Wikipedia:Help desk#Moves from userspace to mainspace

Would a user named e.g. "Starfall2016" be blocked with the note that the username is too similar to the user in good standing (me) Starfall2015? Starfall2015 chat | about me 09:07, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:Probably not, unless it was used to imitate or harass you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

::I think we (at least I) would include in that calculation any editing of the same topics. I note there is a User:Starfall2077 registered in 2021. Coincidence? I recommend a perusal of Wikipedia:Editors who may be confused, where lots of similar usernames peacefully coexist. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 16:04, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

:::It also depends on whether the two accounts are operated by the same person. Nobody objects to the existence of User:Nyttend backup, because I'm User:Nyttend and I also control the backup account in line with WP:PUBLICSOCK. If the accounts have userpages that are quite different, again it's not a problem, even if their usernames are similar. For example, as far as I know, User:NE2 and User:N2e have never had any conflicts over their usernames, despite being easily confusable. The big issue is when someone registers a username intending to cause confusion, or otherwise intending to be disruptive, so merely having two similar usernames isn't a reason for one to be blocked. Nyttend (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::::On that last point, I can say that I, User:N2e have never had any confusion that I know of with User:NE2, despite my 20 yrs of editing and tens of thousands of edits. N2e (talk) 12:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I am fairly sure that the article MTV, Bota Essa P was translated from the Portuguese wiki by copy-pasting most of the Portuguese prose into DeepL, potentially with slight cleanup. To my understanding, translating other wiki articles is allowed, but this doesn't do it with credit in the original edit summary or on the (non-existant) talk page. Is there a recommended cleanup form that should be applied or other avenue that this should be posted in?

Thanks, ScalarFactor (talk) 20:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

:@ScalarFactor The general advice is at WP:Copying within Wikipedia, with a part about repairing insufficient attribution at WP:RIA. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks, I applied the template mentioned on WP:RIA and left a message on the talk page. ScalarFactor (talk) 19:16, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Someone just reverted my edit. It says in their profile they aren’t an admin, so- how do I report that? Strunkenwhite or The Modern Prometheus (talk) 06:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Editors do not need to be Admins in order to WP:REVERT someone else's edit. If you disagree with the other editor then your first step should be to take it up on the Talk page of the article in question. (There are certain rules about repeatedly reverting other editors within a 24-hour period: see WP:3RR). Muzilon (talk) 08:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:WP:COMMUNICATE may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:29, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Strunkenwhite or The Modern Prometheus. This is how Wikipedia is supposed to work. Please see WP:BRD. ColinFine (talk) 16:07, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm writing to seek guidance on how to ethically create a Wikipedia article. I was recently approached by someone offering to create a profile for a fee, but I understand that this practice conflicts with Wikipedia's policies on paid editing and conflicts of interest. While my colleagues believe I meet the notability criteria, I'm unclear on the proper steps. I need help understanding the right way to proceed, what resources are available for notability guidelines, and if there are any programs to ensure an article is created ethically, neutrally, and in line with Wikipedia's principles.

My name is Eli Joseph (born Elisee Joseph), and I was recently acknowledge for my invention of the extended reality (XR) book system. Elisee10 (talk) 16:55, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Getting approached to have an article written on you as a subject is outlined at WP:SCAM - {{Green|SCAM WARNING! If you have been contacted or solicited by anyone asking for payment to get a draft into article space, improve a draft, or restore a deleted article, such offers are not legitimate and you should contact paid-en-wpwikipedia.org immediately. more details...}} While this is not directly applicable to this case, it should be kept in mind.

:If you are the Dr. Eli Joseph outlined at [https://www.forbes.com/sites/janicegassam/2025/04/30/he-built-a-tool-that-turns-your-career-story-into-an-experience/ this recent Forbes story], note that any article on you is most likely to be based on the XR system you've created, perhaps reading like this: "The system, invented by Dr. Eli Joseph,". I don't see much coverage on this Eli Joseph beyond their involvement in the invention of this system - to that end, the topic of the XR system itself does appear notable. Articles are most often created by volunteer editors for free; however, paid editors must declare their client and that payment was received to comply with WP:PAID. Departure– (talk) 17:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::I am indeed Dr. Eli Joseph. Here is the link to my profile on the World Economic Forum (link: https://www.weforum.org/stories/authors/eli-joseph/) Elisee10 (talk) 17:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Here are the terms on the table, as I see them. Regardless of how much you're paid, the article should focus on the XR book system itself (and if it focuses on you, note that a WP:AFD discussion, or Articles for Deletion discussion, may choose to refocus the page on the system at a later point, unless you as a person are notable independent of your invention.); the editor team you are working with must declare that they're working for payment; and that you yourself should not edit the article.

:::Articles besides those of Wikipedia users (as sort of editor profiles, not normal articles) are under the coverage of policies such as WP:DUE and WP:NPOV (meaning giving content its due weight in the prose, and speaking on the material neutrally), alongside WP:V and WP:OR (which state that all material in the article should be cited to a third-party reliable source, avoiding primary sources where possible).

:::Note that, per WP:SCAM, any sort of additional charge to "keep the article up for X amount of time" is not how Wikipedia works, and assessment of notability is done by volunteer editors from around the world and cannot be paid for. You are free, however, to pay for a team to write or otherwise improve an article on your content, provided that it is notable and follows Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, as you have stated your intention of doing. I wish you luck on this, Dr. Joseph. Departure– (talk) 17:22, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you for the clarification. I’m not paying any services where I could have an article or profile of my work published for free. That being said, I spoke to another Wikipedia editor/rep through the help desk and he/she suggested that I may qualify for notability through the general or academic category. Elisee10 (talk) 18:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::: Eli Joseph has been protected so you will need to use the WP:AFC process and find an admin willing to accept it, please note it has also been the subject of an WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 18:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Note per what I've said above: The user who created the prior page at Eli Joseph most recently was blocked for undisclosed paid editing (see Special:Contributions/KibangaWiki). Again, Dr. Joseph, any team you're working with must declare that they're working for compensation. Departure– (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I would add, {{u|Elisee10}}, that even if not paid, anyone being above board should disclose a connection to you were they to edit about you, per the conflict of interest policy. Also know that even if they created an article for free, they might use that to pressure you to pay them for other "services", like protecting the article from deletion(something they can't promise). My advice would be to ignore any solicitations. 331dot (talk) 12:14, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Got it. Thank you! Elisee10 (talk) 12:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::Hello, @Elisee10. I suggest you also read WP:PROUD. ColinFine (talk) 16:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::Hi there, thank you for this article. I believe @ Theroadislong mentioned this article yesterday. 108.21.101.34 (talk) 17:06, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::I appreciate the input on this thread. I think it's best for me to ignore any and every Wikipedia solicitor or PR agency that promises to deliver a Wikipedia article profile of myself or my work. 108.21.101.34 (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

I need to change the page for the bank that I work for. I have change it, but someone undo my changes. The page has wrong information and a lot of information that is no longer important. Natacha Vale (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:Since you have a conflict of interest with the page Banco Popular de Puerto Rico, could you please clarify your position within the company? If you were hired specifically to edit the article, please see WP:PAID; if you are an employee of the company, please see WP:COI (and avoid directly editing the article; see Wikipedia:Edit requests for instructions on how you can change content you object to). It appears you're attempting to remove a large portion of the article, as seen here. Articles on the English Wikipedia are not owned or controlled by the subject of the article, and are written, with few exceptions, by volunteer editors, and all contributions to articles such as the one you discuss are invariably scrutinized under content policies like WP:NPOV (maintaining a neutral tone and not giving undue focus to positive or negative aspects of a subject) and WP:V/WP:OR (that all material must be cited to reliable sources, typically third-party reporting). Removing a large section of the article, especially one necessary to establish context to the company's history, goes against WP:DUE and should be avoided; again, please see Wikipedia:Edit requests for instructions on how to work with volunteer editors to change the article in a way that benefits the company in a neutral and unbiased manner. Departure– (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::I am an employee in the Corporate Communications Division of Popular, Inc. There is inaccurate information in the page that needs to be corrected. I am trying to change it and to edit some old information that is no longer correct or relevant. Please let me know what I need to do to edit the information without someone else revert the changes.  64.178.212.63 (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Claims within articles are not changed simply because a corporation does not want a page to show something. If you have any doubts about specific claims, you need to understand Wikipedia's content policies; for instance, reliably verified material (per WP:V) given its due weight (per WP:DUE) should not be removed, unless there is reason to doubt either the reliability of the source, the claim's due weight within the article, or if another, more reliable (typically more recent) source disputes the claims.

