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=July 3=

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 3, 2016.

==José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz==

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:The result of the discussion was Speedy deleted. Deleted per WP:G5 by {{No ping|Bbb23}}. Steel1943 (talk) 21:29, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz }} → :Olga Sánchez Cordero  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jos%C3%A9_Rafael_Cordero_Sanch%C3%A9z&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=José_Rafael_Cordero_Sanchéz stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#José Rafael Cordero Sanchéz closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No mention of this person at the target article. Also please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Josercs1/Archive. Other itterations of the redirect are salted (see SPI for examples). ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 21:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete and salt. José is not mentioned in target, as they are unrelated, although he has previously in April added himself as a son of :es:Olga Sánchez Cordero ([//es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olga_S%C3%A1nchez_Cordero&diff=90659688&oldid=88067133 diff]). And as a son of :es:Kourtney Kardashian ([//es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kourtney_Kardashian&diff=90641293&oldid=90504986 diff]) the day before. This is a new trend for him on eswiki and enwiki: when he can't create articles about himself, he sticks his name in other articles. Third [https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gustavo_Elis&diff=91230898&oldid=90236042 example] from May. For details on this long term cross-wiki vandal's activities go to :nl:Wikipedia:Checklijst langdurig structureel vandalisme/Josercs1. Sam Sailor Talk! 13:30, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete It didn't survive WP:G5 so have to remove it the long way. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:50, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete Cross wiki vandalism that is summed up well above. -DJSasso (talk) 15:42, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Metainstitution==

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:The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 02:16, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Metainstitution }} → :Institution  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metainstitution&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Metainstitution stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Metainstitution|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Metainstitution closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Metainstitution|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Metainstitution closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Metainstitution|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Metainstitution closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Metainstitutions }} → :Institution  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Metainstitutions&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Metainstitutions stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Metainstitutions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Metainstitutions closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Metainstitutions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Metainstitutions closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Metainstitutions|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Metainstitutions closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned in target. Would Meta-power be an appropriate target? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 19:18, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Keep. I've added the term to the article with several sources. I also created Meta-institution and Meta-institutions as redirects to the target because that was commonly used by the sources I found. If deleted, the two I created can go as well. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep now that Patar knight has convincingly added the term to the target article. Uanfala (talk) 12:54, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep. Many thanks to Patar knight for updating the article. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:08, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade==

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:The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 21:41, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade }} → :Uncharted 4: A Thief's End  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uncharted_4:_The_Sunken_Blade&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Uncharted_4:_The_Sunken_Blade stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Uncharted 4: The Sunken Blade closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Rumoured name prior to the game's announcement. Ultimately just a hoax. The1337gamer (talk) 19:06, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Weak keep as a {{Tl|R from incorrect title}}. This redirect seems to appear on quite a few 2–3 year-old news articles in search engines. Steel1943 (talk) 21:00, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep per Steel1943. Sources that mention the rumoured name include the UK's Metro [http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/14/leaked-e3-line-up-names-god-of-war-4-and-zelda-shard-of-nightmare-is-probably-fake-4727212/]. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:19, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

::The article title even says "is probably fake". And it was. Just made up rubbish that occurs every single year prior to E3. We shouldn't be creating redirects for hoaxes that are forgotten about several weeks after they were posted. I could easily mock up a document in a couple of minutes now with fake game titles and post it on social media and it would probably get some attention.--The1337gamer (talk) 19:07, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete, this seems like WP:R#DELETE No. 8 to me ("novel or very obscure synonym for an article name"), 2-3 year-old news articles about a hoax? Who would look that title up? [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&start=2015-07-01&end=2016-07-01&pages=Uncharted_4:_The_Sunken_Blade Page view statistics] shows not a lot. As there's nothing in the article Uncharted 4: A Thief's End anyway that would suggest that at one point The Sunken Blade was the subtitle, how would the reader know why they're being redirected? soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 12:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete as it wasn't even a working title, and the Metro article announced that those titles were hoaxes. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:47, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete per reasons given above.  ONR  (talk)  17:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Template:Last Man on Planet Earth==

