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Hello, can I use same article/interview of actor as reference link, confirming he indeed was in several works in his/her wikipedia article and add it as ref link at several works at his/her Wikipage?

Or I need to use several different reference links?

It is just this actor is supportive one and don't have many reliable sources. Илона И (talk) 22:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Илона И}} As a rule, credits do not need a citation barring an uncredited or pseudonymous appearance; the credits listing itself would instantly verify their participation. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Jéské Couriano so roles of actor doesn't need reference links?

::I thought it needed bcs in list of roles someone put tag Citation needed.

:::Or we need to add this actor in Cast list of this work at Wiki and put reference link here? Илона И 23:14, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

: Ranjani Shettar

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Herohcreatives (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I am not quite clear on what you said, can you narrow it down to the edit you are talking about?

:In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AHelp_desk&diff=1291380866&oldid=1291377085 your edit above], Herohcreatives, you have provided a link to an edit that you made. But presumably your intention wasn't to ask about the meaning of what you wrote. What are you asking about? -- Hoary (talk) 05:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

::I was asking for the specific link, but I have figured it out. Please check it out if I have made the right correction. Thanks for your keen observation Herohcreatives (talk) 15:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi all, I want to ask a question. Is there any way to fetch both stable and preview releases from Wikidata using {{tl|wikidata}}. There is an example on the {{tl|infobox software}} documentation, but probably doesn't work. Karacehennem (talk) 12:42, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

:In the example at {{tl|Infobox software}} the wikidata template in the parameter latest preview version is set to {{tlx|wikidata|property|preferred|references|edit|Q8038|P348|P548=Q51930650}}, which as there is no pre-release version set to the preferred rank on the wikidata item, nothing shows up. So long as the wikidata item is correct (and you're fetching the right stuff), the template should work Trim02 (talk) 13:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

There is a company page https://w.wiki/EFep which was in English earlier. Someone changed the language of this page to Hindi.

Can someone help how I can change it back to English as the page belong to a MNC and should be in English Love.eclerx (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:Is this a request for help somewhere in en.wikipedia.org, Love.eclerx? If so, please rephrase it. (And if not, you're asking at the wrong place.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:55, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Hoary The page actually belong to en.wikipedia.org but someone changed the language to Hindi and now it is showing content in Hindi language. I am trying to move it back to English.

::So I need help in en.wikipedia.org Love.eclerx (talk) 06:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:::@Love.eclerx: The url points to hi.wikipedia.org, so the page is on the Hindi Wikipedia. The article on the Hindi Wikipedia was a translation of the article EClerx (which was deleted on 4 May 2025) from this Wikipedia (the English Wikipedia). Trim02 (talk) 07:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Yes @Trim02 That's the concern. Someone translated the article in Hindi and deleted the English version.

::::Any wayout to restore the english versions? Love.eclerx (talk) 07:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Eclerx and EClerx have been repeatedly deleted for nearly 20 years, twice by discussion 1, 2. A version was restored to userspace for improvement but no improvement has taken place. It looks nowhere near to meeting the requirements of WP:NORG and would probably be deleted again if it were to appear in mainspace. Cabayi (talk) 08:00, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::Wikipedia languages are edited independently. The English Wikipedia has no control over the Hindi Wikipedia and it doesn't affect us if they once translated an English language. I don't know their article requirements and it doesn't matter to us. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

: Re: What a MESS Wikipedia's Language Options is in...! Who do I "Report" it to & WHAT CAN BE DONE about REMEDYING it?

As a multi-language speaker, I've reently accessed the Wiki page at the following linh [for the insect: weevil]: Weevil & at that page's more upper right-hand side saw the Drop-Menu button listing 49 languages. I've clicked on it & was HORRIFIED [in a state of DISBELIED, literally!] at what appeared to me to be a COMPLETE CHAOS & state of GEOGRAPHICAL IGNORANCE. AK63 (talk) 09:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|AK63}} I don't know what you are unhappy with but some languages are included in multiple regions where they are common in some of the region. It may for example seem odd that Chinese is listed under America but it's also under Asia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|AK63}} I'm not sure what disturbs you about the available languages, it seems to me like maybe you have the wrong idea about the selection of foreign languages for a given article, let me try at an explanation.

:Most people using English wikipedia (enwiki) have English as the language they're most familiar with. However, for any given article on enwiki, there may be corresponding versions of that article on other language wikis. These articles are generally independent (though in some cases, the text may have been computer-translated).

:As long as you're on enwiki, your navigation tools (e.g. search) will only search those articles that exist on enwiki. If for some reason you're curious how it shows up on (for instance) German Wikipedia (dewiki), and if the article exists on dewiki, you are free to look at that or however many other foreign-language versions exist. If you don't know German and your browser supports machine translation to your preferred language, that's your choice.