:::It appears you are attempting to edit the article as an employee of the subject, Banco Popular de Puerto Rico, and are not being directly compensated for your edits. Therefore, per WP:COI, you should not directly edit the article except through edit requests to volunteer editors. Alternatively, you could get in touch with a paid editing service; though, per WP:PAID, these services must disclose that they're working for compensation, and are expected to comply with Wikipedia's content policies. A request to remove cited information even to a paid editing service is likely to be disputed by volunteer editors. Departure– (talk) 18:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Information does not become "no longer relevant." If it was significant enough to be reported by reliable sources, that is an historical fact and will not go away. And "an employee in the Corporate Communications Division" of the subject company is a pretty much textbook example of the sort of person who should not even think about editing that article. See our article on "When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia."--Orange Mike | Talk 01:57, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::The CFO that is in the page is incorrect, the bank does not have an employee with that name.{{connected contributor (paid)}}

::::The bank does not have operations in Latin America or Central America. {{connected contributor (paid)}} Eloan does not exist anymore.{{connected contributor (paid)}}

::::The new President and CEO is Javier D. Ferrer (from July 1st 2025) {{connected contributor (paid)}} Natacha Vale (talk) 14:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Be able to Add to Alabama town names I mean they’re missing quite a few and they’re very Will known names like Selma Ala is not in your town names for Alabama just to name one.🤷🏻‍♂️ ArchAngel 1141963 (talk) 18:59, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:@ArchAngel 1141963 We have an article on Selma, Alabama. If you think that the town should be linked elsewhere or added to a category it doesn't currently have, you are welcome to do that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:08, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::... List of municipalities in Alabama already has it and is where you can check any others you think are missing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Our article on Selma, Alabama goes back to October 7, 2002, well over 22 years ago. Cullen328 (talk) 05:18, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Selma is a city, not a town; they're two different classifications of municipalities, and Wikipedia's category system distinguishes between types of municipalities; :Category:Towns in Alabama shouldn't have cities. Towns are typically smaller communities, whilst bigger, better-known communities are typically cities. Some may also be unincorporated, with less official status; you'd find some of them in :Category:Census-designated places in Alabama. Nyttend (talk) 22:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, a few days ago i expanded the article Ferenc Pfaff significantly - it now has multiple sections, 16 inline citations, several images, and over 700 words of content. However, it's still categorized as a "stub", and I can't find any {{tl|stub}} tag or template anywhere in the source editor or on the Talk page.

I've searched using Ctrl+F and manually reviewed the bottom of the article, but still can't locate the source of the stub categorization. Can someone help me identify where it's coming from and how to properly remove or update the article's classification?

Here's the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Pfaff

Thanks! TheVeryOldHuy (talk) 23:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|TheVeryOldHuy}}, there is no {{tl|stub}} tag on the article (and I beg your pardon for altering your comment to disable the stub template; else this page would show up on the stubs list). It is still listed as "stub class" on the talk page; that will last until someone reassesses it. You could ask at the relevant WikiProject if they can do that. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 23:48, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, Seraphimblade. Much appreciated. I didn't realize that stub status remains on the Talk page until it is explicitly reviewed, rather than automatically based on article length, content, or citations. This makes sense now. I expanded the article on Ferenc Pfaff with approximately 715 words, 16 inline citations, multiple images, and coverage of his early life, career, architectural style, and list of works. The content was primarily sourced from Hungarian-language sources and translated/summarized for clarity. As indicated, I will bring it up to WhateveraWikiProject you reccomend nk you again for the clarity and assistance. TheVeryOldHuy (talk) 00:26, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{u|TheVeryOldHuy}}, that article is clearly no longer a stub, so I moved it to start class by editing the wikicode at the very top of the article talk page. Any editor can do that, and I do so frequently. Thanks for the expansion. Cullen328 (talk) 05:24, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

: John Winthrop

I have added a file which is too big and has no caption. The caption underneath it should be: "Winthrop meets with a Narragansett Native American warrior, c1631-1639. Behind Winthrop are Revs. Skipper and Whiting"

Thank you in advance

49.199.153.245 (talk) 00:37, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Fixed. You just needed to add the thumb option to display the caption and thumbnail. If you ever need other help, Help:Pictures has some guidance you can use. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 03:14, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:

:Am I mistaken in thinking that the image is protected under copyright per paragraph 3 at https://www.mediastorehouse.com.au/terms.html and so should not have been uploaded to MediaWiki servers?

:—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:15, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::The image appears to be a colorized version of a [https://archive.org/details/cassellshistoryo01olli/page/108/mode/1up line drawing] originally published in a 19th century work, Cassell's History of the United States. While the B&W original is clearly public domain, whether a new copyright can be claimed for a colorized reproduction is a debatable point on Wikimedia. At the very least, I think the claimed license of "CC-0" is probably not quite correct. Muzilon (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I have posted opened a discussion on WP:ANI regarding misconduct from another user. It has been several days, and other editors have also spoke out about said user's misconduct, though there seems to be no admin response yet. How long will this take? Thehistorianisaac (talk) 05:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Nobody's required to respond to an ANI request, so the simple answer is that there's no firm answer. That said, I see people have engaged with the thread. It's possible nobody feels they have anything further to say in response to the additional comments you've made, but you could always request additional opinions...though I'd probably wait at least 48 hours before doing so (inactive but open discussions won't be archived for 72 hours). DonIago (talk) 06:16, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::Oh ok.

::By the way i think my question was phrased badly, "Typically how long does it take for administrator intervention on ANI?" would be better. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 07:04, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:::There is a range of possibilities from admin involvement after a few minutes to no admin involvement and the thread being archived after 72 hours. You have started discussions about the same user on 16 June and 18 June, so it is possible that admins don't feel they need to get involved at present. TSventon (talk) 07:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

The retention method of the help desk has changed from 2025.

Please tell me...

1. why it has changed
2. how to retain by date

Whatback11 (talk) 10:58, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Whatback11, see Wikipedia talk:Help desk#archiving woes. The archiving bot stopped working, so it was decided to switch to item by item archiving, which does not use date headers. TSventon (talk) 14:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

The word black magic it needs to be censored it's a racist word to discriminate against black people. 2607:FEA8:79CD:FF60:C8:BC:82D1:E431 (talk) 16:55, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia is not censored for any reason. If you read black magic, it has nothing to do with black people. 331dot (talk) 17:01, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::Adding on to this reply - Wikipedia articles are not censored for any reasons besides the direct discretion of the WMF and for illegal content. Pages are not censored simply for being discriminatory, or covering discriminatory content. For example, the English Wikipedia has pages on Slavery in the United States and The Holocaust. These are, as all articles on the project, written solely from a neutral point of view as informative pieces, and do not, themselves, form an endorsement or otherwise condone the subject matter. If you have any knowledge on why Black magic as a term has any association with discrimination against any group, and can back up that claim with reliable sources, feel free to add it to the article. Departure– (talk) 20:16, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:That is not true. Just because black magic is "evil" and "selfish" and has the word "black" in it, it doesn't make it racist. Anyways, you can't censor it. Rafael Hello! 02:40, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=250&offset=0&profile=default&search=radiogoldindex&title=Special:Search&ns0=1 RadioGOLDINdex] has 241 Results

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.radiogoldindex.com/ Copyright, J. David Goldin

now:

http://radiogoldin.library.umkc.edu/

Piñanana (talk) 20:35, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:I believe you're looking for Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests. Departure– (talk) 21:19, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

How do I created a wikipedia page Itsmeso (talk) 21:47, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Itsmeso.

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}}

:One of the reasons I talk about creating an article rather than a page is that "creating a page" sounds quite simple, but creating an acceptable encyclopaedia article is anything but simple.

