Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2020 September 5

for some reason my wikipedia page is zoomed way far out, like i cant read anything. how do i fix this? please email me at as i cant read anything on wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.119.235.26 (talk) 00:44, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:Hello, this may be a browser issue. In most browsers pressing Ctrl and either + or - (top right) will alter the 'zoom'and Ctrl+0 will reset to nil zoom either way. Please do not leave contact details as this is a publicly viewable area and Wikipedia will only converse via talk pages. {{please}} Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 02:18, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi I'm Chandan Dolui. My previous wikipedia account is/was "iamchandandolui"(username), but when I login it's showing wrong username or password (I know password is right). How to open the account? And also change email address which was corrupted and deleted. Please help me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chandandolui1 (talk • contribs) 00:51, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

: {{re|Chandandolui1}} User names are case sensitive. Try logging in with Iamchandandolui. After you log in you can set the e-mail address for the account. RudolfRed (talk) 02:39, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

: Note: {{U|Iamchandandolui}} was created 2019-07-01, {{U|Chandandolui}} was created 2019-05-26, and {{U|Mr.chandandolui}} was created 2019-11-14, none of which have made any contributions. This is {{U|Chandandolui1}}'s first post since being created 2020-08-29. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 05:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

So as you can see in the article, there's this same book but with a different volume. How could I cite different volumes of the books without confusion? Thanks Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 01:27, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Jeromi Mikhael}} Take a look at {{T|rp}}. I've never seen to used with multiple volumes, but its parameter is not restricted to being the page number. Thus one multivolume workThe book{{rp|v1,p20}} could be referred to by volume and page number.{{rp|v2,p75}} -Arch dude (talk) 02:43, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

{{Od}}{{Re|Jeromi Mikhael}} Note that {{Tlx|cite book}} {{Em|will}} render the {{Para|volume}} parameter, even though it's not in the cite dialog; you just have to add it manually. Here are two ways of handling it with an example source, the first pair with the volume as part of the title (as it is in gBooks):

• {{cite book |last1=Needham |first1=Joseph |last2=Wang |first2=Ling |title=Science and Civilisation in China: Volume 2, History of Scientific Thought |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=y4hDuFMhGr8C |date=1956 |publisher=Cambridge University Press |isbn=9780521058001}}
• {{cite book |last1=Needham |first1=Joseph |last2=Wang |first2=Ling |title=Science and Civilisation in China: Volume 3, Mathematics and the Sciences of the Heavens and the Earth |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jfQ9E0u4pLAC |date=1959 |publisher=Cambridge University Press |isbn=9780521058018}}

or, using the {{Para|volume}} parm:

• {{cite book |last1=Needham |first1=Joseph |last2=Wang |first2=Ling |title=Science and Civilisation in China |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=y4hDuFMhGr8C |volume=Volume 2, History of Scientific Thought |date=1956 |publisher=Cambridge University Press |isbn=9780521058001}}
• {{cite book |last1=Needham |first1=Joseph |last2=Wang |first2=Ling |title=Science and Civilisation in China |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jfQ9E0u4pLAC |volume=Volume 3, Mathematics and the Sciences of the Heavens and the Earth |date=1959 |publisher=Cambridge University Press |isbn=9780521058018}}

(view in source editor to see the syntax if needed) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:30, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

::Hello, {{u|AlanM1}}, the author is still the same, how could I differentiate it? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 03:41, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

::: {{Re|Jeromi Mikhael}} I see you're probably talking about Panitia Perumus, both of whose books (vol III and IV) are dated 1990. The article uses Harvard cites. The documented way to do this is to add a lower-case letter suffix to the year. So, for volume III, set the date parm to "1990a". For volume IV, set the date to "1990b". In the text, when citing them, use {{sfn|Panitia Perumus|1990a|p=nnn}} or {{sfn|Panitia Perumus|1990b|p=nnn}}.

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{{FYI|Renamed heading to not break page. Question asked by {{U|SylviaHardy}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:20, 5 September 2020 (UTC)}}

{{Re|SylviaHardy}} Perhaps you can tell us which page and where on the page the problem is? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 03:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

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: {{u|SylviaHardy}} If you're referring to the small mess that appeared on Temple School, I've fixed it. The section you were trying to amend should not have been there, since lists of notable alumni should only have entries for people who are 'notable' in the Wikipedia sense of having an article about them already. Perhaps we'll give the Vanity Fare singer a temporary pass, since the band has a page. But if the singer doesn't have individual notability and there's nothing in the Vanity Fare article that mentions Temple School, this entry might well be challenged.

: As to how you managed to add a bunch of empty ref tag pairs, I can only guess that you were misguidedly clicking on buttons in the editor. If you use the 'Show preview' button before committing your changes, you may be able to back out from mistakes like this. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:45, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

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Is the article I created a COI? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 04:11, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

: Just disclose the relationship on your user page. It's a distant enough connection that COI is of least concern, but it should nevertheless be disclosed. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:48, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

::{{ping|jmcgnh}} What userbox should I use? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 07:20, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:::{{u|Jeromi Mikhael}}, I recommend that you simply write out a statement of your connection. You could even include the family tree diagram. The templates and userboxes for COI are much blunter instruments.

That page you created has a number of problems, though,including broken sentences, an external link in body text that I believe may have been intended as a reference, and perhaps too much reliance on primary documents. You might have worked on it a bit more as a sandbox before moving it to article space. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

::::{{ping|jmcgnh}} Thanks for your advice! Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 10:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I need help with my page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Calvinfoss (talk • contribs) 07:18, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Calvinfoss}} it was declined, not rejected. Thats a difference. Declined means "Eh, no, this is not yet ready for mainspace. Please improve it" while rejected means "Sorry, that cant be a valid article, please stop wasting everyone's time." I see you have resubmitted the draft. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:25, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I regularly use the "watchlist", but I'm looking for something like a "TO-DO" list or queue where I can mark an article as one I need to come back to in 2 months. Say, I put an "OR" tag on a section and I want to come back in 2 months and delete if the issue hasn't been fixed. But the article will never pop on my watchlist if no one edits it.VR _talk 15:12, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Vice regent}}, maybe you would be interested in using the {{tl|todo}} template on your talk page? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:23, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.217.212.56 (talk) 15:38, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:Hello, IP user. I take it that this is about the article Bethel Bible College, Guntur? {{U|Serols}} did not give a reason for reverting your edits, but the obvious reason I see is that they do not cite an independent source. Please understand that everything in a Wikipedia article must be available in a reliable published source; and that generally the sources must be independent. Wikipedia has basically no interest in what Bethel Bible College says or wants to say about itself: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the college, and have not been prompted or fed information by the college, have chosen to publish about it in reliable places. Please see REFB. --ColinFine (talk) 16:17, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

::Hello ColinFine, unsourced and IP created an error. Regards --Serols (talk) 17:33, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

Hope you are doing well, i tried opening Wikipedia my laptop on all browsers trued cleaning cookies nothing worked, checked my connection too seems everything fine and other websites are working fine, Then i tried opening Wikipedia via my mobile data so it works is something going on ?

Could you please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.63.44.236 (talk) 16:08, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:Hi IP editor, this page may be of help to you: Wikipedia:Troubleshooting. Seagull123 Φ 10:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|Fred Pincus}}

I tried updating my wikipedia entry by adding 3 additional books that I published and received the communication pasted in below. I don't understand how this is a conflict of interest unless you folks have a policy of people not being able to edit articles about themselves. Please explain.

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Hello, Pincusfl, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms of use and our policy on paid editing.

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (Pincusfl (talk) 16:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Paisarepa (talk) 16:36, 5 September 2020 (UTC)}}

:{{Re|Pincusfl}} Looking at the article in question and your username, it appears you're directly editing an article about yourself, which, while not prohibited, is strongly discouraged. Generally in these cases users with a conflict of interest like you would make edit requests on the article's talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

: {{Re|Pincusfl}} You hit the nail on the head: {{Tq|I don't understand how this is a conflict of interest unless you folks have a policy of people not being able to edit articles about themselves.}} Please see the (blue) links in that message and the response above for more details. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:06, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:: Could the problem here be that Pincusfl didn't realize the blue text was a link because it wasn't underlined? (Not sure if that's the default setting for a new account.) ◅ Sebastian 07:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

:::{{re|SebastianHelm}} The default setting for new accounts it "let the browser decide", i.e. If the user's browser underlines links by default, links will be underlined, otherwise, they don't. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

:::: Thanks, Victor. So, Prof. Pincus, the takeaway from this may be to change your browser setting – or, if you prefer, specifically the setting for Wikipedia in your Preferences ▶ Appearance ▶ Advanced options ▶ Underline links. ◅ Sebastian 11:01, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Is it possible for me to get a comprehensive explanation of how to use the Wikipedia platforms and how best to stay out of trouble emailed to me so i can read offline? --Linda Matukane (talk) 16:55, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:On the comprehensive explanation part, see WP:TUTORIAL. You can always copypaste text and save off-line. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

I Served on Chodo Island North Korea in the USAF during the period from October 1962 till July 1953. I find that your Wikipedia page for Chodo (i.e. Chodo Island) is seriously lacking. While the information shown is somewhat accurate, some of it is in error and overall very incomplete. It appears to me that it was created rather early and leaves out an enormous amount of information of the happenings during that war. It was far more than an incomplete airport, and in fact was a well manned Air Control & Warning site which, among many other things, during that year controlled ALL fighter operations in MIG Alley, all bombing missions on the west side of Korea and yes, performed numerous rescue operations for downed pilots. Having been there during those years, I'd like permission and to edit and add to that page to tell about all the valiant men who served there and even some who paid the ultimate price for doing so.

Please tell me how I can go about getting permission to edit and add information to that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capt Chodo (talk • contribs) 21:11, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:You don't need anybody's "permission" to edit an article. Please be aware, though, that we need published sources for the changes you want to make. "I know because I was there" and "everybody back then knew this" are total non-starters. We need verifiable neutral information published by reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

::As Orangemike said, your personal experience is not directly useful to us. We are a crowdsourced encyclopedia and we have no way (and no staff) to validate your identity or veracity, so we must depend solely on information that has been published in other sources that we can trust (what we call "reliable sources"). However, experts such as yourself have a huge advantage in identifying the areas that need improvement in the article, and in finding and evaluating reliable sources. Please help us with this if you can. -Arch dude (talk) 01:07, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Capt Chodo}} Hi Captain! You might try to search some books to support your claims for anything you want to add on the article. You can ask me if you're confused with the referencing system. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 02:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

::::If you're confused, don't worry. Wikipedia's so-called "referencing system" is nothing of the sort, and remains opaquely and deliberately shite. Yes, I have some unified suggestions, but no-one will like them. >MinorProphet (talk) 00:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

I've noticed Wikipedia is a good place to test HTML and CSS, so I am wondering if CSS animations are supported? I've tried doing one (from W3Schools) but it's not working, maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Positron832 (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

:{{re|Positron832}} Please read WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not here to be a general webtool testing platform. That said, a bit of casual generalized use for learning is tolerable. However, why not just use W3schools for this? It's what they do, after all. -Arch dude (talk) 00:56, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

::{{re|Arch dude}} Don't worry, I like to style up my userpage a lot, I do small contributions to articles every now and then. I did use an example from W3schools, but I'm not sure how to correctly type it, some things like