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:The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Template:Last Man on Planet Earth }} → :The Last Man on Planet Earth  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Last_Man_on_Planet_Earth&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template:Last_Man_on_Planet_Earth stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Template:Last Man on Planet Earth|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Last Man on Planet Earth closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Template:Last Man on Planet Earth|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Last Man on Planet Earth closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Template:Last Man on Planet Earth|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:Last Man on Planet Earth closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Orphaned implausible redirect to the mainspace (doesn't seem like this is R2) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:49, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Template:Editnotice/Page/The Last Man on Planet Earth==

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:The result of the discussion was delete. (G6 would most likely work on these.) -- Tavix (talk) 02:12, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Implausible redirect to the mainspace. (Doesn't seem like this is R2) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 16:49, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Director General of Indian Coast Guard==

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:The result of the discussion was move draft over redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 02:00, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Director General of Indian Coast Guard }} → :Indian Coast Guard  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Director_General_of_Indian_Coast_Guard&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Director_General_of_Indian_Coast_Guard stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Director General of Indian Coast Guard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Director General of Indian Coast Guard closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Director General of Indian Coast Guard|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Director General of Indian Coast Guard closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Director General of Indian Coast Guard|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Director General of Indian Coast Guard closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

I have created a draft for the position of the Director General of Indian Coast:Draft:Director General of Indian Coast Guard. The position is eligible to have a separate article as it is the chief of a major military force. It is similar to the United States Commandant of the Coast Guard, and so is a notable position and is adequately referenced. So I propose that this redirect should be deleted and the subsequently the draft can be accepted. KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 14:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Really you should just copy-paste the article over the redirect. Siuenti (talk) 16:25, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

:*Agreed. Antiochus the Great (talk) 17:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

:::{{re|Siuenti|Antiochus the Great}} Unless User:Krishna Chaitanya Velaga would like their ~33 edits on the draft page attributed properly. If that's the case, a move or histmerge is probably preferred. I vote delete to make way for the move. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 17:58, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment This is not the proper venue to accept AFC submissions. If and when the draft is accepted, the redirect will be taken care of. Please be patient and let the review take place. {{u|Andy M. Wang}} is correct that a copy-paste page move is not the way to proceed. And {{u|Krishna Chaitanya Velaga}}, I know you are now an AFC reviewer, but I hope you can understand the huge COI that would take place if you review your own article. Primefac (talk) 02:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

::{{u|Primefac}} Forget about the AfC what would you suggest me if I want to create the article directly. KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 12:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Zac Holtzman==

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:The result of the discussion was move draft page over redirect per creator request. Page is no longer in RfD's purview. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Zac Holtzman }} → :Dengue Fever (band)  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zac_Holtzman&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Zac_Holtzman stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Zac Holtzman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zac Holtzman closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Zac Holtzman|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zac Holtzman closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Zac Holtzman|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zac Holtzman closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Zac Holtzman is a musician. He's known as a member of two bands: Dengue Fever (band) and Dieselhed, both of which have articles. Currently Zac Holtzman redirects to Dengue Fever (band); even though I don't even know Dieselhed, it doesn't look like it does it justice. It should probably be deleted. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Mongolian Barbecue Great Place to Party==

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:The result of the discussion was barbecued. -- Tavix (talk) 01:56, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Merged to the target after a 2007 AfD, but no longer mentioned there (or anywhere else in Wikipedia besides Mongolian barbecue (disambiguation)); removed in January by User:TechBear. Target has no other incoming redirects for individual parties. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 09:02, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete - Given the extreme obscurity of the group (assuming that it wasn't just the efforts of one single individual) and the lack of information, I'd rather just get rid of the redirect. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 12:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Delete that would be like adding redirect entries for every band that attended a notable music festival even if they didn't headline anything. Consider redirect if it is close to WP:BLP1E AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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==January 1901 (month)==