:If you insist on going ahead before getting the experience, what I will say is that first, before you write so much as a single word, you should find the independent reliable sources, and check that each one of them satisfies all the criteria in WP:42. Only when you have at least three such sources is there any point in creating a draft and starting to write; because if you cannot find those sources, it is likely that your chosen subject does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and no article is possible. ColinFine (talk) 22:00, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Is Wikipedia an allowed place to get information for an article? Rafael Hello! 01:49, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:See WP:CIRCULAR. You should not normally quote Wikipedia article A as a citation for a statement in Wikipedia article B. If you're using Wikipedia to write an article for non-Wikipedia purposes (e.g. a paper for school/university), it's always a good idea to check the citations carefully. Muzilon (talk) 05:54, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:Since every statement in a Wikipedia article is meant to be cited to a reliable source, what you can do is:

:* Find the specific statement in the existing article that you want to use as a source

:* Look at the end of the phrase, sentence, or paragraph for a citation reference, which should provide the information you need to find the original source for the statement

:* Find a copy of the original source (typically either online, or at a library)

:* Read the original source to understand what it actually says about the topic

:* Reference the original source in another Wikipedia article (or news article, or academic essay, or whatever it is you're writing).

:-- Avocado (talk) 12:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Ref number 96 - I failed to place the two page numbers correctly and they are now written in red. Please fix and please leave in the quote. Thank you. 49.199.153.245 (talk) 09:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{done}}. You needed "pages=634,635", not "pp. 634, 635". Maproom (talk) 11:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I followed the wiki page Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Boldface I did ‘’’Yes’’’ and it didn't work I then copied what the other comments in a rfc page did by looking in the code and added a , after it and a * before it and it still hasn't worked. GothicGolem29 (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:Well, first of all, just about anything you do in Wikipedia, there will be a strip at the top of the box you're doing it in. The first thing in that box is a bold, capital "B". While you're in the text box, click on that, and wherever you are in the box will appear Bold text. Replace "Bold text" with whatever you want bold. If you type something and then decide you want to bold it, highlight whatever you want to bold, and click that B. Alternatively, you can just type three single quote marks (') before and after whatever you want to bold.

:Next lesson: How did I type Bold text above (and now, here) without bolding it. Uporządnicki (talk) 22:52, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks I really appreciate it I managed to find the B above the comment box in the talk page. I tried the manual way with ‘’’yes’’’ before including in my comment in this post and now but it didn't work.

:No idea that looks like how it was done in the wiki Manual of Style/formatting paye GothicGolem29 (talk) 23:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::@GothicGolem29 The problem is that instead of a straight apostrophe ('), you're typing curly quotation marks (‘) Either this is something your computer is doing to you, or you're pressing the wrong key. Note the difference between ‘’’Yes’’’ and Yes. You want the second one.Cremastra (talk) 23:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Your browser or device probably has an automatic feature converting straight apostrophes to curly apostrophes. It may be called "smart quotes" with an option to disable it somewhere. We may be able to help more if you name the browser and device. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:25, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

::::I managed to find it after reading your comment snd the above one I have to hold down on the quotation and it brings it up so it has some auto hide feature that means I have to hold down on the curly apostrophe to find the right one so thanks GothicGolem29 (talk) 23:38, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I meant the general software settings may have an option to permanently disable "smart quotes". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Thanks it did and I disabled it GothicGolem29 (talk) 00:46, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::thanks I managed to find the right ' it was a bit hidden on my device GothicGolem29 (talk) 23:35, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I want to make a list article. Are they encyclopedic like normal articles? Rafael Hello! 01:45, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello @Rafaelthegreat. Yes, list articles are encyclopaedic. The main difference is that they talk about many different items that are under a common banner, like a musician's tours or the prime ministers of a particular country. The main part of the article is, obviously, the list, but there should still be some introductory information and context. I've seen list articles that, for the most part, are formatted more like regular articles. TheDowningStreetCat (talk) 02:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Rafaelthegreat There is quite a lot of content guidance for lists at WP:Stand-alone lists, so you should start by reading that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi there, my name is James Callaghan. I am a pupil at Kilmarnock Academy. I changed the "Kilmarnock Academy" article to show the change in the schools leadership role of Head Teacher. David Rose is still current Head Teacher but has gone to another school to become Acting Head Teacher there. Angela Brownlie has become Acting Head Teacher at Kilmarnock Academy. I was changing the article to show the previous statement however my change was reverted and was told by I presume a moderator called "Sweetebena" that my addition "did not appear constructive". Can I please have help on why my change was reverted as I think it was a perfectly fine addition to the schools article. 2A02:C7C:D075:7E00:C1A8:41BC:40C4:A132 (talk) 01:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:(i) Thank you for trying to keep the article up to date, James. You provide no evidence for the assertion that A.B. is the acting head teacher. Please add a reference. (See Help:Referencing for beginners). (ii) I strongly suggest that you choose a username and are logged in when you edit. Doing so helps to give your fellow editors the impression that you have a reputation for integrity that you'd like to protect -- so your edits are slightly less likely to be whimsical. (iii) On {{Olive|Angela Brownlie, whom is part of Kilmarnock Academy's Depute Head Staff, is now in the role of Acting Head Teacher at Kilmarnock Academy}}, some simple advice for the word whom: Simply don't use it, anywhere. In "whom is part of Kilmarnock Academy", it's not appropriate; but even in "whom Kilmarnock Academy employs", where it is appropriate, who can be used in its place. -- Hoary (talk) 03:59, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::Whom is perfectly a good and correct word, in the right place. The rule for its use is to see if replacing "whom" with "him" (or "her") works: "her is part of Kilmarnock Academy" is clearly wrong; but "Kilmarnock Academy employs her" is OK.

::If you would use "he" or "she", then use "who". A good mnemonic is that "him" and "whom" both have an "m", hence my emphasis on "him" not "her". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you, James, for your good faith effort to use the object pronoun "whom". Please review the grammar and continue to use the word. Applying vocabulary and grammar is the only way to avoid the dumbing down of the English language. I suggest an excellent small book "The Transitive Vampire" by Karen Elizabeth Gordon. I am not immune to mistakes so I keep a copy handy.

:.

:Your attempt to improve the article brought Kilmarnock Academy to my attention, so I now know a little about your school. For example, I didn't know that Sir Alexander Fleming had been a pupil. One improvement I would appreciate is having the dates of birth and death included for people in the "notable pupils" list. It saves me having to follow a link to determine whether they were active in the century that particularly interests me.

:.

:Humpster (talk) 08:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors may be of interest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:On the notion that English is somehow being dumbed down, see page 1 of [https://archive.org/details/standardofusagei00lounrich/page/n15/mode/2up this century-old book]. The fact that whom is appropriate in a particular context doesn't make its use there obligatory. I'm wary of pushing anyone in the direction of studying grammar; but I welcome curiosity about it, and for those who are curious about this minor matter I recommend [http://random-idea-english.blogspot.com/2014/01/whom-watch-4-on-messrs-gwynne-lowth.html this blog post] by one Warsaw Will. -- Hoary (talk) 05:56, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

hi a group of nascar fans are making the 2025 in season toruney bracket, but we cant fill it in, here is the bracket and how the seeding goes is 1 vs 32, 2 vs 31, 3 vs 30, etc etc. ty !! :) 45BearsFan (talk) 01:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:i already added the drivers to the bracket by there seed Brycenrichter (talk) 03:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

When creating a list article showing types of something, is it okay to make it when the main article shows types of something, but you can write it in a list format? Rafael Hello! 03:07, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{U|Rafaelthegreat}}, are you perhaps asking: {{Olive|When contemplating the creation of a list article showing the types of XYZ, is it okay to go ahead and create it when the main article on XYZ shows the types of XYZ, but when you can write much the same content, and little more, as a list?}}? If so, then what you're proposing is a redundant content fork; so no, going ahead is not okay. If you're sure that in time you'll be able to add a number of worthwhile items that don't appear in the main article, you could create it as a draft and submit it once you've added those worthwhile items. -- Hoary (talk) 04:22, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Is there a way to force a line break in a lengthy explanatory footnote?

Humpster (talk) 07:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Yes: If all you want is a line break, then
. -- Hoary (talk) 08:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello Folks, I recived a notfication in my wikipeida account that says "PDoro‬ sent you an email. Hi dear Koolkrazy! I am from Poland and I am a music....."

But I dnt know where to read the full notification.

