a CC BY 4.0 license. At the very least it should clarify what's what. Mikenorton (talk) 15:07, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I'm working on writing an article for the company I work for. How would I go about it? How would I change the name of the article, so it say's our company's name? How would I add an image to the article for our company? How would I accurately add sources? Is it better if our article is long, or short for the length?

Thank you

David at Nexergy (talk) 13:29, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:@David at Nexergy It is always difficult to write about topics in which we have a conflict of interest and Wikipedia's terms and conditions require that paid editors like you declare this in a specific way described at WP:PAID. Once you have done that, you can draft an article to demonstrate how Nexergy is notabe in the quirky way Wikipedia defines that word. Please read all the linked pages before you proceed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:40, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

This looks like an immediate range of problems, including WP:PAID, WP:COI and WP:NOT. You would need to declare an interest if you are being paid to do anything on Wikipedia. It is also important to stress that Wikipedia articles are based on what reliable secondary sources independent of the subject have said about the company, not press releases, text from websites etc. Your WP:USERNAME is also a problem. The company may be [https://nexergyholding.com/] but any article should be left to independent writers.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:David at Nexergy: your username is fine. See WP:ISU for the details. The point is that only one person may operate your account, not, for example, several people who have similar roles in your company. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Once I disclose I am a WP:Paid Contributor for a company in the User Page...,

How would I write a Wikipedia article? Where do I go to write the article? How would I change the title so it is the title of the company? How would I add the photo of the company in the article? David at Nexergy (talk) 13:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Your "paid" disclosure need to go on your user page, not here. that's currently a red link but if you click on it you can create that page. Note that you need to say precisely who your employer is. The template {{t|paid}} can be used. After that, advice at WP:YFA but, as already advised, if you are a newcomer to editing you are almost certainly going to fail to write an acceptable draft because you will struggle to demonstrate that your company is notable. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::Also read WP:BOSS for useful advice. It says for instance ...Editing Wikipedia is no small task. Editing it while working for a company is even harder. There are many policies to comply with, skills to master, and research to be conducted. It is also of note to mention that most companies don't actually qualify for an article. Theroadislong (talk) 14:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @David at Nexergy. To sum up the major steps you would need to take (after making the paid declaration):

:# Find several places where people wholly unconnected with the company have chosen to write in some depth about the company, and been published in reliable publications. (Nothing written, published, or commissioned by the company or its employees or associates, or based on the words of any of those, will be relevant; nor will anything in social media; nor will routine business announcements like share issues, changes of personnel, or publication of accounts).

:# If you cannot find several such sources, give up and do something else. Your company is not notable in the way Wikipedia uses the word

:# If you can find several such sources, then forget every single thing you know about the company, and write a summary of what those sources say. Even if you think they are wrong, you are not entitled to say so here: that would be original research, which is not permitted.

:Do you see why this is especially difficult if you have a conflict of interest?