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:The result of the discussion was Bot request rejected. No action taken here, since most of us who participated went only to the BRFA; it wouldn't be right to take any actions here without further input. SSTflyer, if you want, I'll create a new RFD and copy the votes from Tavix and Patar knight. Nyttend (talk) 12:49, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = January 1901 (month) }} → :January 1901  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=January_1901_(month)&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=January_1901_(month) stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:January 1901 (month)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#January 1901 (month) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:January 1901 (month)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#January 1901 (month) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:January 1901 (month)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#January 1901 (month) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This nomination is to inform editors of Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/GTBot, a proposal to create 615 new redirects using an AWB bot. Please place all discussion about the bot task at the BRFA page, and discussion about this particular redirect here. I support keeping this particular redirect because it is unambiguous and harmless, and I have already expressed my opinions on this bot task at the BRFA. SSTflyer 08:21, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Delete, truly a useless redirect since there's nothing else that could reasonably be construed to mean "January 1901." {{tl|R from unnecessary disambiguation}}s are useful when, for example, there's a primary topic and it's reasonable to expect disambiguation or it's otherwise ambiguous. That's not the case here. -- Tavix (talk) 16:33, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. Mostly useless, harmless redirect. Though unlikely, it is possible that someone wants to be extra sure they get the month and use the disambiguator. Since it's already been created, I'm okay with leaving it. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:56, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Help:Curly braces==

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:The result of the discussion was revert to old version. If there weren't history, I would've deleted to allow the creation of a new page. Since the previous version is so old, I'm going to tag it as historical until it's updated. --BDD (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Curly braces }} → :Help:Template  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Curly_braces&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Curly_braces stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Curly braces|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Curly braces closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Curly braces|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Curly braces closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Curly braces|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Curly braces closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The redirect seems like it could be misleading since in wiki software, "curly braces" { and } aren't exclusive to templates. They are also used to transclude pages in general and used to activate magic words. Steel1943 (talk) 04:26, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Note: The nominated redirect is a {{Tl|R with history}}. Steel1943 (talk) 04:27, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Make a landing page with links to help pages for templates, transclusions, magic words. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:29, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

:*That's what I was thinking as well, probably working from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Curly_braces&oldid=14492604 this revision]. Steel1943 (talk) 20:42, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

:::Something like that, modernized and with links would be fantastic. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 21:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Make a landing page per Patar knight. Might also help to point to the various template example templates {{tl|tl}} since that is something someone searching for curly braces might be interested in. PaleAqua (talk) 06:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Help:Cite template==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Citation templates. --BDD (talk) 21:34, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite template }} → :Template:Cite journal  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_template&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_template stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite template|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite template closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite template|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite template closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite template|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite template closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

I didn't include this one in the section below (#Help:Cite... redirects towards eponymous pages in Template namespace) since its name is not eponymous with its target. It's still a confusing WP:XNR, but this one probably has a more likely and helpful retargeting option than the others due to its name, such as Wikipedia:Citation templates#Examples. Steel1943 (talk) 04:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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==Help:Cite... redirects towards eponymous pages in Template namespace==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget all to current target templates' respective documentation pages (Previous target + /doc). All participants in this discussion (including myself, the nominator) have arrived at the conclusion that this seems like a good option to assist readers with finding what they are looking for when searching these terms, so enacting this as the possibly-most helpful option. Steel1943 (talk) 15:17, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