Kindly help me to find out what that notification is? --KoolKrazy (Talk To Me!) 15:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Koolkrazy If you were notified within the Wikipedia application that you have been sent an email, then the actual email will be available at your registered email address, which is set up in your preferences: see Special:Preferences under "email options". Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::... you can check back on the notification at Special:Notifications but only the truncated message will be there. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I think this edit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Great_Wall_of_China&diff=1296994864&oldid=1296994346

was correct except one word. bbc did not use a word beginning with "mong...", they wrote about "workers". The wikipedia contributor writes "Mongolians" instead. The contributor seems to have no prove for this detail. Is this derogative? I am en-2, not sure about en Wiki Policies and guidelines. (I yet corrected it) --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 16:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:The Artnet source says "The suspects were identified earlier this month as a 38-year-old man named Zheng and a 55-year-old woman named Wang, both from the Chinese autonomous region of Inner Mongolia."[https://news.artnet.com/art-world-archives/arrested-great-wall-of-china-shortcut-2368758] This probably means that they were Mongolian citizens, but the wording in the Wikipedia article could be tidied up to make this clear.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::Residents of the Chinese autonomous region of Inner Mongolia are likely to be Chinese citizens. Also they are mostly ethnic Chinese, according to the article. TSventon (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:I'm not aware of "Mongolian" being a derogatory term, fwiw. It's literally the name of a nationality. "Mongoloid", a term that was once used to describe people with trisomy 21, is now considered highly derogatory, but that's a different word. Is "Mongolian" now considered derogatory in some context? -- Avocado (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::Maybe my en-2 results in incorrect wording. My idea was whether attributing (ascribing?) a stupid action to a ethnic minority whithout having a proof who committed it is derogative against the minority. The original bbc source did not write anything about the workers' ethnicity or ethnic descent. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 04:10, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Ah, got it. Yes, I agree that the diff you provided could have been worded better in that regard. -- Avocado (talk) 12:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I would like a professional page made for my son Toya6348 (talk) 18:12, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia does not write articles on demand, but you can prepare a really good page for someone without knowledge of HTML code at https://www.wix.com/ Cambalachero (talk) 18:29, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::I’m not familiar with the process I need help with it Toya6348 (talk) 18:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::What do you mean by a 'professional page'? And are you referring to something intended for Wikipedia? AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Just click "get started" at the top right of the Wix page, and it will provide tutorials. Cambalachero (talk) 18:40, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Toya6348.

:I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is and how it works.

:If appropriate sources exist to establish that your son meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability (and only in that case), then there could be a Wikipedia article about him. Irrespective of who creates the article, it will not belong to him or to you, it will not be controlled by him or by you, and it will not necessarily say what you or he want it to say. As far as Wikipedia is concerned, it will not be in any way for his benefit (or his detriment), though of course the subjects of articles often do get some benefit from articles about them. Please see WP:PROUD.

:It should be a neutral summary of what several people wholly unconnected with you or him have chosen to publish about him in reliable publications, and very little else: in particular, what he says or wants to say about himself (and what you say or want to say about him) is of very little relevance or interest to Wikipedia.

:As his father, you would have a conflict of interest in writing about him: you are not forbidden to do so, but there are some restrictions, and the task is harder than when you have no conflict of interest.

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}}

:At that point, I would suggest that you look for sources which meet all the criteria in WP:42: if you can find several, it might be worth your while trying to create a draft - but if not, you will know that there is no point in going further.

:One final warning: now that you have posted here, it is quite likely that somebody will contact you offering to create an article for money. I very strongly advise you not to take up such an offer: paid editors are tolerated on Wikipedia, but most of those who might contact you are scams: see WP:SCAM. ColinFine (talk) 18:55, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::So who creates the professional page like athletes.He has articles I would like a wiki page for him.Please help me Toya6348 (talk) 19:00, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::You cannot have a Wikipedia article simply because you want one. It's also worth reading WP:ABOUTME, because having an article can be a millstone if people keep adding negative material to it. You would have no control over the article once it was created.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::::So how do professional take control and make sure that doesn’t happen Toya6348 (talk) 19:15, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::It will never happen on Wikipedia, because anyone can edit an article as long as it complies with the Five pillars. This is why someone mentioned Wix.com. It allows you to create a personal website and say whatever you like on it.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Ok thanks Toya6348 (talk) 19:27, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Where does this message come from? I always thought it was Mediawiki:Notitletext, but now I'm not sure. There's no edit history for that link, and it's red, but I think both are the case for all default messages that haven't been edited. And it gives the default message, so I'm not sure if that's because we don't have a MediaWiki page with that title, or if it's displaying the default message because it is the default message. Nyttend (talk) 22:28, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Nyttend}} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosucharticle?uselang=qqx says "(noarticletext)" in that place so Mediawiki:Noarticletext is displayed. It transcludes the text from {{tl|No article text}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

::Ah, thank you; I forgot about the "message names" tool option. Nyttend (talk) 00:34, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

How can I submit a draft, and what is available on the submitted draft? Upset New Bird (talk) 03:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia:Articles for creation should help you get started. Do pay close attention to the {{slink|Wikipedia:Articles for creation#Creating an article|nopage=y}} section. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 03:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::@ClaudineChionh: Thanks for answering, but what am I gonna do if the article already exists but I want to improve it by using a draft? Upset New Bird (talk) 03:51, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Improve the existing article, Upset New Bird, without using a draft. Instead, edit it directly. (This the usual way in which articles are improved.) Or, if you don't want to edit it directly or are unable to do so, then use the article's talk page to suggest improvements. -- Hoary (talk) 06:52, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I've previously created an article in the mainspace here Rain Celmar. However, upon checking, it has the "noindex, nofollow" tag. May I ask for help in updating it so that it shows in search results, or reviewing the article if needed? Thank you very much. Mangophi (talk) 09:08, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Mangophi}} The whole url is not needed when linking to another article or page on Wikipedia, I fixed this for you.

:Asking for a review by a new pages patroller is not likely to speed the process; do you have a particular need for it to appear in search results quickly? I see that you took a very professional image of her, what is your connection to her? 331dot (talk) 09:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::I understand the importance of transparency in these matters, and I’d like to assure you that my intent in contributing to the Wikipedia article is entirely aligned with Wikipedia’s mission to provide accurate and verifiable information. I took the photograph because I admire the subject for her achievements and thought it would enhance the quality of the article.

::To address your concern, I am not being compensated or paid for this work, nor do I have any financial or promotional interest in the subject. My connection is that of an independent contributor who supports sharing well-sourced and neutral information on Wikipedia.

::Regarding the search results, I am simply interested in ensuring the article follows Wikipedia’s guidelines and is indexed appropriately for visibility, as is typical for public Wikipedia pages. If you have further questions or need clarification, I’d be happy to provide additional details. Mangophi (talk) 09:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Can you try again without using an AI? 331dot (talk) 09:38, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::And please touch on why you decided to disregard the draft submission process and place the draft in the encyclopedia yourself. So you were at her launch event at random and decided to take her picture and write about her? 331dot (talk) 09:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::My apologies but again to clarify, I was not compensated nor paid to write the article or take the photograph. Yes, I attended the event as a fan and wrote the article as a fan, however beyond that, I am in no way affiliated with the subject.

::As for the draft submission, it was my mistake and I have no excuses. I've tried moving it back to the draft space to request for a proper review but I couldn't see the option. I simply was not sure on how things work, hence, I've asked for it in the Help desk. As another user mentioned, I am willing to wait and have it reviewed by independent reviewers. Mangophi (talk) 09:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::I have placed it in draft for you. If you are just a fan and took the picture yourself, it was unnecessary for you to contact the VRT regarding giving up the copyright. You had very good access to her as just a fan, appearing to be not below her on the event floor, but slightly above her. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you your help, I had a good seat during the event. Digital cameras were allowed and so I was able to bring mine. The image was tagged for deletion thus, I had to follow the process and send an email to the VRT.

::::Again, I really appreciate your help and will do better next time. Mangophi (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::Your very first edit was highly skilled for a new user, with a perfect infobox and well formatted references. Is this your first account? 331dot (talk) 10:32, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Yes it is my first account. Actually when checking the history, I had to do multiple edits since there were times when my references were lacking. I usually check other existing pages to have an insight on how to write a good article and use proper citations. For instance, the infobox was copied from a well-known page and I just modified it for the subject. Thank you for your review! Mangophi (talk) 10:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ec}}, articles are only available for search engines once they are patrolled by Wikipedia:New pages patrol, or after 90 days. Unfortunately NPP is usually backlogged, so you may have to wait a few weeks. TSventon (talk) 09:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, this is appreciated. Mangophi (talk) 09:30, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Your draft has been declined. You need to show that the subject meets WP:NMUSICIAN. In particular, which three of your sources meet all of the requirements outlined at WP:GOLDENRULE? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::Hi, @Pigsonthewing! Thank you for taking the time to review the article. Based on the initial feedback, I agree that the subject does not qualify yet under the WP:NMUSICIAN tag due to lack of significant coverage and independent sources. For now, I have removed the content related to their music career.

