Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/GHI

{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=Gainsville.com

|url=http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=wiki

|sample=http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=wiki&text=Blood

|rating=Medium

|compliance=Dynamic mirror. Has notice at bottom, "This article is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License." with offsite GFDL link but below "© Copyright 2007, The Gainesville Sun, Reproduction without consent is prohibited.". Has link to original article at top, with "Wikipedia" as anchor text.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Gambling Domains & Sites For Sale (not url)

| url = http://www.gamblingsitesforsale.com

| sample = http://www.gamblingsitesforsale.com/craps/dice.html copy of Dice

| rating = Low/None

| compliance = "From Wikipedia the free encyclopedia, by MultiMedia" (Multimedia links to http://www.multimedia.com.ro/). No GFDL visible.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=GameLow.com

|url=http://www.gamelow.com/

|sample=http://www.gamelow.com/puzzles/logic.html

|rating=None

|compliance=No mention of GFDL. Claims copyright. No links to original article or mention of Wikipedia. No history section. Contains copies of the old wiki entries.

|contact=GAMELOW.COM AT domainsbyproxy.com

|action=Sent standard violation letter to GAMELOW.COM AT domainsbyproxy.com. Superm401 - Talk 20:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=Gameosis.com

|url=http://www.gameosis.com/

|sample=http://www.gameosis.com/drink/flip.html (compare [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flip_cup&oldid=36398390 this version] of flip cup)

|rating=Low/None

|compliance=No mention of GFDL. Claims copyright with all rights reserved. No links to original article or mention of Wikipedia. No history section. Copies of Wikipedia articles date to approximately the first quarter of 2006.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=GamerWiki

|url=http://www.gamerwiki.com/

|sample=http://www.gamerwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_GameCube

|rating=Medium

|compliance=Fork of Wikipedia designed for gaming. Everything (including original content) is licensed under GFDL. This is noted at the bottom of every page, with link to offsite GFDL. Articles using Wikipedia include text "This article uses source material obtained from Wikipedia, as well as links to main page and original article.

The original article can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARTICLE" Both Wikipedia and the article name are linked.

|contact=Any licensing, copyright, or etiquette that has been overlooked, please leave messages at my talk page or [http://www.gamerwiki.com/index.php/User_talk:Tyagi at my GamerWiki talk page] -- Tyagi 20:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

|action=

• Left message on http://www.gamerwiki.com/index.php/User_talk:Tyagi asking for local GFDL. Superm401 - Talk 20:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• He has promised to link to their [http://www.gamerwiki.com/index.php/GamerWiki:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License local version of the GFDL]. Superm401 - Talk 01:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=Game-web

|url=http://game.moonlightchest.com/

|sample=http://game.moonlightchest.com/rubik_cube.asp

|rating=None

|compliance=No mention of GFDL. Claims copyright with all rights reserved. No links to original article or mention of Wikipedia. No history section. Moonlightchest have other Wikipedia stuff that appears to be equally non-compliant but I have not looked at it in detail.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Gateserver.net

| url = http://www.gateserver.net

| sample = http://www.gateserver.net/Topicdetails.aspx?Topicid=52082&name=&catid=329&topicname=Lost_Ten_Tribes

| rating = Medium

| compliance = They link to www.gnu.org for the GFDL license, and to the specific Wikipedia article. But no history on their site.

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• Site: http://www.gaudiriudoms2002.org/

Example: http://www.gaudiriudoms2002.org/index.php?option=com_awiki&view=mediawiki&Itemid=2&article=Talk:Manx_(cat)