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} And that is even for editors without a conflict of interest. ColinFine (talk) 21:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia have an image API that we can set up in our database and use to search for free images? It looks like Bing is no longer providing the search capability. 216.255.103.250 (talk) 16:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Wikimedia Commons is what you're looking for. Most images on Wikipedia are hosted on Commons, except those with non-free licenses (i.e. those believed to be under copyright restrictions). [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=image The search tool on Commons] can be used to find images with explicitly free licenses - but be sure to read the licenses themselves on a case-by-case basis for any caveats. Departure– (talk) 17:00, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::See commons:Commons:API. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:24, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, there is an article about the region of "Angeln" in Germany. It is one of the regions from where the Anglo-Saxons moved to Britain, and it is the ultimate root of the word "English" and "England". I tried to expand the article several times, but there is one user, namely {{Ping|Zacwill}}, who keeps deleting everything I write. On 14 June 2024, they deleted all my expansions. Please compare the versions of June 14, 2024, 18:02, and June 15, 2024, 01:35. When I tried to discuss every single topic individually on the talk page with them, they had no convincing arguments for their deletions, apart from that they don't think that it adds anything to the article. They also came up with the argument, that it is not sourced. But they also delete things which obviously don't have to be sourced, like the "infobox settlement". After a while, they did not respond on the talk page anymore. I thought it was because they really don't have any arguments, and began to add content again today. Only after a few minutes, they again deleted everything I added, but still didn't reply on the talk page. It comes across as destructive editing to delete everything that someone adds, instead of trying to add sources. I would need a third party to try to solve this dispute. That user is the only one, who opposes and constantly deletes my expansions, and I have the feeling that they are not neutral and want to keep the article about Angeln as small, unimportant and ugly as possible. Their short answers on the talk page also give the impression that they are not interested in a discussion at all. I need a third party to solve this. Ephesos21 (talk) 17:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:(The Angles moved from there to Britain not the Anglo-Saxons.) Ephesos21 (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{Ping|Ephesos21}}, {{Ping|Zacwill}} is right about not adding uncited material, see WP:BURDEN, part of the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy, {{tq|All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.}} I would suggest finding sources before adding information. TSventon (talk) 19:39, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Something can't be right here. He also deleted very long-standing content, and not just my alterations. The whole article is practically unsourced. If i would do the same now, and delete everything that is not sourced, the article would be gone. I think, it is Wikipedia standards, to be able to write content without having to source every tiny fact. Only if it is an obvious lie, it should be deleted at once. All the other things would have to be tagged, and enough time would have to be given to find sources. Apart from that, this doesn't explain why he also deleted the "infobox settlement". This would be the first thing i'd like to restore, and there are no new facts which would have to be sourced. And this deletion of the infobox is an indicator that his only aim is to delete as much as possible, to keep the article short and the topic unimportant. So first i want to know, if he is allowed to delete the infobox with no new content in it that would have to be sourced, and second i'd like to know why it should be ok, that he alters the intro, parts of which were there since decades, and replaces it with a new self-written, much shorter intro, which is also not sourced. Thirdly, which rule prevents articles, which are not properly sourced from being completely deleted? Ephesos21 (talk) 02:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::::No, it's quite right. Again, you ought to read WP:V. More sources in the article would be nice -- Wikipedia is always a work of progress -- but that doesn't justify adding more. But no, removal isn't just for "obvious lies." In any case, once material added was disputed, the WP:ONUS was on you to discuss the additions. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 06:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::I think, if i write too long texts here, and also on the talk pages, the info is so much that i don't get appropriate answers. The user deleted the "infobox settlement" and it includes nothing which has to be sourced, and he simply deleted it because he doesn't like it. But i want to include it. Ephesos21 (talk) 07:18, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::Please follow the process at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:45, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

I have been trying to update the page to reflect the true history of insulated concrete forms. I do mention the company with the original patent (which happens to be our company), but it is not advertising or soapboxing. It is providing the facts. In the same article there is a reference to a foam patent by BASF which is also a company with patent.

Mr. Ollie keeps removing my edit referencing our patents, but leaves the reference to BASF. He also keeps in references to Werner Gregory, but removes the names of individuals that I provide.

We aren't saying we're better or that "Hey look at us". Just proud of our history which is factual and information related regarding patents.

How do I proceed here? Nexcem19 (talk) 20:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:First, Nexcem19, please read and digest Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure and do what it asks you to do. Stop attempting to edit the article Insulating concrete form; however, you are free to use its talk page to request that edits should be made. If you and one or more other editors disagree about the reliability of a potential source for an article, then please discuss its reliability in the talk page. If you can't get agreement there, or think that others should join the discussion, then bring up the matter at WP:RSN. (Note that reliability needn't be, and often isn't, simply yes or no. A source may be adequate for one kind of claim and inadequate for another.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Nexcem19. Please understand that Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything at all that your company wants to say about itself. With some minor exceptions it is only interested in what people who have no connection whatever with your company have chosen to publish about your company in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 23:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::@MrOllie see above Polygnotus (talk) 02:40, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I created the page Samvidhaan Hatya Diwas long ago, but I can't seem to find it. It has been converted into a Redirect. When I check the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samvidhaan_Hatya_Diwas&action=history History of the Redirect page], I don't see any of my changes, as if I never interacted with the page. Can someone please help me find it or any reason the page has been removed? I can't seem to find anything as the Talk page of Redirect page is inaccessible. Thanks! Waonderer (talk) 21:10, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