::Would it be better to shift the article’s focus to their work under WP:NACTOR, or should I seek additional guidance in the Teahouse? Mangophi (talk) 12:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:::You need to meet GOLDENRULE, regardless of the topic being music, acting, a combination,or something else. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

: HMNZS Manawanui (1948)

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Kathy Vanhout (talk) 11:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Kathy Vanhout, simply replace |website=Te Aka Maori Dictionary with |title=manawanui |website=Te Aka Maori Dictionary -- this should fix the problem. -- Hoary (talk) 12:29, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

Yesterday I tried to update my late husband, Powell St. John's Wikipedia page, and got terribly lost, and now I can't even access the page. Please help and thank you. Talon9tor (talk) 18:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:The article is Powell St. John. You should use material from reliable secondary sources if you are going to edit the article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Talon9tor.

:Editing an article about somebody close to you is regarded as a conflict of interest, and you are strongly discouraged from doing so directly. Instead, please use the Edit request wizard to raise a request for a change. Please specify the change you want as explicitly as possible; and as Ian says, if you cite a reliable published source for any information you want to add, it is much more likely to be effected. ColinFine (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I donated some money some time back and was given the chance to register I have since lost the information to log in. How do I get the right Page to re-establish My Registration. I made a large contribution but do not seem to getting any help. John Smith 64.229.16.75 (talk) 20:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Contributions to the Wikimedia Foundation do not impact day to day matters like this, and donation records are not attached to accounts.

:If you lost your login information for your account, you will need to create a new account, or you may request one via WP:ACC. 331dot (talk) 20:46, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

::If you have an account with a stored email address where you can still recive mail then you can use Special:PasswordReset. You don't have to remember the username. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:34, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:Are you talking about logging in to Wikipedia (this site), or to the donation site, which is separate? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:49, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I want to create an article in a different language. How does this work? Rafael Hello! 23:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{U|Rafaelthegreat}}, your want is curiously ambiguous. By "a different language", I guess that you mean a language other than English. So I'll assume this for now. I've no idea which language this is. Let's suppose that it's Abkhaz. An article in Abkhaz has no place in en:Wikipedia; it instead might go in ab:Wikipedia. It would of course have to satisfy the policies and guidelines of ab:Wikipedia. There's no reason to think that these are the same as those of en:Wikipedia, so you'd have to familiarize yourself with ab:Wikipedia, and, if you need more advice, you'd have to ask there, not here. -- Hoary (talk) 00:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Not that what I mean is how do you translate it? I do know there are different types of Wikipedias in different languages, I mean is there a special way to translate it, or do you have to write it traditionally, or any other way? Rafael Hello! 01:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::This was kind of my fault I said it not very clearly. Rafael Hello! 01:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::See WP:TRANSLATE. You can just create a new article with specific credit given. Or perhaps the translation tool, if you'd prefer. GoldRomean (talk) 01:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::The appropriate page in this case is WP:Translate us. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::{{U|Rafaelthegreat}}, it's still not clear whether you're asking about a translation (A) from English to a language other than English, (B) to English from a language other than English, or (C) from a language other than English to a different language other than English. If (A) or (C), you'll have to ask at the Wikipedia of the target language. If (B), the first stage is to check that you'll be able to demonstrate that the subject is "notable", as defined by and for en:Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 05:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::WP:TRANSLATE is for translating an article into English. It is linked to 67 pages in other languages if you want to translate an article into another language. TSventon (talk) 08:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|David Kikoski}}

My additional info to DAVID KIKOSKI'S Wikipedia page was constructive and harmless!!!

Dave Kikoski and I were good friends in Milltown NJ since 1st grade, and his Dad gave music lessons to me and my 5 siblings!!! And my brother, Dave, played drums at 15 yrs old in a trio with Dave Kikoski at 12 yrs old on piano and his Dad on sax in central NJ bars!!! The 2 "Daves" were amazingly talented at that young age with the help of Dave's father giving us all instrumental music lessons!!! Adding this info is to this Wikipedia page is both constructive and interesting!!! 2601:84:837E:F020:40CD:38B6:BCBA:AFDF (talk) 05:01, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

: Title added. --CiaPan (talk) 05:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please read and digest Wikipedia:Verifiability. "It describes a widely accepted standard that all editors should normally follow." The (very rare) exceptions do not include "It's true!", "I was there!", "It's constructive and harmless!", or the like. -- Hoary (talk) 05:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:In addition to what User:Hoary said above, please also note that shouting (indicated by tripled exclamation marks) does not add any weight to your statements. Wikipedia community tries hard to evaluate notability on how important facts are, not on who speaks louder. --CiaPan (talk) 06:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::The core content policy No original research forbids adding content based only on an editor's memory or personal experience. Cullen328 (talk) 07:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

• :en:Beckhoff Automation
• Draft:Beckhoff Automation

Hello, I have translated the German article of the company Beckhoff Automation as far as possible into English.

Now I need help with checking and publishing the translation of the article. I would be very pleased to receive your feedback.

Best regards, --User:SP at BA(talk) 07:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{U|SP at BA}}, the draft now starts: "Beckhoff Automation is a global leader in ...." I needed to read no further to be sure that (i) This was corporate advertising; (ii) This was written by somebody who was paid to write it.{{Red|*}} To do: (1) Remove the promotional wording. (2) Ditch your assumption that templates for de:Wikipedia will work in en:Wikipedia (or vice versa). (3) Check that the sources for anything that could be described as an achievement are independent of the company. (4) Submit the draft. {{Red|*}} As you admit. Thank you for your candour. -- Hoary (talk) 07:30, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I’ve created a draft article about Kiara Jain in my sandbox User:Renuka JPR/sandbox#Kiara Jain . Can someone help me move it to Draft: Kiara_Jain or let me know if it qualifies? Renuka JPR (talk) 07:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:I moved it to Draft:Kiara Jain, Renuka JPR. NB to have any hope of promotion to article status, it needs radical revision. -- Hoary (talk) 07:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Could you please us with the same, it will be really helpful Renuka JPR (talk) 11:57, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello, @Renuka JPR. I see that your draft has now been deleted as "unambiguous advertising".

:::Please remember that a Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what several people, wholly unconnected with the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, and very little else.

:::What the subject says or wants to say, or what their associates say or want to say, are almost irrelevant.

:::So if you choose to try again, these are the basic steps:

:::# If you have any connection with the subject, read WP:COI and make an appropriate declaration. If you are in any way employed or paid in connection with the subject, you must declare your status as a paid editor.

:::# Assemble several reliable independent secondary sources (see WP:42)

:::# If you cannot find several such sources, do not spend any more time on this, as it will not succeed.

:::# If you can find several such sources, forget everything that you personally know about the subject, and write a neutral summary of what those sources say.