{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = gaz.wiki

| url = https://gaz.wiki

|description = automatically translates en.wikipedia.org into several languages, adds an ad at the bottom

| sample = https://gaz.wiki/wiki/es/Ice_hockey

| rating = Medium-Low

| compliance= makes it clear the material is "from Wikipedia", but doesn't mention the license and doesn't link to wikipedia.org

| contact = not yet

| action = not yet

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=Geekopedia

|url=http://geekopedia.ipupdater.com

|sample=http://albania.geekopedia.ipupdater.com/

|rating=Medium

|compliance=States (in very fine print) "This article is from Wikipedia. All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License." Link to Wikipedia is broken (en.wikipedia.org/title/Albania rather than correct en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania). Links to gnu.org copy of GFDL

|action=

• Asked webmaster AT geekopedia.ipupdater.com for fixed article and link and local GFDL. Superm401 - Talk 20:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• Got mailer-daemon error. Superm401 - Talk 21:37, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

|contact=

• webmaster AT geekopedia.ipupdater.com
• admin AT ev1.net (ISP)

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See Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Abc#borgfind

{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=[http://en.geneawiki.com/ GeneaWiki], part of [http://www.geneanet.com/ GeneaNet]

|url=http://en.geneawiki.com/

|sample=http://en.geneawiki.com/index.php/Mitochondrial_Eve (compare to en:Mitochondrial_Eve). Promoted as a "featured article" on GeneaNet's websites and emails.

|rating=Low

:Medium --Zigger «º» 04:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

|compliance=Pages link to page mentioning GFDL, has local copy of GFDL. Does not mention or link to Wikipedia. Does not list or link to original history/authors.

:Page updated 19-Feb-2009, so that it now mentions GFDL & links to that GNU.org license page, and now identifies the Wikipedia article as an origin. Still does not list or directly link to original history/authors. --Zigger «º» 04:08, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

|contact=http://www.geneanet.org/contact/presse.php

|action=

Used their standard contact web form to advise of breach. But page warns "…queries out of subject … will be totally ignored." --Zigger «º» 00:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=General Books LLC

|url=http://booksllc.net/

|sample=See Books LLC; a general Wikipedia publisher on demand.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=Geodatabase.de

|url=http://www.geodatabase.de/

|sample=http://www.geodatabase.de/Joe%20Williams%20(jazz%20singer)

|rating=Medium

|compliance=Sometimes confuses talk pages with real pages (see [http://www.geodatabase.de/mozilla www.geodatabase.de/mozilla]). In other cases, correctly links to original article, page history, and edit page (albeit all through tracking redirects) and a local copy of the GFDL.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=portalestoria.net

|url=http://www.portalestoria.net

|sample=http://www.portalestoria.net/index.htm

|rating=high

|compliance=Mentions Wikipedia and the GFDL; links to original article and also GFDL.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=geoseven.com

|url=http://www.geoseven.com

|sample=http://www.geoseven.com/en/DE/

|rating=high

|compliance=Mentions Wikipedia and the GFDL; links to original article and also GFDL.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=GetGlue.com

|url=http://getglue.com/

|sample=http://getglue.com/tv_shows/legends_of_hidden_temple

|rating=None

|compliance=Mirror of first paragraph of Legends of the Hidden Temple article. No mention of Wikipedia or CC-BY-SA-3.0. No attribution.

|contact=support AT getglue.com

|action=friendly letter sent (based on form letter by DES at Wikipedia:Standard CC-BY-SA violation letter

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• Site: http://www.getgourmetrecipes.com/wiki_recipes/index.php?title=Main_Page
• No link to the original article.
• As of 13:50, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = GetWiki

| url = http://getwiki.net

| sample = http://getwiki.net/-Freeport,_New_York

| rating = Low

| compliance = They say (at bottom of page) "(...as imported from WP) article has not been saved locally". "About" page http://getwiki.net/-about says "GetWiki imports articles via XML from Wikipedia, Wikinfo, and SourceWatch, among others." They do say on http://getwiki.net/-GetMeta:Copyrights "The default imported contributions assumes GNU FDL terms", and that links to a copy of the GNU FDL, but it appears not to be linked from individual article pages.

| contact = http://getwiki.net/-contact

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Glasglidius

| url = http://glasglow.com

| sample = http://www.glasglow.com/e/index.php?title=Robert_Frost

| rating = None

| compliance = Articles are from Wikipedia but no mention of Wikipedia or the GFDL

| contact = ?