+ EDIT: I found an image that I had used on the original page when I created it. Image: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gazette_notification_by_Govt._of_India.jpg File:Gazette_notification_by_Govt._of_India.jpg]. This doesn't help me. Maybe it is useful to someone who wishes to help me. Waonderer (talk) 21:17, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Waonderer, you can see the history [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Samvidhan_Hatya_Diwas&action=history here]. (It's the history of "Samvidhan Hatya Diwas"; that is, of "Samvidhaan Hatya Diwas" with one "a" fewer.) Please do not attempt to restore the article without first getting agreement to do so. -- Hoary (talk) 22:04, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for the kind help. Yes, I always discuss before making significant changes. Apparently others don't. Shouldn't @Ratnahastin have had the courtesy to discuss the page before removing content and turning it into a Redirect? Waonderer (talk) 13:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Per WP:BOLD, no. But you can start a discussion about reverting that step, using the process at WP:DR. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:02, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I previously created a draft article about Dr. Majid Zihrabi under the username Dr. Majid Zihrabi. I understand this may be a conflict of interest. I would like to move the draft content to my new neutral user account for further development. Could you please help me retrieve and move the content to my user draft space? Thanks! Dr. Majid Zihrabi (talk) 07:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:Dr. Majid Zihrabi, regardless of your choice of username, if you write about yourself you have a conflict of interest. And a quick look at your deleted article doesn't reveal a single source that's independent of Dr. Majid Zihrabi. -- Hoary (talk) 11:26, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Saw her play Little Fawn on an episode of Cheyenne. Did not see it in her credits.0 2600:1017:B127:A11:68C9:6FBF:47FC:BAA5 (talk) 11:39, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:Is this a request for some kind of help with the article Arlene Martel? -- Hoary (talk) 12:00, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:According to [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0540120/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_epp_sm_1 IMDB] (not usable as a source), she played the Native American character Little Fawn in the Cheyenne episode "Indian Gold", originally broadcast on October 29, 1962. The table of television credits in Arlene Martel, however, is clearly not intended to be exhaustive, so the omission of this one, as well as a number of others, is not particularly remarkable. Deor (talk) 13:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

when I have some time I like to review and eventually edit random pages. I cannot seem to find that page anymore. Can anyone help please? Ermanno Shire (talk) 13:08, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:Special:Random will bring you to a random article that may or may not be in need of improvement. Alternatively, you can use Special:Homepage to find articles that you may be more interested in that are in need of improvement directly instead of relying in the roll of the die. Departure– (talk) 14:13, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

:See also :Category:Articles needing attention, from where you can navigate to subcategories more closely aligned to your interests and skills. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

I've noticed that the article Gian Maria Aliberti Gerbotto, which was [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pagine_da_cancellare/Gian_Maria_Aliberti_Gerbotto cancelled] last October on it.wiki, has been translated and published on en.wiki. Thea20071, who created the article, is the daughter of the subject (she has declared so [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Thea20071 on her italian userpage]) and she tried many times to publish the article after its deletion, against it.wiki's policies. The subject clearly doesn't meet the notability standards for it.wiki.

I think the article should be cancelled, but since I'm not familiar with en.wiki's guidelines and procedures I wanted to know the opinion of more experienced users. Thank you for your help! .agrimensore. (talk) 08:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:The usual place to discuss such matters on this project is WP:COIN, but you are required first to discuss the matter and attempt resolution with the editor concerned, on this project. I can see that no such discussion has taken place.

:I also note that, though the CoI was not declared on this project, the article was published by an independent editor though the AfC process; and that the subject is a Knight of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic, and hence sufficiently notable to warrant an article on this project.

: You should also notify editors when you mention them here or on any noticeboard or similar page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Pigsonthewing}} thank you for your reply. I need to ask confirmation about the notability issue. The subject is indeed a Knight of the Order of Merit, but only on the 4th class: is that really enough to prove notability? 33,442 people have been awarded that title.

::{{ping|Thea20071}} I'm mentioning you now since I didn't do it before. .agrimensore. (talk) 14:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:::I have given the article a quick copy edit to improve the English, but it would benefit from further work. TSventon (talk) 08:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

How do voluntary topic ban exactly work? I assume the process goes something like this: User:Example does some prolonged disruptive POVing on Generic American politican and gets warned by multiple editors on their talk page. User:Example is reasonable though and recognizes the disruption they've caused, so they spell out in text {{tq|I'd agree to a voluntary topic ban regarding American politics}}, skipping the creation of a huge thread at WP:ANI.