:::{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} ColinFine (talk) 14:39, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, In a current AfD discussion, an IP user started a comment and mentioned a COI concerning the subject of the article as well as accusing the proposer of collusion. I responded to this, and it appears the original IP user continued the conversation from a different IP. Normally I would leave it there, but as there have already been sockpuppets identified in relation to this AfD (and articles related to it) I am concerned about possible ban evasion. Would this be something to raise to SPI? Or is there a better place for this as they are not logged in? Many thanks Nayyn (talk) 16:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Some people can only access Wikipedia via an IP that uses Dynamic IP. It would be better if such individuals created accounts, and stayed signed in, but that is not mandatory. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Ok, the two IPs were in vastly different geographies, which indicated to me that it was some sort of proxy attempt. Nayyn (talk) 23:41, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Is it possible for someone to be banned from Wikipedia in all languages? Like being prevented from editing on Wikipedia regardless of what language it is in? Questionadora ávida (talk) 16:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:m:Global bans. They're less common than site bans/blocks and are issued typically for cross-wiki abuse. Departure– (talk) 16:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I have been editing without my account for over a month now, responding to ITN/C and many AFD discussions. I want to know if there is a way to log in without using auth.wikimedia.org (which is what my school blocked,) can I have some help here or is that impossible? 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:5C9F:48AE:E927:463B (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:I think this is out of Wikipedia's scope. Is it possible for you to find a different wifi network, like at your house, library, mall etc? jolielover♥talk 17:12, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::? 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:5C9F:48AE:E927:463B (talk) 17:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::If logging in to Wikipedia on a school/work computer is blocked, it is outside the scope of Wikipedia and we can't help with this. As stated above, you will have to find a computer and network on which the access isn't blocked.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I don't think we should be advising people on ways to get around school network blocks. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::It's not "getting around" the school's block to tell students they can use Wikipedia at home or elsewhere. The school only has control over it's own network. 331dot (talk) 19:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::(EC) {{re|AndyTheGrump}} As far as I can tell, IanMacM does not advise to get around a block within the blocking network, but rather to find a non-blocked Internet access in some other network... --CiaPan (talk) 19:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::here is the issue, they blocked it for the COMPUTER IP, which means i cant get around it even if i connect to a different internet. 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:34DD:DF1C:73C6:A701 (talk) 19:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::So it's a school-issued computer that can only connect to the school network, I gather. 331dot (talk) 19:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Have you tried asking your school to unblock it, at least temporarily? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:31, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::I cant call tech support cuz they are on vacation 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:34DD:DF1C:73C6:A701 (talk) 19:49, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting that anyone tries to get around blocks that are imposed on school or workplace computers. If the computer or network does this, you will have to live with it. If you want to edit Wikipedia in your own time, that is your own business, but you will have to find a computer or network that does not block access.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:32, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia require that an acronym used to refer to a subject be consistent across multiple articles? If yes, then please point me to the WP policy. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:01, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia reports whatever reliable sources say. I assume you're referring to this discussion, which is best continued there. Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:10, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Yes, that's the discussion. Unfortunately, there are no reliable sources. It's unclear how the acronyms were chosen in the first place and if they needed to be changed to be consistent across the articles. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Your question does not have a yes/ no answer; it's going to depend on context.

:Does this relate to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing#Abbreviations for race tracks (general discussion)? We're not going to supervote that discussion for you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:13, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Yes, that's the correct discussion. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by supervote. I was just looking for a WP policy that would either support my position or not. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:24, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello, {{u|Assadzadeh}}. On Wikipedia, consistency within articles is far more highly valued than consistency between articles. Wikipedia:Consistency has links to various pages discussing consistency of various types. As for acronyms, they are covered in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations, which says {{tpq|The style should always be consistent within a page.}} Other good advice in that MOS page is {{tpq|Always consider whether it is better to write a word or phrase out in full, thus avoiding potential confusion for those not familiar with its abbreviation. Remember that Wikipedia does not have the same space constraints as paper.}} As for supervote, that refers loosely in this case to an administrator or highly experienced editor acting as if their opinion is more important than other editors based on experience. It isn't. Cullen328 (talk) 21:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

I used to be able to create articles, as I do have 3,000+ edits, and I origanize WP:ELIT. But now when I try to create an article, I get referred back to "Creating your first draft" wizard. Have I done something wrong? If so, how can I find out and correct the problem?

Thank you

LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 21:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|LoveElectronicLiterature}}. A suggestion is not a mandate. As long as you have no conflict of interest regarding a topic, you can draft an article and move it to main space. New page patroller may evaluate it. If you have a COI, you should declare it and use the Articles for creation process. Use of wizards is always optional. Cullen328 (talk) 22:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Yes. My point was that until today, I was able to create articles directly as I have 3,000 edits and have created over 10 approved articles. Why today, then, am I no longer allowed to create articles directly? Why am I only allowed to use the draft article wizard? Thanks

::LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 02:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{u|LoveElectronicLiterature}}, what specific error message do you see when you attempt to move a draft to main space? Please quote it word for word. I do not see any restrictions on your account. Cullen328 (talk) 07:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::On the advice of another wikipedian, I relogged into my account and the error is now gone. Next time, I'll do that first. I apologize for the trouble. Apparently somehow the account needed to be refreshed. Thank you for your time. LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 13:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

What is the designated code for a CTOP first alert for editing Islamic State, which the talk indicates is a CTOP - The article Islamic State, along with other pages relating to the Syrian Civil War and ISIL, is designated by the community as a contentious topic. I'm not sure by looking at this table of codes. Nothing really stands out to me as being connected to the Islamic State, Syrian Civil War or ISIL. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:Or in the alternative, would it be okay to just leave a message on the editor's talk page, reminding them of what the talk page banner says (quoting the banner). Would that be considered a CTOP first alert? Isaidnoway (talk) 21:57, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Isaidnoway}} Articles on the Syrian Civil War are protected by General sanctions, rather than CTOP rules. You can find lists and standard messages at Wikipedia:General sanctions. TSventon (talk) 22:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::So I will just leave a message then, because the notice on the talk page specifically links to WP:CTOPICS, rather than to WP:GS, so CTOP rules do apply for Islamic State. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 22:59, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::::There are two messages on the talk page a {{tl|controversial}} tag and a GS tag. The controversial tag links to WP:CTOPICS, but is currently nominated for deletion as confusing. TSventon (talk) 23:50, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I am specifically referring to the tag - WARNING: ACTIVE COMMUNITY SANCTIONS - The article Islamic State, along with other pages relating to the Syrian Civil War and ISIL, is designated by the community as a contentious topic. "Contentious topic" links to WP:CTOPICS, not WP:GS. And then in the collapsed {{font color|red|Remedy instructions and exemptions}} - it says - An editor must be aware before they can be sanctioned. And "aware" links to Awareness of contentious topics - which says - When an editor first begins making edits within any contentious topic, anyone may alert the editor of the contentious topic designation using the {{Contentious topics/alert/first}} template.

:::::That was what my question was related to, sorry if I didn't convey that clearly enough. Like I said though, I will just leave a comment on the editors talk page, since there is no specific code for Islamic State. Thanks again. Isaidnoway (talk) 00:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::{{ping|Isaidnoway}} The code for the template you are asking about is {{Gs/talk notice|scwisil}}, so the template is {{tl|Gs/talk notice}} and the code is "scwisil". The equivalent user talk page notice is {{subst:Gs/alert|topic=scwisil}}. It is confusing that the wording of the general sanctions (GS) template links to Wikipedia:Contentious topics, which does not list topics under GS. Sorry if Ihaven't explained clearly, I am not an expert in this area. TSventon (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Thanks for your time and replies, I handled it by leaving a notice on their talk page mimicking the language found in the basic CTOP alert. Isaidnoway (talk) 13:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::::I saw that, you could give some more information if they ask, otherwise it is probably fine for now. TSventon (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I want to edit the map in multiple age of consent articles to reflect the fact that Oklahoma rose their age of consent from 16 to 18. How do I do that? Do I need special software? Hamon669 (talk) 00:58, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Hamon669. I suggest asking at WP:Graphics Lab/Map workshop. ColinFine (talk) 08:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I have added a file which is way too big. Please fix and leave in the caption I have added: "Medical representatives protest against the policies of multinational pharmaceutical companies and for job security. The Maharashtra police is keeping a keen eye."

Thank you 115.70.23.77 (talk) 05:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{la|Pharmaceutical sales representative}}

:I have added the missing thumb keyword so that the software uses the default "thumbnail image" size. There's more detail at Help:Pictures. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I want to cite [https://www.cliffordlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/REDACTED-Amazon-Narrative-12-10-21_Redacted-1.pdf this report] in Draft:Edwardsville Amazon warehouse collapse. Problem is, I found out that the name of the person who wrote it is redacted; this is not a problem because [https://www.stlpr.org/economy-business/2022-04-12/attorney-says-local-amazon-warehouse-that-collapsed-was-not-built-to-code this St. Louis Public Radio report] alongside no doubt numerous other sources around the web confirm it was written by one Robert Bruno. Is this sufficient enough attribution? How should this be handled? I don't know who redacted Bruno's name or what legal bearing that has on Wikipedia. Departure– (talk) Departure– (talk) 03:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:If that name is redacted on the first report then you shouldn't use their name on name field, rather keep this empty.––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 06:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