:The much greater value of having articles in other languages is when a person using enwiki wants to access an article that does not exist on enwiki but does exist in some other language, then (if an interlanguage wikilink has been provided), you can access that Wikipedia article in that other language. If it's a language you're familiar with, great! If not, you can use your browser's machine translation to view it. In effect, you have access to many articles that aren't available on enwiki thanks to someone having provided an interlanguage link to an article that's not available on enwiki. (You can also search for these other-language articles manually, but you wouldn't automatically know that the article even existed on another language wiki.) Fabrickator (talk) 07:23, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm having trouble with two editors who are obstructing my ability to edit a page, forcing extremely long discussions, with no evidence of compromising.

Whenever I make an edit, based on our months-long discussion, in an effort to advance the WP:BRD cycle, my edits are reverted with minimal discussion and often weeks between responses.

here's the page: Nerdeen_Kiswani (yeesh, this I/P conflict, amiright?)

I know this is a controversial topic, so I'm trying to assume good faith, but it's been several months without any forward progress. The page is not popular enough to attract attention from other editors.

I've been a wikipedian for 20 years, but I'm new to controversy, so I'm not totally sure how to handle this.

Any advice would be appreciated! DuckOfOrange (talk) 19:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Iamnotanorange~enwiki I'm not sure that nominating the article for deletion is the correct way forward but since you have done so this will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nerdeen_Kiswani. A more normal way to handle content disputes via talk pages is described at WP:DR. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:52, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

::The nomination for deletion is separate from the dispute and obstructive editing. I've been re-thinking the notoriety of the subject and whether it meets our standards.

::I'll pursue the WP:DR separately, thank you. DuckOfOrange (talk) 19:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:Note prior discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive349#Iamnotanorange~enwiki. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:25, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello! magazine has turned up as a source for the article Royal Family Order of Charles III and there is uncertainty as to whether it is reliable. Is it reliable and cited, at least on public appearances of the British Royal Family? J S Ayer (talk) 04:34, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:Probably not, but it's not clear. It only seems to have been discussed once at WP:RSN, five years ago: WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 267#Hello! Magazine. ColinFine (talk) 09:29, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:Hello! is a tabloid gossip magazine. I can think of few circumstances where it would even need consideration as a source. Why does an article on Royal Orders (formally-bestowed honours within the British honours system) need to cite such a source? What specific text is it being cited to support? AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:20, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:@J S Ayer The article Royal family orders of the United Kingdom certainly needs more sources/citations but surely there must be better ones than Hello! (magazine)? The "!" is a sort of give-away. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:35, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:The order is unofficial, and the needed citation would be a photograph of Queen Camilla wearing it. J S Ayer (talk) 00:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::It is rarely appropriate to cite a photograph. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

: Alan Pell Crawford

I looked up the author who received a laudatory reference added to Huck's Defeat in January:

"A fine retelling of this battle is Crawford, Alan Pell (2024). This Fierce People: The Untold Story of America's Revolutionary War in the South."

The article about that author, Alan Pell Crawford, struck me as promotional so I looked at some of the article's statistics. It was created on 2010 January 5 by "Greaterric". Three users accounted for more than 80% of the characters in the article.

Account User:Greaterric was also created on 2010 January 5. There were 11 edits via this account, all on Alan Pell Crawford. The account hasn't been used since 2010 January 22.

Account User:Jeffarazzi was created on 2019 May 10 and made major changes to Alan Pell Crawford the same day. That seems to be the only edit made from that account.

Account User:Shizshunt was created on 2024 June 25 and subsequently made 18 edits, all on July 3 and none since. Of those, 10 edits were on Alan Pell Crawford and the remainder on Mickey Bergman and Margalit Fox.

There are no user pages for Jeffarazzi or Shizshunt. Greaterric directs to Alan Pell Crawford !

I am far from expert in the workings of Wikipedia so I'm just posting something which seems curious to me and asking if any action is needed.

Humpster (talk) 05:25, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:I've removed that promotional reference. It's not clear that it was actually being used as a ref, or that it was needed in the lead. The same user also added the book as further reading, so it is still mentioned in the article. As for the throwaway accounts, there's not much to be done except to check their input for WP:POV and sourcing.

:user:Greaterric redirects to the article because the user incorrectly drafted the article there before moving it to article space. I will tag it for deletion. Meters (talk) 05:45, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:In future, you can make such reports at WP:COIN, but note the requirements stated there for prior discussion, and notifying those involved (which should also be done when reporting here). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Explanatory footnotes (whether or not made via Template:Efn) should aim for concision, and block indentation is only for long quotations. So yes, the notion that a footnote might contain a block quotation may seem wrongheaded. Still, if one is using Template:Efn and does feel compelled to perpetrate this, how is it best achieved?