Is this topic ban still logged at WP:Editing restrictions and considered an official ban (i.e User:Example edits Generic American politician again causing them to actually be blocked)? Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:"voluntary topic ban" is self-contradictory. If it's a ban, it's not voluntary, by definition. The user is simply saying "I will voluntarily avoid...". If they then do not avoid, blocks are likely if the edits are problematic, but not guaranteed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

::Well, I looked at WP:Editing restrictions again and immediately found a section for voluntary restrictions including topic bans, so I guess I just needed to look a little harder. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 19:20, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Most of those look like restrictions that the user agreed to as part of a conditional unblock/unban/similar. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:31, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Is it possible to only show tagged edits that haven't been reverted in Recent Changes(e.g. only showing edits with "possible vandalism" but not "reverted" tags)? Currently I have reverted edits highlighted to visually distinguish them, but I'd like to be able to hide them altogether if possible. Taffer😊💬_(she/they) 18:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:I think clicking the exclude tags button applies to all the tags, so there's no way to specifically see edits with one tag and not the other. The only workarounds I know of are using the ORES edit quality predictions (very likely good etc.) and only viewing latest edits, both of which are filters, not tags. HansVonStuttgart (talk) 07:03, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Youtube is described as "usually not an acceptable source" -- but what about the case of a video where an amateur interviews a notable person? It seems to me that's a reliable source because it's the celebrity himself doing the talking (not the channel owner, or some other intermediary). The fact that the interview takes place on a platform where fakes can occur seems irrelevant since it's an actual first-person interview, and therefore you're getting the information straight from the horse's mouth, with no manipulation. Could an exception be made in a case like that? If not, why not? Thanks and happy editing, Chillowack (talk) 19:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:Youtube is a self-published source and should be treated as reliably as the person who upload it. AI deepfakes do exist on YouTube and for that reason among others I'd say don't use it in that context. This is better asked with full context at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard if you have any further questions. Departure– (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:: Thank you very much for your help. Chillowack (talk) 02:21, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:::@Chillowack Also Wikipedia has very little interest in what someone wants to say about themselves. We report what secondary sources report from a neutral point of Vew. See WP:42. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:12, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

I wish to start a list of democracy dies/ trump enablers individuals. A list of names with brief bio and actions they did/ are doing to end USA

and keep opening for global edits and additions Does it help I am a monthly $ donor to Wikipedia? I edit mostly in pop/art content. So I am very new to starting a content page LAURANG2020 (talk) 23:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:You should probably read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, and the WP:NOTADVOCACY section in particular.. Your proposed list is highly unlikely to be accepted. And no, donating money (which goes to the WMF, rather than Wikipedia specifically) confers absolutely no advantages regarding contributing content. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|LAURANG2020}} Also be aware that editing about post-1992 American politics has special rules; I'll notify you of these on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 09:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello. While finding an uncited source for Bamboo, I found the source, but the statement was directly plagiarized from the source. I want to rephrase the sentence to avoided close paraphrasing or plagiarizing, but the excerpt of the text is so short that I am having trouble rephrasing it. Should I keep the phrasing as it is or does anyone recommend for me to change it. And if so, how?

[https://www.pdza.org/zoo-bamboo/#:~:text=Bamboos%20are%20evergreen%20perennial%20flowering,areas%20and%20highland%20cloud%20forests. This is the source]

And the plagiarized sentence is "Most are native to tropical and warm temperate regions, but

you’ll also find some in cool mountainous areas and highland cloud forests."

Evilrh104 (talk) 18:34, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:Evilrh104 if you find text from Wikipedia online, it is possible that Wikipedia copied the other site, and also possible that the other site copied Wikipedia. The PDZA blog is dated September 18, 2024 and the sentences in Wikipedia seem to be older than that, so it is unlikely that we copied them. Unfortunately if PDZA may have copied us they should not be used as a source for our text. TSventon (talk) 19:26, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for your help. Would you suggest that the sentence be removed entirely? Evilrh104 (talk) 21:13, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:::@Evilrh104 There must be better (more academic) sources for that sentence but it needs to be changed anyway, as we don't address the reader as "you": see MOS:YOU. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