What do i do if my husband is being held on a pv for something he didn't do hes been in prison for 9 months with no charges 2603:6011:5704:2194:543E:2AB:4F88:124 (talk) 04:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:This is the help desk, where volunteer editors assist others in answering questions related to Wikipedia. Wikipedia cannot provide legal advice. Please contact a lawyer for your specific query. Departure– (talk) 04:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please seek professional legal help, Wikipedia cannot help with this. jolielover♥talk 04:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Why does Wikipedia not include maiden names for all female biographies? Is this deliberate to lessen the achievements of women before they are married? 2001:8003:4E2A:2500:AC66:1511:10F:B779 (talk) 07:43, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello. In order for any information to be included in a Wikipedia biography, it needs a reference to a reliable source verifying that information. So, if reliable sources discuss a notable woman using her married name and do not mention her maiden name, then neither will the Wikipedia biography of her. Many biographies of married women do mention the maiden name. I have been editing for 16 years and am unaware of any deliberate attempt to lessen the accomplishments of women before their marriage. That is the type of assertion that would require solid evidence. Cullen328 (talk) 08:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::I have seen examples (not by wikinotable people) where people have changed their last names as part of a deliberate effort to reflect a disassociation with their birth family (Say moved out to California in the late 60s :)). I'm not honestly sure there whether the WP:DEADNAME situation applies there.Naraht (talk) 14:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:As a historian who works with a lot of 19th-century and early 20th-century material, it is by no means unheard of for a woman's maiden name to go unmentioned in our sources. Worse yet, in some sources we only get a mention of "Mrs. Raymond Veeblefetzer" and are unable to determine what her own first name was, meaning that the article on her husband or (in some cases) her offspring cannot mention it either. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

On much of Wikipedia, scrolling and page down are broken when viewing Wikipedia on a desktop browser. I've tested with Firefox and Safari.

Option 1, using desktop Wikipedia on a desktop browser: I get motion sickness from the sidebars.

Option 2, using mobile Wikipedia on a desktop browser: If I click anywhere in an article, and then try to scroll or page down, it fails, due to focus issues. I know it affects this article, and several others over the past few days. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic 76.9.91.13 (talk) 07:49, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Near as I can tell, Wikipedia automatically assigns space for "bodyContent," but it allocates slightly more space to the contents of "bodyContent." This results in a scrollbar on one side of the text, and breaks scrolling overall, since Firefox and Safari don't propagate scroll events. 76.9.91.13 (talk) 08:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:You're welcome to register an account even just for reading (it's free). Once you're registered, there are preferences where you can switch to different themes. The older themes (which are generally designed for desktop use) like Vector 2010 don't have sticky sidebars on the desktop version and may be more comfortable for you to use. -- Avocado (talk) 14:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello Sir/Madam,

I am having trouble editing the page of The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, I'm an employee of Capital City College and The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London is our college name.

So the Wikipedia page of The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, City and Islington College and Westminster Kingsway College has merge into one college which is Capital City College Group.

What I am trying to doing is to transfer the history of the Wikipedia pages from The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, City and Islington College and Westminster Kingsway College, onto the capital city college group page and get rid of the Wikipedia pages of he College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, City and Islington College and Westminster Kingsway College. I hope I am making sense.

The reason I am asking this is because we have re-branded the other colleges into Capital City College, if you can put that we re-branded on the Capital City College Group Page that would be perfect, thank you.

Here is the Link URL - Talk:The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London - Wikipedia

Kindest Regards

Louie Sahraoui 194.82.132.121 (talk) 08:54, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello Louie Sahraoui. Others will doubtless make more informed recommendations, but speaking from general (20 years') experience, I would say this is not a good idea.

:Wikipedia is not meant to be just a contemporary directory, but instead a comprehensive historical reference; we want to retain all the information about those historically separate institutions, and the Page histories of their articles.

:It would, I suggest, be better to retain all three articles, add to each the information about them being merged into the current institution, and create a new article for that new institution: this need then contain only summaries of the history of its constituent forerunners (which will be retained in full in their articles), and the Page histories of all four articles can (and I think should) be retained rather than be merged (which I believe is a difficult operation). Obviously, wikilinks (and, if necessary and appropriate, redirects and/or disambiguation pages) can be used to link the four articles appropriately.

:There is also the question of whether you, as an employee of the institution(s) involved, should be directly editing the page at all rather than using WP:Edit requests (except for minor uncontroversial data (like numbers of students)) – merging and renaming articles and their Page histories are very much not 'minor edits' or 'uncontroversial'.

:Please also consult (if you haven't) Wikipedia:Ownership of content, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Not to belabour the point, but these are Wikipedia's articles about the institutions, not the institutions' articles on Wikipedia.

:Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81..230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 16:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I feel like a dummy, but despite doing it many times over the years, the cite template isn't displaying correctly for me in the references section. I'm trying to update passenger numbers for train stations. The pages in question are Granada railway station, Seville–Santa Justa railway station and others. Can anyone advise? Valenciano (talk) 09:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Valenciano}} I fixed the two mentioned pages by closing a link.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Granada_railway_station&diff=prev&oldid=1297463169][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seville%E2%80%93Santa_Justa_railway_station&diff=prev&oldid=1297463239] PrimeHunter (talk) 09:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{u|PrimeHunter}} as simple as that! Thanks. Valenciano (talk) 09:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I am seeking help and guidance with the draft article The Matthew Tree Project, which was recently declined.

The article was carefully written to comply with Wikipedia’s tone, neutrality, and notability guidelines. I removed all citations that did not offer in-depth coverage of the subject and focused only on reliable, independent, secondary sources. I also ensured the tone was factual and not promotional.

Despite this, the draft was rejected again with a standard comment stating that the sources “do not show the subject qualifies” and that it “reads more like an advertisement,” which I respectfully do not believe reflects the latest revision. I would appreciate the input of more experienced editors to:

Review whether the current sources do, in fact, support notability

Suggest improvements I may not be seeing

Advise whether this article has a realistic path toward approval

Any advice or assistance would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Mark180378 (talk) 09:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:What is the general nature of your conflict of interest? You should also put a disclosure on your user page(actually that's where the box you placed on your draft should go)

:Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell about themselves, their offerings, and what they do. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. "Significant coverage" is that which goes into detail about what the source sees as important/significant/influential about the organization, not what it sees as important about itself. See WP:ORGDEPTH. 331dot (talk) 09:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, 331dot — I’ve now moved the COI template to my user page as advised. I appreciate the clarity regarding source requirements and will review WP:ORGDEPTH again carefully. Mark180378 (talk) 09:58, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

We need to create a new page with the same name. What are the things to keep in mind since I am unable to edit the current page. Every information gets reverted after we do the change. Please help. Binodan (talk) 10:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Who is "we", and what article are you attempting to create? 331dot (talk) 10:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::We is a brand I am working for - Hamdard Laboratories. The current page Hamdard India has incofrrect information and every time we correct it, the same gets reverted to the original. We want to create a separate page for Hamdard Laboratories India with the right information and link. Binodan (talk) 10:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Hamdard India has been edited by a different account. Is that a colleague?

:::First, you must formally disclose your employment with this company on your user page- see WP:PAID. (your colleague will need to do this, too, as soon as possible) You should also read about conflict of interest. You should propose edits on the talk page(Talk:Hamdard India) in the form of an edit request(click for instructions, or use the edit request wizard).

:::Your colleague's editing was pure promotion- the main purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what independent reliable sources say about the topic, not what it wants to say about itself. That said, if there are errors in the article, we want to know what those are, please discuss on the talk page. 331dot (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Also be aware of WP:BOSS, and have your superiors/colleagues read it, too. 331dot (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thanks a lot. This helps so much. Ues it was edited by a colleague. We will follow your guidance now. Binodan (talk) 11:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Creating a separate page for the same topic is not allowed. And if there is a concern about your edits to an existing page, that concern would presumably equally apply even if the page had a different name. DMacks (talk) 10:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Editing Armand Duka, down in Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page are several wierd entries that area transcluding from mainspace pages. All I can figure out is that they are generated somehow from :Template:Infobox officeholder

• Member of the UEFA (edit)
• UEFA (edit)
• Vice Member of the UEFA (edit)
• Vice UEFA (edit)