.... blah blah blah body text.{{Efn|As Wigglesworth himself expressed this:{{Sfnp|Wigglesworth|1956|p=23}}{{Blockquote|text=Blah blah blah quotation....}}}}

results in a block quotation -- but one that's in a font larger than that of "As Wigglesworth himself expressed this:". (Replacing {{Blockquote| with {{Blockquote|style=font-size:80%| has no visible effect [Firefox under Debian].) -- Hoary (talk) 23:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

:You may get more specialised help if you ask at WP:VPT. You'll need to say which skin you're using. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:00, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi. Is there a way to report an article which I suspect has been completely rewritten using an LLM? aps (talk) 03:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

:AaronPassion: Yes (sadly), there is a maintenance template {{tl|AI-generated}} which will categorise the article in :Category:Articles containing suspected AI-generated texts, and a series of user warning templates starting at {{tl|Uw-ai1}}. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 05:01, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

I HAVE JUST RE-POSTED THIS DISCUSSION AS IT EXPIRED BEFORE I HAD A CHANGE TO WRITE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

THIS IS WHAT I WROTE PREVIOUSLY [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Copyright&diff=prev&oldid=1025623750]: I am very unsure about how to use Wiki-Commons. I am just about to do some major editing of a Wikipedia article about a board game, e.g., :en:Brass (board game) (Wikipedia 'free link'). I screen-shot the artwork of the game's title on the computer game version, available through Steam. The header is the word "Brass" on a brass plaque. The artwork is clearly not my own work, and I am not sure whether it is the game's logo, as it is the game's title. In addition, since it is a graphic of the game, I assume that the person in control of illustrating the computer version, Magdalena Mudlaff, or the illustrator of the original board game, Peter Dennis, have a copyright over such a graphic. How would I go about working out whether I can use the graphic or getting permission? I seem to see other board games with a complete picture of the game's box cover, including the board game logo, but I am just not sure how they managed to do that. Are such illustrations in the public domain, and, if not, how do they become so? Can you advise me? Thanks in advance for the time taken to lend your assistance.SMargan ({{int:Talkpagelinktext}}) 22:55, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

THIS WAS THE RESPONSE [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump/Copyright&action=edit&oldid=1025668507]:

: {{ping|SMargan}} There are two separate issues here:

:# Can you upload these materials to Commons? Without seeing the images in question I can't say anything definitive, but it is very unlikely anything related to a game create in recent decades is in the public domain, unless (for example) the logo is too simple to copyright and you want to use that, or the game simply reuses images whose copyright has expired. Otherwise, you'd need the owners of the copyright to release these materials under a free license, and very few owners of commercially valuable materials are likely to do such a thing. If you want a detailed explanation of the issues involved in uploading materials like this to Commons, see Commons:Uploading works by a third party.

:# Failing that, can you upload these as non-free materials on the English-language Wikipedia without involving Commons? :en:Wikipedia:Non-free content allows for allowing certain non-free content (such as logos) directly to en-wiki.

- Jmabel ! talk 04:23, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::: THIS IS MY LATEST AND FRESH RESPONSE Jmabel ! talk {{ping│Jmabel}} The logo is the word "Brass" on a brass plague background, as the logo of the 2008 board game "Brass". It is difficult to say whether this would be copyrighted as whilst the game was republished as "Brass - Lancashire" (2018) with a different logo, and the logo is pretty generic, the game was pretty popular and might be copyrighted. I have tried to upload the logo via the first method, but to no available, as I do not think this fits within the allowable criteria.

:::I am just a little unsure how to proceed with the second method. The link you gave, i.e. :en:Wikipedia:Non-free content does not seem to show how to do it, in a format I can understand. Is there a specific part of the page I was meant to be looking at. Can you advise? Is there a link to a "non-free content" uploading area? Thanks in advance for your time responding to this further query of mine.SMargan (talk) 08:02, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

::::SMargan, you should assume that any image you find or copy is conventionally copyright ("all rights reserved") unless you have, and can describe, very clear evidence to the contrary. No image that's conventionally copyright may be uploaded to Commons. Right now, as I type this response, I see within the same browser window various links provided to me by Wikipedia. One of them is "Upload file". Clicking this is how I'd start the process of uploading a file that would need, and that I'd provide, a "fair use" rationale for use within this or that article. (Though actually the process would start earlier, as I'd write and rewrite the "fair use" rationale, ready to paste it in on demand, use GIMP to reduce the size of the image, etc.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)