Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Nableezy/LV

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Nableezy's been keeping this "dossier" on me since January 2022. My understanding is that these are allowed only if someone is preparing to file a case. It's been long enough. I've asked him on his talk page to file the case or remove it; the message was read and removed without comment. Levivich 15:26, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

• Keep - not a "dossier", and as evidenced by the continued addition it is still being used as of this morning. No user is named, or linked, making it curious as to how one even comes across such a page if they are not "[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Levivich&diff=prev&oldid=1089654664 stalking]". As far as read and removed without comment, seems a bit rich to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Levivich&diff=1089632059&oldid=1089631638 post personal attacks against a user, ban them from your talk page], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Levivich&diff=prev&oldid=1089632924 remove their response to your personal attack] while retaining the attack and then expect them to read anything you post on their talk page, especially given that the post contained [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Nableezy&diff=1089766590&oldid=1088096947 yet another personal attack] (calling me a "weirdo"). Given the editor complaining here has a number of lists of diffs he finds objectionable in his userspace, eg this, or this, or any number of posts in his talk page archives, I find it incredibly hypocritical to nominate this actively used page for deletion. But since the user is continuing to make personal attacks (eg calling me a stalker, a weirdo, when only one of us has shown themselves to be stalking the others contributions, and ill give you two guesses as to which one that is), and I am still gathering evidence of his disruptive edits, this is an acceptable use of userspace. nableezy - 15:32, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:POLEMIC: {{tqb|"Users should generally not maintain in public view negative information related to others without very good reason. Negative evidence, laundry lists of wrongs, collations of diffs and criticisms related to problems, etc., should be removed, blanked, or kept privately (i.e., not on the wiki) if they will not be imminently used, and the same once no longer needed."}} nableezy, please move your collection of diffs off-wiki unless you're "imminently" about to use it in a conduct dispute resolution process. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:46, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
• :I dont believe this is in public view, in a subpage of my userspace that is not linked anywhere, and it links to no user anywhere or says anything negative about a user. But it is still being used, Im still gathering evidence, as shown by the edits yesterday and this morning. I can remove the outdated diffs though. nableezy - 15:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
• :: "collation of diffs" describes what you're doing, and the guideline's meaning of "public" clearly includes any Wikipedia page, as it later defines "privately" to mean "not on the wiki". Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:09, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

::::Given the extensive use of userspace to collate diffs by Levivich linked above (this, or this), and given I link to no username I dont think that is what is covered. Either way, I am still actively going through the evidence, and if a user actually thought that having such a list of diffs in their userspace since January is a problem then Levivich would ask for his dossiers to be deleted. nableezy - 16:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

:::::Those two pages you linked to aren't collating diffs relating to an editor, they're collating diffs relating to multiple articles. It's not POLEMIC or even comparable.

:::::"given I link to no username I dont think that is what is covered" - you're not seriously denying this page is about me?

:::::"I am still actively going through the evidence"... since January 2022 when you started that page? Does your computer not have a text editor? Use that to collect your evidence. Post it on-wiki when you're done, not while you're doing it.

:::::I asked you stay off my talk page and you started editing your dossier again in response. You've edited my user talk page 149 times [https://sigma.toolforge.org/usersearch.py?name=Nableezy&page=User_talk%3ALevivich&server=enwiki&max=]. You are the #3 editor of my talk page [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/User%20talk:Levivich]. My talk page is the #3 most-edited user talk page you've ever edited [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/Nableezy/3], which is amazing considering I've only been here 3 years and you've been here almost 15 years. And that's #3 by edits and by text added, another amazing statistic. By contrast, before today, I never edited your user talk page [https://sigma.toolforge.org/usersearch.py?name=Levivich&page=User_talk%3ANableezy&server=enwiki&max=].

:::::I asked you to stay off my talk page because recently you've developed a habit of coming to my talk page every few months to "start trouble" one way or another. We don't even edit in the same topic areas. Here's our mainspace editor interaction analyzer: [https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Nableezy&users=Levivich&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=%2C%2C&server=enwiki]. There are only 10 articles we've ever edited within the same month, and they're not even in the same topic area. This is the kind of overlap one would expect between two editors with tens of thousands of edits between them who don't usually edit in the same topic area. ([https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Nableezy&users=Levivich&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki Here] is a link to the editor interaction analyzer for all namespaces.)

:::::I stopped editing in the Israel/Palestine area well over a year ago (and even last year, it was one article, which broke another long hiatus ... in truth, I've probably edited less than a dozen IPA articles lifetime); you still find ways to harass me. This is just the latest. Stop it. If you think I'm doing something wrong, say it outright. Present your evidence, make the case. Constantly finding new and creative ways to become a part of my editing experience, when I'm actively trying to avoid you -- all because I disagreed with you about a content dispute in 2018 -- is harassment. That's the word for it. Stop it. Levivich 16:45, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

:::::::I have no idea what content dispute you think occurred in 2018, and you edited in the topic area as recently as January in the Counterpunch RFC. This ongoing claim of harassment is a personal attack, one in a series, in which you repeatedly make claims of wrongdoing and even the most basic look will show it to be totally specious. You asked me to stay off your talk page after you repeatedly attacked me for giving you a required administrative notice, making several false claims about me and what Ive said, and when I corrected those false claims you retained your attacks and removed my response. Which is why I again started to collate evidence of your repeated NPA and ASPERSIONS violations. In Jan I started, and then stopped, and anytime between then and now I should have deleted what was there. What is there now however is evidence of recent misconduct, and I am collating other examples of you making bogus claims against others and then personally attacking them. Since I just started yesterday that will take a bit of time. I have said outright several times what I think you are doing wrong, ASPERSIONS and NPA. Calling me a stalker when you are the one going through my contributions, calling me a weirdo, saying I am making things up when you are making things up are personal attacks. And I am documenting those. nableezy - 16:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

::::::::You are a weirdo, and you are stalking and harassing me, you've had a page dedicated to my contribs for five months! That's weird!!. You're constantly showing up to my talk page. That's weird!! The DS notice wasn't "required" in any sense of the word. It's pointless because I'm perpetually aware of DS under the DS rules because I was sanctioned... and, as I pointed out previously, you made 25 edits to the talk page thread arguing for me to get that sanction, back in May 2020, and even though I don't edit in the topic area, you still decided -- out of the blue -- to post a DS awareness notice. You did it on the two year anniversary of the block. You called it "yearly reminder". The only reason for you to do that is to bother me. That's why it's harassment. I checked your contribs to see who else you'd left a "yearly reminder" for. The answer is: nobody. Just me. Just singling me out.

::::::::Your actions are obsessive towards me. I'm trying to get you to leave me alone, but you're not doing that. This MFD is in hopes of avoiding an ANI, or maybe just going to T&S (I also today Googled "levivich nableezy" and found where he's you've been talking about me off-wiki). You're not hearing me about this: Leave me alone. Now. Levivich 16:58, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

:::::::::Another personal attack here. Will add that to the list. And Sherlock, your sanction is struck from the log. You are not "perpetually aware", and if you want to be "perpetually aware" then you can add the freaking awareness template. The reason to give you the notice is that the next time you violate the arbitration decision that nobody is able to say he wasn't aware so as to evade the sanctions. And the fact that El_C gave you an awareness template after the stricken sanction gives proof to the lie that you need not be notified. That is the reason to give you the notice, and yes it will be yearly. I have shown no obsession with you at all, that is yet another personal attack on a person's mental state. You are demonstrating why I need to collate diffs of your aggressive and uncivil behavior. Constantly showing up at your talk page? I had a conversation with you in January, a conversation you seemed to find no issue with until today, and why there are so many edits to your talk page from me, and then I gave you a ds/alert yesterday. Just one more in false claim. nableezy - 17:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

::::::::::The fact that you have repeatedly promised to leave these yearly DS notices, here just now and yesterday on my talk page, makes me want to go to ANI and ask for an IBAN right now. The only reason I'm not doing that is because I don't want to waste the community's time on something that you threaten will happen next year. It's amazing you say this in the same message you disclaim having an obsession with me. And Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log/2020#Palestine-Israel articles says {{tqq|It has been brought to my attention that, per ACDS#Awareness#4, the awareness criteria were in fact satisfied. It has been brought to my attention that, per ACDS#Awareness#4, the awareness criteria were in fact satisfied. So it should be reflected in the log here, even if I'm not inclined to reinstate the block myself at this time (another admin is free to do so, however).}} That says not only was I aware at the time of the sanction, but now that I've been sanctioned, I'm perpetually aware.

::::::::::And still, you don't need to drop a DS template for someone who doesn't edit in the topic area. And even if you did, why am I the only editor you're doing this "yearly reminder" for? That's why it's harassment: it's a pattern of conduct that has no purpose other than to bother me, and me individually, not some group of people, just me.

::::::::::You're not going to DARVO this by claiming that my telling you to stop harassing me, or calling you a stalker or a weirdo because of you're obsessive pursuit of me, is a personal attack. You are the bully: I am standing up to you. Levivich 17:12, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

:::::::::::It should be and it is are two different things. The sanction was vacated, and as such you have no non-overturned sanctions in the topic area. You were aware then, and the sanction should have stood, but some user was able to wikilawyer it away. And so that does not occur again I notify you to ensure that you are aware in the future. Yes, I am giving the notification so that the next time you edit-war in the topic area you can be more easily sanctioned. As far as only editor, that is just one in another series of false claims. I routinely give users DS alerts, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:YGoldshtei&diff=prev&oldid=1089397526], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Triggerhippie4&diff=prev&oldid=1088011586], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Atbannett&diff=prev&oldid=1081061706]. Kindly stop making shit up about me to attempt to claim some wrongdoing. It is a personal attack. Also stop the other personal attacks and Id be happy deleting the page. You are the only person in this dispute that has violated our policies on aspersions and personal attacks. I have not once attacked you. DARVO indeed. Gaslighting too. Finally, you did edit the topic area, the Counterpunch RFC. You can keep pretending like you did not, but that is just one more lie in a long list of them. nableezy - 17:18, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

::::::::::::So because I was sanctioned two years ago in May 2020 and "some user" (not me) "was able to wikilawyer it away", and "so that does not occur again I notify you to ensure that you are aware in the future."

::::::::::::You are literally admitting to obsessive harassment. You said that to make sure some user doesn't get me out of a sanction in the future based on awareness, you're vowing to leave me annual DS notices, every May. That is so fucked up, nabs. What the fuck is wrong with you? You think this is normal behavior? This is a psychotic obsession. I can't believe you're freely admitting to this. Levivich 17:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

:::::::::::::I am literally saying I am not doing any of the things you repeatedly lie about. There is no harassment in giving you a required administrative notification. But no matter, this can be deleted shortly as I will be reporting the personal attacks now. nableezy - 17:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

As Ive now filed the DR case at ANI, Ive tagged for U1 this subpage. nableezy - 17:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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