| action = None yet

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• Now, the Wikipedia content is gone and the site is overrun by spambots. — This, that, and the other (talk) 01:18, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=globalcpr.com

|url=http://www.globalcpr.com/

|sample=http://www.globalcpr.com/org/super.html, http://www.globalcpr.com/Constellations.html

| rating = Low

| compliance = Some pages, such as http://www.globalcpr.com/Constellations.html , have the notice "This content related to ARTICLE was brought to you by Wikipedia and it must be used in accordance with the GNU." Wikipedia is linked to the main page. Another "featured" set, including http://www.globalcpr.com/green/anti.html has no mention of Wikipedia or the GFDL. All pages say "© GlobalCPR.com. All rights reserved" at the bottom.

| contact = GLOBALCPR.COM AT domainsbyproxy.com

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=GlobalGuide.Org

|url=http://www.globalguide.org//

|sample=http://www.globalguide.org/index.html?title=CBC_Radio_Two mirrors CBC Radio Two

| rating =

| compliance = Gives GFDL and mentions Wikipedia. Does not link to Wikipedia or author history.

| contact =

| action = none yet

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = GlobalNY.biz

| url = https://www.globalny.biz/

|description =

| sample = https://www.globalny.biz/person/id/363

| rating = None

| compliance = No mention of Wikipedia at all.

| contact =

| action = None yet.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Global Encyclopedia of Islamic Mystics and Mysticism

| url = http://books.google.com/books?id=6XCRmgig69MC&lpg=PP1&pg=PR4#v=onepage&q=&f=false

| sample = http://books.google.com/books?id=6XCRmgig69MC&lpg=PA17&ots=RdJq-fpSWz&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q=&f=false

| rating = None

| compliance= Book, not a website: I wasn't sure where/how else to report this. Only bears an "all rights reserved" copyright notice. No credit to (nor mention of) Wikipedia, no mention of CC nor GFDL licenses. Some of the book's content does not appear (and from what I could tell, never did appear) in Wikipedia but other portions are verbatim copies. See also: Talk:Aissawa#Article issues.

| contact = Publisher info: nsingh_2004@vsnl.net; globalvision.pub@gmail.com; http://www.globalvisionpub.com

| action = Contacted Google to note that [http://books.google.com/books?id=6XCRmgig69MC&source=gbs_navlinks_s about this book] page displays Jan 1, 2007 while actual book contents say "First Edition, 2009". This is important because the content was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aissawa&diff=149146580&oldid=148701801 added] August 4, 2007. Superm401 - Talk 19:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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-- Gyrofrog (talk) 16:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Global encyclopaedia of political geography By M. A. Chaudhary, Gautam Chaudhary (book)

| url = http://globalvisionpub.com, http://books.google.com/books?id=vmyN0bMTth8C&dq=urrecht+revanchism+|+nationalism+|+irredentism+-wikipedia&source=gbs_navlinks_s

| sample = http://books.google.com/books?id=vmyN0bMTth8C&pg=PA204&dq=urrecht+revanchism+|+nationalism+|+irredentism+-wikipedia&hl=en&ei=dVxUTL2zJsT38Aa1qdmgBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=urrecht%20revanchism%20%7C%20nationalism%20%7C%20irredentism%20-wikipedia&f=false

| rating = None. Listed as © Publisher, no reference to Wikipedia or GFDL

| compliance = Multiple articles in this encyclopedia appear to have been lifted verbatim from WP, including "Revanchism", "Scientific imperialism", "Rudolf Kjellén"

| contact = nsingh_2004@vsnl.net, global.vision276@gmail.com

| action = No actions taken.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Global Vision Publishing House

| url = http://www.globalvisionpub.com/AllBooks.aspx

| sample = See the discussion at the Reliable Sources noticeboard: some (not all) books copy from Wikipedia. Do not presume that any book from this publishing house is a reliable source; do not link to copyvio.

| rating = Zero. Listed as © Publisher; Wikipedia and the GFDL do not seem to be mentioned. Some books copy from other sources, both online and printed, and do not appear to acknowledge those either. Many books have a more encyclopædia-like structure, with a series of many articles / short sections rather than one big body of prose; different articles/sections in the books sometimes appear to borrow from different sources. In one case an obvious grammatical error in the source text appears to have been copied verbatim.

| compliance = Various Global Vision books have raised concerns of copyvio on wikipedia articles, but in each case the article text predates the date the book was published.