::Additional note: Per the result of this discussion, I also created {{No redirect|Help:Cite AV media}} as a redirect towards Template:Cite AV media/doc since it matches the target template page's capitalization. Steel1943 (talk) 16:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite DVD notes }} → :Template:Cite DVD notes  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_DVD_notes&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_DVD_notes stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite DVD notes|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite DVD notes closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite DVD notes|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite DVD notes closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite DVD notes|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite DVD notes closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite arXiv }} → :Template:Cite arXiv  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_arXiv&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_arXiv stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite arXiv|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite arXiv closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite arXiv|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite arXiv closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite arXiv|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite arXiv closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite arxiv }} → :Template:Cite arXiv  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_arxiv&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_arxiv stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite arxiv|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite arxiv closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite arxiv|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite arxiv closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite arxiv|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite arxiv closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite av media }} → :Template:Cite AV media  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_av_media&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_av_media stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite av media|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite av media closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite av media|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite av media closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite av media|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite av media closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite book }} → :Template:Cite book  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_book&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_book stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite book|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite book closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite book|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite book closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite book|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite book closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite conference }} → :Template:Cite conference  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_conference&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_conference stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite conference|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite conference closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite conference|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite conference closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite conference|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite conference closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite encyclopedia }} → :Template:Cite encyclopedia  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_encyclopedia&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_encyclopedia stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite encyclopedia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite encyclopedia closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite encyclopedia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite encyclopedia closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite encyclopedia|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite encyclopedia closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite episode }} → :Template:Cite episode  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_episode&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_episode stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite episode|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite episode closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite episode|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite episode closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite episode|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite episode closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite interview }} → :Template:Cite interview  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_interview&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_interview stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite interview|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite interview closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite interview|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite interview closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite interview|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite interview closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite journal }} → :Template:Cite journal  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_journal&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_journal stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite journal|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite journal closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite journal|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite journal closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite journal|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite journal closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite mailing list }} → :Template:Cite mailing list  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_mailing_list&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_mailing_list stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite mailing list|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite mailing list closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite mailing list|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite mailing list closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite mailing list|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite mailing list closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite map }} → :Template:Cite map  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_map&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_map stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite map|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite map closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite map|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite map closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite map|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite map closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite news }} → :Template:Cite news  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_news&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_news stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite news|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite news closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite news|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite news closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite news|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite news closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite newsgroup }} → :Template:Cite newsgroup  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_newsgroup&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_newsgroup stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite newsgroup|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite newsgroup closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite newsgroup|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite newsgroup closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite newsgroup|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite newsgroup closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite podcast }} → :Template:Cite podcast  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_podcast&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_podcast stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite podcast|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite podcast closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite podcast|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite podcast closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite podcast|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite podcast closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite press release }} → :Template:Cite press release  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_press_release&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_press_release stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite press release|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite press release closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite press release|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite press release closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite press release|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite press release closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite report }} → :Template:Cite report  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_report&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_report stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite report|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite report closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite report|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite report closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite report|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite report closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite serial }} → :Template:Cite serial  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_serial&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_serial stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite serial|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite serial closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite serial|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite serial closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite serial|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite serial closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite sign }} → :Template:Cite sign  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_sign&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_sign stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite sign|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite sign closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite sign|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite sign closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite sign|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite sign closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite speech }} → :Template:Cite speech  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_speech&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_speech stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite speech|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite speech closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite speech|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite speech closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite speech|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite speech closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite techreport }} → :Template:Cite techreport  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_techreport&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_techreport stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite techreport|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite techreport closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite techreport|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite techreport closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite techreport|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite techreport closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite thesis }} → :Template:Cite thesis  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_thesis&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_thesis stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite thesis|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite thesis closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite thesis|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite thesis closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite thesis|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite thesis closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Help:Cite web }} → :Template:Cite web  (links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Cite_web&action=history history] · [//tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews#start=2016-06-03&end=2016-07-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Help:Cite_web stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Help:Cite web|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite web closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite web|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite web closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Help:Cite web|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Help:Cite web closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

These WP:XNR redirects seem misleading since the redirects do not provide the reader with a how-to guide about how/when to site these sources, but rather leads the reader to a template page. My original thought was to redirect all of these redirects to Help:Citations, but detailed information about the specifics regarding the "5 Ws" about citing related sources are not there either. Steel1943 (talk) 03:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Keep all. The template pages do have documentation about how to use them, which is what people who specifically type "Help:TEMPLATE NAME" would be looking for. All the templates link to Help:Citation Style 1 at the very top of tehir pages anyway. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep all—I created these becasuse, even as a moderately experienced user, I needed occasional help with template parameters and thus would type in "HELP: