Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2011 March 30#File:Cham refugee camp in Albania.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 09:08, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

::File:Swatch YCS531G.JPG ([{{fullurl:File:Swatch YCS531G.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+March+30%23File%3ASwatch+YCS531G.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Swatch YCS531G.JPG|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ASwatch+YCS531G.JPG}} logs]).

• claimed "author=SV 84" and "self|cc-by-sa", but simultaneously "source=Swatch", implying it's taken from a company website. Small web-resolution file but professionally done photograph. Unlikely to be own work. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:49, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|SchuminWeb}} AnomieBOT⚡ 09:08, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

::File:Alphons Kannanthanam.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Alphons Kannanthanam.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+March+30%23File%3AAlphons+Kannanthanam.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Alphons Kannanthanam.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AAlphons+Kannanthanam.jpg}} logs]).

• Looks like a screenshot, therefore most likely non-free, "own work" claim implausible. Same editor has uploaded unlicensed images before. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:33, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by {{admin|Diannaa}} AnomieBOT⚡ 02:09, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

::File:BeyonceBarnStar.png ([{{fullurl:File:BeyonceBarnStar.png|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+March+30%23File%3ABeyonceBarnStar.png%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:BeyonceBarnStar.png|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABeyonceBarnStar.png}} logs]).

• Barnstar claimed {{tl|Pd-author}}, however contains a possibly non-free image of Beyonce. Acather96 (talk) 19:52, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

:Speedy deletion Copyvio from I Am... Sasha Fierce cover. Tbhotch* ^{۩ ۞} 23:42, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was: deleted

::File:Cham refugee camp in Albania.jpg ([{{fullurl:File:Cham refugee camp in Albania.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2011+March+30%23File%3ACham+refugee+camp+in+Albania.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | talk | [{{fullurl:File:Cham refugee camp in Albania.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ACham+refugee+camp+in+Albania.jpg}} logs]).

• File is non-free under GFDL, per source [http://www.elsie.de/en/contact.html] CoolMartini (talk) 21:35, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
• The texts of all articles and books which can be downloaded here may be copied for private use if the author and source are properly acknowledged. Please contact the author in advance for any commercial usage. It's not Elsie's work and it's from 1946 i.e it's PD.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 21:14, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

::*Delete: Source given by user that uploaded the image is: http://albanianhistory.net/texts20_2/AH1946.html (and it's Elsie). As I see similar images from the same period were also speedy deleted for similar reason (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_files/2009_July_3#File:Cham_refugees_in_1944.png). Since this is from 1946, copywirght has not expired (less than 70 years). It's not PD, and speedy deletion is justified.Alexikoua (talk) 21:28, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

:::Alexikoua and when BW added Albanian law he definitely meant this law [http://www.albarchive.gov.al/cms/upload/pdf/LawAlbanianArchives.pdf]. Elsie used a picture that belongs to the Albanian state i.e it's PD. The 70+ applies to private works, not material that belongs to the state itself.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 21:52, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

::::Zjarri: Balkanian misused Albanian law (no wonder several similar images that he uploaded were speedy deleted). Also we have already made clear in past that this is not PD under the Albania Law: it needs the usual 70+ years to become PD, as already clarified http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gjerasim_Qiriazi&diff=prev&oldid=361873107). Please read http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Albanian_Law_No._7564,_dated_April_19,_1992,_on_Copyright.pdf/1. Also the url you gave http://www.albarchive.gov.al/cms/upload/pdf/LawAlbanianArchives.pdf is 'irrelevant' since it is about the 'function of the archival service in Albania'.Alexikoua (talk) 22:24, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

::::::It's not a private work but a document of the archives, so please read the law on archives.-— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 22:36, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Unfortunately you need to prove that. If not it will be speedy deleted like the rest that was uploaded from this site. Albanian Law is very clear that we have copyright violation case (the usual less than 70+years cr expiration).Alexikoua (talk) 23:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

::::::::Read Chapter 3/Article 17.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 06:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

:::::::::Zjarri: please avoid citing completely irrelevant articles. As already stated the specific source (Elsie) is not PD. Clear copyvio case (less than 70 years). We have to wait until 2016, according to the relevant [http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/fr/text.jsp?file_id=124615 Law on copyright in Albania] Alexikoua (talk) 08:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Zjarri: the law about archives you cite has nothing to do with copyright. Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

::::::::::Alexikoua: Elsie doesn't have the copyright of a 1946 photo that belongs to the Albanian state. FutureP: I can ask Elsie to send an e-mail to wikipedia if that's necessary for the photo to not get deleted, but it belongs to the Directorate of Archives. To put it in more simple terms you can visit the Directorate in Tiranë and ask for access to all public archives and as soon as you get the access you can use any of their documents(even if it is a document of 2010) for any non-commercial use.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 09:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

:::::::::::Zjarri: This is irrelevant with the 'Directorate in Tiranë' and no wonder Elsie doesn't support it anywhere. So, I can not explain why you insist too much on something you can not prove it.Alexikoua (talk) 11:38, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

::::::::::::It's a 1946 photo take by the Albanian army i.e it's part of the archives, so I'll ask from Elsie to sent an email to wikipedia and the file won't be deleted.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 12:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

:::::::::::::What has Elsie got to do with anything? Elsie isn't the copyright holder, so he can't do anything to release this thing either. What we need is a statement from the archive, or relevant info from its catalogs, telling us what the copyright status is. It may be PD or it may not be. You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that everything that's held by a state archive is automatically state property in terms of copyright, and then, that this magically means it's public domain. I can assure you that neither of these two ideas is true. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

::::::::::::::Elsie published the picture online, so he has the archive info. If he e-mails them to wikipedia will that be enough for the copyright status?--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 13:36, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

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