• "Global Encyclopaedia of Environmental Science Technology and Management" copies extensively from Wikipedia and other sources (see its articles on Affluenza or Afforestation, for example).
• "Global Encyclopaedia of Welfare Economics" duplicates content that appeared first on Central limit theorem.
• "Encyclopaedic dictionary of Marathi literature" duplicates content that appeared first on various Wikipedia articles (first example: Abhanga).
• "Philosophy of scientific creationism" duplicates content that appeared first on Teach the Controversy.
• "Foundation of Geology" is already listed at Mirrors and forks.
• "Global Encyclopedia of Islamic Mystics and Mysticism" is already listed at Mirrors and forks.
• "21st century Cambodia: View and Vision" is already listed at Mirrors and forks.
• "21st century India: View and Vision" contains [http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=1&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22nur+jahan%27s+abortive+schemes+to+secure+the+throne+for+the+prince+of+her+choice%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= content] from an [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mughal_Empire&oldid=173757535 old version] of Mughal Empire, and from a number of other sources
• "Global encyclopaedia of political geography" is already listed at Mirrors and forks.
• "Indian Administration Vol. 1" duplicates content that first appeared at Bureaucracy.
• "History of Afghanistan" duplicates content that appeared first at History of Afghanistan.

; Copied from other (non-wikipedia) sources

• "Spiritual Value of Social Charity", in which the first visible page of text - apparently written by the publisher themselves - is a direct copy of "History and philosophy of social work in India" (published by somebody else, decades earlier).
• A randomly chosen sentence from "Encyclopedic Dictionary of Sanskrit Literature" also appears in a 1996 book from a different source: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=bks:1&q=%22his+another+well+received+play+Pratijna+kantilyam+is+a+prologue%22]
• "Nuclear weapons and national security: emerging challenges for Asia" copies extensively from [http://www.apcss.org/Publications/Nuclear%20Weapons%20Challenges%20in%20Asia.html]
• A randomly chosen sentence from "21st Century India : View and Vision " also appears in a 2003 book from a different source: [http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22a+dozen+core+regions+based+on+access+to%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=]
• The first sentences of "Rāvaṇa and Laṅkā", [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=os1wPNHRrbEC&pg=PP2&dq=%22Ravana+and+Lanka%22&hl=en&ei=E5GLTcvpG5GzhAep0a2vDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Ravana%20and%20Lanka%22&f=false] nominally written by R.K. Ramakrishnan, is copied from "India in the Rāmāyaṇa age: a study of the social and cultural conditions in ancient India as described in Vālmīki's Rāmāyaṇa", published 1967 [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JXugAAAAMAAJ&q=%22the+first+is+the+viradha+clan+who+lived%22&dq=%22the+first+is+the+viradha+clan+who+lived%22&hl=en&ei=YZGLTdeAA5CLhQeG8_mmDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA]
• "Basics of guidance and counselling" [http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22norms%20are%20scores%20which%20are%20typical%20or%20characteristic%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=bks:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wp appears to copy] from a 1984 book by a different Indian publisher which in turn copies from the 1965 "Testing for Teachers".
• "Role models in management (leadership and communication)" [http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&tbs=bks%3A1&q=%22two+months+before+the+battle+of+alamein%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= copies from] "Effective Leadership" by Adair

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=glosk.com

|url=http://www.glosk.com

|sample=http://www.glosk.com/AS/Leichhardt/-2243917/pages/Poison_Rocks/106601_en.htm

|rating=High

|compliance=Mentions Wikipedia and the GFDL; links to original article and also GFDL.

|contact=contact AT glosk.com

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• Page: www.goddessflight.com/biorhythm/biorhythms_explained.php shortened copy of Biorhythm
• States: "Excerpt above is from The Global Oneness Commitment at www.experiencefestival.com/a/Biorhythm/" though www.experiencefestival.com/a/Biorhythm_-_The_basic_theory/id/617210 would be a better link (see Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/Def#experiencefestival)
• No mention of GFDL

No compliance. Same site format (and violations) and apparently same webmaster as Wikix.ipupdater.com

Example violation: http://www.gogeeky.net/title/A-Dream-Play from A Dream Play

{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = GoGetPapers

| url = http://www.gogetpapers.com/

| sample = http://www.gogetpapers.com/Questions/Cheater_plug

| rating = None

| compliance = The "Questions and Answers" section, which seems to be automatically generated through Wikipedia scraping, does not even acknowledge Wikipedia.

| contact =

| action = E-mailed the Domains by Proxy e-mail address from WHOIS. PleaseStand (talk) 01:26, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Google Knowledge Graph

| url = https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/insidesearch/features/search/knowledge.html

| sample = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg91_trV4hY

| rating = Low

| compliance = Entries mention Wikipedia but not license

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|description = Google Knowledge Graph

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Google Knowledge Graph Search API

| url = https://developers.google.com/knowledge-graph/

| sample = https://developers.google.com/knowledge-graph/reference/rest/v1/

| rating = Medium

| compliance = Entries mention Wikipedia and license; unclear what license covers the API

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|description = JSON-LD interface to the Google Knowledge Graph.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Google Knowledge Graph Search Widget

| url = https://developers.google.com/knowledge-graph/how-tos/search-widget

| sample = https://developers.google.com/knowledge-graph/how-tos/search-widget-example

| rating = Medium

| compliance = Entries mention Wikipedia and license; unclear what license covers the API

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Google Maps

| url = https://maps.google.com

| sample = https://www.google.com/maps/place/United+States+Naval+Observatory/@38.9216743,-77.0690724,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b7b62f93f61443:0xeba717baca31d77d!8m2!3d38.9216743!4d-77.0668837

| rating = Low

| compliance = Entries link back to Wikipedia but not license. The Google Maps license is more restrictive than CC-BY-SA.

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|description = Google Maps "Quick Facts" entries rely on Google Knowledge Graph

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = goo Wikipedia

| url = http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/

| sample = http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/User:Igrebnev/sandbox

| rating = None

| compliance = non-compliant, copyright notice claims copyright

| contact =

| action = None, raised at OTRS. I don't speak or write Japanese.--ukexpat (talk) 21:12, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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• Site: http://www.go-portal.org/
• Example: http://www.go-portal.org/index.php/component/awiki/?view=mediawiki&article=Talk%3ACigarette

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| name = Spartanburg SC | GoUpstate.com | Spartanburg Herald-Journal

| url = http://www.goupstate.com/

| sample = http://www.goupstate.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=NEWS&template=wiki&text=Alicia_Keys

| rating = "Medium"

| compliance = Directly mentions Wikipedia with a link to the article; however, no mention of GFDL

| contact = (IT director): cathy.miller AT shj.com, 864-562-7621

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| name = Gov-Certificates.co.uk

| url = http://gov-certificates.co.uk/

| sample = http://gov-certificates.co.uk/birth/certificate/Crematoria

| rating = None

| compliance = No credit to or mention of Wikipedia. Claims own copyright on material. Worse, it's a remote loader (images and text); I'll report it at meta.

| contact = Domain registered and hosted by [http://www.fasthosts.co.uk fasthosts], they might be worth contacting. Site has a [http://www.gov-certificates .co .uk/contact-us.html postal address]. Site triggers Wikipedia's spam blacklist.