:::@Evilrh104, don't remove it. The mention of cold mountain regions came in the earliest versions of the article before the Wikipedia became so concerned about sources, as {{tq|Bamboos are found in diverse climates from cold mountains to hot tropical regions}}. It would be a mistake to go into articles and just remove material which was added back then. Since the statement is true, either just leave it or add a source yourself. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I would want to view all the Wikipedia articles excluding biographies, is this possible? MiniMikeRM (talk) 00:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:Realistically, no. It would take you years. DS (talk) 01:35, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:There may be some way to view every article excluding the ones in the "people" category. I'm no expert though. MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 02:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:@MiniMikeRM You may be interested to see Wikipedia:Contents/A–Z index and Wikipedia:Size of Wikipedia. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:49, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, there is a video game called "The Legend of Heroes: Trails through Daybreak", my question is about the capitalization of the word "through". On every single official page about the game, the word "through" is not capitalized, but according to Wikipedia manual of style, prepositions that contain five letters or more letters should be capitalized. Would this apply as an exception to the rule or not? JJJAGUAR (talk) 01:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:So, by "official page", are you referring to pages that aren't part of Wikipedia? Wikipedia has pages with The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak and The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II, and you will note that these abide by the "manual of style" rule that you have cited. Fabrickator (talk) 01:50, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::I was referring to official pages from the game creators (I don't see how Wikipedia pages would be considered "official pages" of any kind). And my question was precisely whether the current articles are well written. JJJAGUAR (talk) 01:58, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:Also, does the five letters rule apply only to the article name or also to every mention of the game in the artible body? JJJAGUAR (talk) 02:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::For an absurdly long debate on capitalising a preposition in a title, see this.   Maproom (talk) 07:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

{{atop|1=Correct advice has kindly been given. Further discussion belongs on the article talk page(s). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)}}

I propose merging Bhopinder Singh into Bhupinder Singh Thakur. These two articles are on the same person. Since there are more content and references in Bhupinder Singh Thakur article, I am requesting the Bhopinder Singh article to merge into Bhupinder Singh Thakur. Behappyyar (talk) 07:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Behappyyar To do this, please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Merging. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:14, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:Bhupinder Singh Thakur, which was started yesterday, should be merged into Bhopinder Singh, which was started in 2007. TSventon (talk) 10:21, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::Well, it’s not an absolute rule. Exceptions might apply if:

::*The newer article is significantly better written or sourced.

::*The older article has serious issues (like POV, original research, etc.).

::*The topic was split unintentionally, and the newer version is better scoped.

::Behappyyar (talk) 11:00, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

{{abot}}

Hello,

Can anyone help me debug the code of this reference?

{{cite news |last= Clerkin |first= Bridget |date= 2012-03-09 |title= Israeli martial arts takes hold in Bordentown |work= Times of Trenton |location= New York, NY |publisher= Advance Publications Inc. |page= B8.

Thanks in advance. Phenomenon 10 (talk) 11:59, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:Missing closing }}. Add that.

:—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:12, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Can anyone help to debug this citation?

{{cite book |last= Kahn |first= David |date= 2008 |title= Advanced Krav Maga—The Next Level of Fitness and Self-Defense |location= New York, NY |publisher= St. Martin’s Press |isbn= ‎978-0312361648}}

The ISBN is correct. Phenomenon 10 (talk) 12:02, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:There is an invisible left-to-right-marker character between the space character and the '9' at the start of the isbn. Remove that.

:—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:09, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm just asking, why is this 'Help desk' is protected within semi-protection, as I have already saw it? Isn't this page is no longer in protection in May 12, 2025? I hope any Wikipedia users can answer my question. Thanks. Rizky Juliandief (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:Many of the help pages are the target of an abusive user, and need to be protected from new users and unregistered users to prevent the abusive user from posting. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Is it possible to get two quotes in the same box, do you think? Something like, using the code at the template page:

{{Quote box

|quote = Cry "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war.

|author = William Shakespeare

|source = Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I.

|quote2 = He is a wearer of only one stocking.

|author2 = William Shakespeare

|source2 = Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene III.

}}

Obviously that doesn't work. Thoughts? —Fortuna, imperatrix 13:32, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

: @Fortuna imperatrix mundi You can place one box inside another, which might do what you want with a bit of tweaking:

{{Quote box

|quote = Cry "Havoc", and let slip the dogs of war.

|author = William Shakespeare

|source = Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I.

{{Quote box

|quote = He is a wearer of only one stocking.

|author = William Shakespeare

|source = Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene III.

}}

}}

Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:03, 18 May 2025 (UTC)