Could someone please verify for me?Naraht (talk) 10:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Naraht}} It's correct. {{tl|Infobox officeholder/office}} uses Module:Redirect to test whether some pages exist and are redirects. The purpose is to automatically add links in some situations. It can cause tested pages to be transcluded. Just ignore it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm trying to correct the details of one of the people listed in the table Passengers_of_the_Titanic#Third_class_2. Specifically, passenger Mr Lee Hing of China, aged 24. In the Lifeboat column it should state "C". Unfortunately I can't seem to edit this without messing up the coding of the adjacent rows and columns. Muzilon (talk) 11:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Muzilon I don't see a row with the information as you have specified. However, editing large tables like that is one of the few things that is easiest using the WP:Visual editor. Have you tried that? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::The passenger's name was misspelled as Mr Lee Ling, which I have corrected to Lee HING, aged 24, of Hong Kong, China. He was incorrectly listed as a victim, when he was in fact a survivor in Lifeboat "C". His name probably should be moved alphabetically under "H" rather than "L". The visual editor just made a mess of things for me, unfortunately. Muzilon (talk) 12:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Muzilon}} See Help:VisualEditor#Editing tables. If a cell should be partially split then first split it fully with unmerge and then merge som parts. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:23, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

this is more of a technical thing, which i don't believe will be useful to me at this exact moment, but might be in the near future (that is, probably within july), so might as well ask now~

is there any particular limit on how much templates can make use of other templates, and whether or not those templates could themselves be using other templates? and maybe a little more to the point, is there a limit to the extent to which that should happen? consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 12:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Consarn. There is no policy limit, as far as I know, but there is a technical limit. If a page has too many template calls (whether directly or indirectly) the software may run out of storage while rendering it, and not expand any further templates. When this happens (eg with a large table populated with template calls) the only solution may be to split the page up. ColinFine (talk) 12:46, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::yeah, that's fair. so if template a does its own thing and uses template b, which does its own thing and uses template c which does its own thing and uses template e, which does its own thing and uses template f, which does its own thing and uses template g, which does its own thing and wonders why template d isn't used, it's fine, so long as it doesn't start tanking anyone's framerate consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 12:54, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|consarn}} See Help:Template limits. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::got it, so it really seems that the limits are more dictated by not hogging all the ram, meaning that a function like that would be fine if it used a total of around 9 relatively simple arguments, but would be a little less fine if it used 800 of them, 60 of those were chains of else ifs the size of some featured articles, and one was roughly equivalent to an entire ps4 game's assets all being loaded at once

::::thanks consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 14:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I think I remember there being a policy to avoid edits that don't change the user experience, so if A redirects to B, an edit changing C to C is not appropriate. Would that also include things like removing invalid parameters in an infobox?Naraht (talk) 12:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:See WP:COSMETICBOT and note the last line about human editors. See WP:NOTBROKEN about redirects. I wouldn't object to the infobox edits unless support for the parameter had recently been removed witout consensus, or the invalid parameter has content which could be moved to a valid parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:18, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::OK. Yeah, this is trying to clean out thing like :Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with unknown parameters. I think I'm OK. the grey area is if there is a no longer used parameter that still exists from when the infobox was created with a full skeleton. No effect to what is visible if it is removed, but makes it less likely a user will try to fill it in which will trigger the unknown parameter cat.Naraht (talk) 13:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Clean-up that removes an article from a maintenance cateory is a substantive change, and is explicitly allowed even by COSMETICBOT. DMacks (talk) 18:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello. Please, help me in file 10 Largest Trans-Neptunian objects (TNOS).png rename 2002 MS4 to Máni. It was renamed recently, on 9 June 2025. Goodbye. Егор Затяжкин (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Try asking at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I have a problem. Wikipedia does not allow curly quotes, but I can't search a page for only curly quotes. All quote marks get highlighted. Is there a way to find them quickly? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 14:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Do you want to correct them? Short time ago, i had the opposite problem. Now i know this is at least partially a bot's task. See User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_41#h-Bot_changes_title_of_a_newspaper_article-20250611080900. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 15:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Valjean}} I guess you are referring to a search feature in your browser. Which browser? In a Firefox search I can click a box to match diacritics which works here. Our default edit interface has its own search feature: Click "Advanced" above the edit area and then a magnifying glass icon to the right. This does distinguish between the characters and also has a find-and-replace option. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Please give me some feedback on my article on Simple English Wikipedia. :simple:Raphael (given name). Rafael Hello! 15:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{PING|Rafaelthegreat}} this is the help desk for en Wikipedia, you can ask for help about Simple Wikipedia at :Simple:Wikipedia:Simple talk. TSventon (talk) 15:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

It is at least as difficult navigating Wikipedia as it is creating the article I am working on. Here's where I need help: 1) How do I find "my page" , "my personal sandbox"? I wrote something, hit the publish button, buy O don't know where to find what I wrote so I can continue working on other. Last question, is there anyone I can call who can walk me through some of these steps? SWJeff1750 (talk) 15:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:You edited your user page, User:SWJeff1750, which is not article space or space to draft an article, but a place for the account operator to tell about themselves as a Wikipedia user. New accounts cannot directly create articles and need to use the Article Wizard. You may also wish to read Referencing for beginners so you can source the information you are providing. 331dot (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:I have placed some introductory information on your user talk page, User talk:SWJeff1750. 331dot (talk) 15:09, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:@SWJeff1750 If you are signed in, you should see your name at the top of every page. This is a link to your user page Nearby you will see a link to your sandbox. Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I’m a new editor on Wikipedia and have recently created a draft for a new article about a female scientist named Ellen Enkel. All the information in my draft is backed by reliable sources and properly cited for verification.

However, I am unable to publish the page, as the system indicates that only a user with a different username is allowed to create a page for this person. I’m unsure why this restriction exists. I have already contacted the mentioned user via their talk page, but I have not received any response.

Could you please advise me on how to proceed? Is there a way to request permission or have the draft reviewed by another editor?

Thank you very much for your help! Yassin0709 (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:New accounts cannot directly create articles, please use the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 16:23, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Yassin0709 Also, I don't see any draft article saved from your account. please could you provide a link to it if you did indeed create it somewhere from an IP address. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::It's in the filter log, I don't think they actually published it. 331dot (talk) 16:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Yassin0709}} You tried to create it in the wrong place. The message was about the place, not the person you wrote about. You can use Wikipedia:Articles for creation which will automatically direct you to the right place. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you!!! Yassin0709 (talk) 18:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello - I work at PEOPLE and just looked at our wikipedia page and it's extremely inaccurate. These stats are from YEARS ago. How do you go about making sure that your users have correct information? Just curious because it seems odd that I can't edit it when these new stats are public figures. Thanks for your help. 209.251.198.254 (talk) 17:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:You are welcome to make a formal edit request (click for instructions, or use the edit request wizard) on the article talk page, Talk:People (magazine). You will need to clearly disclose that you are employed by people; this would be easier to do with an account, where you could make the formal paid editing disclosure on your user page, but even if you choose not to create an account, please disclose as you did here. 331dot (talk) 17:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::We have several things called People (disambiguation) but from your New York IP address I also guess you refer to People (magazine). The article is semi-protected due to persistent vandalism. You can click the "View source" tab and use a button to post an edit request. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::Also, note that stats whose dates are specified are not 'inaccurate', even if they are outdated. They are correct for those dates; updating them depends on (a) newer stats having being published in a reliable source, and (b) someone entering them into the article and correctly citing them to that source.

::Ordinarily, even someone like yourself with a Conflict of interest, provided they have disclosed their Paid editor status on their User page and/or the Article, would be allowed to make such uncontroversial edits, but because of the vandalism mentioned above, the page has had to be protected – after all, how do we know that you, an anonymous IP, are really an honest People employee and not a vandal? (Plausible but false figures are a popular form of vandalism because they are so hard to spot.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

My Wikipedia searches return in numerous languages, but not English, how do I fix this. 47.54.20.23 (talk) 18:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Are you searching at https://www.wikipedia.org? It has a language selector at the right of the search box. The English Wikipedia is here at https://en.wikipedia.org where all searches should automatically be in English. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi. There are currently [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere?target=Money+Back+Guarantee+%282023+film%29&namespace=&hidetrans=1&hidelinks=1 three old redirects] to a page which are of no need now. How to have them deleted formally? Thank you! M. Billoo 20:54, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|M.Billoo2000}} you can request this at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, but I don't know whether they would be deleted. TSventon (talk) 21:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi. I clicked on a movie title "Stonerville" and noticed that actor Brian Guest's page was deleted. How do I get that back up and running?

Thank you,

RHL RHL2025 (talk) 21:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:Brian Guest was deleted according to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Guest. If something has changed since then and he is now notable, you can use the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 21:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I did my ancestry through Ancestry DNA very confusing and missing most of my fathers information. Any suggestions? Simien 1948 (talk) 21:36, 26 June 2025 (UTC)