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = governpub.com

| url = http://www.governpub.com/

| sample = http://www.governpub.com/gt/Beowulf.html

| rating = Low

| compliance = No mention of Wikipedia, GFDL, or any other copyright info on any page. Contains old copies of articles

| contact = abuse AT domainsbyproxy.com, abuse AT godaddy.com (registrar/host), GOVERNPUB.COM AT domainsbyproxy.com (privacy whois)

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{{Wikipedia mirror

| name = Gpedia

| url = http://www.gpedia.com

| sample = http://www.gpedia.com/en/gpedia/Main_Page

| rating = High

| compliance = Every page has a statement at the bottom that it is a derivative work under CC-BY-SA, with a link to the original article. No specific mention of Wikipedia, except as happens to occur in the text of pages.

| contact = not found

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{{Wikipedia mirror

|name=Greatestinfo.org

|url=http://www.greatestinfo.org/Main_Page

|sample=http://www.greatestinfo.org/Christ

|rating=|compliance=Was once a disturbingly exact copy of Wikipedia but all articles now redirect to http://www.greatestjournal.com/. Should be monitored occasionally.

|contact=http://www.greatestjournal.com/support/submit.bml (Greatestjournal complaint form)

|action=I've placed requests for the site owner to come here and explain further in a couple of visible places on the site. —Charles P. ^(Mirv) 19:57, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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|name=GreatPersonalities

|url=http://www.greatpersonalities.com

|sample=http://www.greatpersonalities.com/viewtopic-32.html

|rating=|compliance=Once copied several chess/tennis/etc. articles. Has now become a blog (what hasn't). Should be monitored

|action=Sent first email Sept. 12, 2004 --Etaonish 19:02, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)

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• Site: [http://www.greatsite.com/ greatsite.com]
• No mention of wikipedia
• No mention of GFDL
• Claims to own copyright

• Doesn't seem clear to me. If there's copying from the Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia, they probably both borrowed from the CCEL.org [http://www.ccel.org/s/schaff/encyc/encyc12/htm/ii.xv.x.htm version]; I caught this (and credited the source) in the Philipp Melanchthon article. Joelwest 01:54, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
• It seems clear to everyone else but you. The only theory that you have offered is that both numerous (probably in the double digits) _different_ wikipedia editors and the creators of greatsite.com misappropriated material from a mysterious third source. I'd like to know what this third source is. Take the example that I named above. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=William_Tyndale&diff=950989&oldid=190915 edit] adds a paraph starting "Besides translating the Bible, Tyndale also held and published views which were considered heretical, ...". Now do you honestly claim that a wikipedia user and the creators of greatsite.com both found the same paragraph somewhere and copied it? Do a google search for this first sentence: [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Besides+translating+the+Bible,+Tyndale+also+held+and+published+views+which+were+considered+heretical%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&filter=0] - you'll see that the only websites that contain this material have taken it from wikipedia. (Funny enough the wikipedia page is not listed there.) I don't see how it could be more clear that they took the material for the Tyndale article as well as others from us. Please give some valid arguments besides saying that it is not clear to you. --snoyes 19:10, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

:Similarities with Wikipedia's Martin Luther passage:

• [http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/martin-luther.html] appearts to be based on Martin Luther. If you look at the [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&action=history&limit=500&offset=0 history] of our article (for example, the creation of the second paragraph of the "Exile at the Wartburg Castle" section in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1116597&oldid=1116516]), it seems to have been built up piece-by-piece, so I think it's pretty clear that they've copied us rather than the other way round. Camembert
• Sent the standard letter. --snoyes 02:49, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)
• As the one who started this whole thread, I believe the evidence is more consistent with either Wikipedia copying this site or both copying a third source (hopefully public domain). The problem was introduced in the [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&oldid=1101815 18:18, 01 July 2003 revision]; see the new sections "struggle to find peace with God", "Warburg Castle" and "Luther's writings" which are almost verbatim quotes. It is quite possible both were taken from a 3rd source (since it reads like the work of a scholar or theologian) but google did not find it. GreatSite.com lists a specific author with its copyright, and is willing to let the work be reproduced [http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/index.html with credit] (scroll to bottom). Joelwest 01:54, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
• But much of the content we had before that July 1 edit is included in the greatsite version as well. For example, compare the beginning of greatsite's "Martin Luther and Judaism" section with the penultimate paragraph of [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&oldid=266809 this] Wikipedia version of January 7, 2002. They are nearly the same. So if the Wikipedia version has been copied from another source (either greatsite itself or a shared third-party publication), then it's been copied in bits and pieces by many different people in many edits over the course of two years. That seems unlikely, to put it mildly. More likely, greatsite has copied a Wikipedia version and edited it a bit. Don't underestimate the ability of Wikipedia contributors to write like scholars or theologians - some of them are. --Camembert
• I have ruled out the Schaff-Herzog Encyclopediaand the Catholic Encyclopedia as the source of both articles; see the [http://www.ccel.org/l/luther/ Luther stories] at CCEL.org. Joelwest 01:58, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
• Possible GFDL violation by greatsites. The [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1359192&oldid=1263672 05:51, 9 Aug 2003 Melanchthon] correction is present there. The [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&oldid=1553013 00:45, 30 Sep 2003 Pope Leo III to X] correction isn't, so the copying seems to have happened between those two dates. The remaining edits between those dates don't help to narrow it down further. Lots of other corrections and edits prior to 9 Aug are at greatsites, so I conclude that it almost had to have been after that 9 Aug edit. In more detail: greatsites.com appears not to have had much coverage of Martin Luther on 2003-02-06 [https://web.archive.org/web/20030206075441/www.greatsite.com/engbibhis/index.html]. Regrettably there is no more recent archived copy of that site to compare with. The Luther's German Bible section is present and that was added at 20:26, 25 Jun 2003 so the copying seems to have happened after then. There's an extra sentence in the copy which doesn't seem to have ever been present in a copy of ours and the 1922 date differs from ours as well. Luther's early life was expanded at 17:47, 5 Jul 2003, including a mention of a copper mine starting from [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1116620&oldid=1116597 this 17:47, 5 Jul 2003 edit] so the copying happened after this edit. [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1120104&oldid=1119680 this 14:17, 6 Jul 2003 edit] changes text from "a few days later" to "the next day" and greatsites has that change. The changes in the 21:02, 8 Jul 2003 edit at the start of this examination are present. Until [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1138067&oldid=1137991 this 15:04, 11 Jul 2003 edit] our text contained "From the viewpoint of the Roman Catholic Church". The greatsites version doesn't contain that, suggesting that the copying happened after this edit. Until [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1138781&oldid=1138711 this 18:34, 11 Jul 2003 edit] our text contained "called to testify". The edit changed it to "summoned to either renounce or reaffirm them" and greatsites contains this change. The [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1139320&oldid=1138992 edits of 19:43, 11 Jul 2003] are present at greatsites. The [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1139817&oldid=1139320 Eck change of 21:47, 11 Jul 2003] is present at greatsites. The 18:28, 30 Jul 2003 near to nearby change suggests copying after this edit. The first of the [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1219802&oldid=1219799 18:39, 30 Jul 2003 edits] is present. The [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1221243&oldid=1221230 07:31, 31 Jul 2003 changes] are present, so it was after this. The [http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Martin_Luther&diff=1359192&oldid=1263672 05:51, 9 Aug 2003 Melanchthon] correction is present. Jamesday 10:39, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)

:Here is a second example of similar text between Greatsite.com and Wikipedia:

• Their [http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/william-tyndale.html Tyndale] article has wording in it that was made to the old encyclopedia article on wikipedia by an anon user: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=William_Tyndale&diff=950989&oldid=190915]. Again it should be clear that they copied from us and not the other way arround. --snoyes 06:33, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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