Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 May 25#1528038865
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==Government Act==
==Cooking/Boiling==
:The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
:The result of the discussion was delete
- {{no redirect|1 = Cooking/Boiling }} → :Boiling (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cooking/Boiling&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-04-17&end=2018-05-16&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Cooking%2FBoiling stats])
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WP:XY. Cooking is a separate article. Steel1943 (talk) 04:02, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Delete - Wikipedia isn't a cooking guide, anyways. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- Keep and refine to Boiling#In cooking. This is a {{temp|R from subpage}} and {{temp|R with old history}} as it was the original location of the "boiling" article back when Wikipedia used that naming convention. It's doing no harm, and nobody is going to use this to find the "cooking" article so WP:XY doesn't apply. Thryduulf (talk) 15:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC) The "In cooking" section is exactly what someone searching for this will be looking for - the use of boiling as a method of cooking. Thryduulf (talk) 12:38, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- FWIW, {{Tl|R from subpage}} doesn't apply to pages in the "(article)" namespace. Steel1943 (talk) 00:05, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- Yes it does, see the second bullet "If this redirect is in mainspace, then it will populate the Redirects with old history category bold-linked above;" Thryduulf (talk) 12:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- ...Which means that the {{Tl|R from subpage}} tag is redundant and unnecessary since on "(article)" namespace pages, {{Tl|R with old history}} should be used instead. Steel1943 (talk) 13:16, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- No, it just means that using both tags is unnecessary - {{temp|R from subpage}} is just more specific. We don't say that {{temp|R from American spelling}} is redundant since {{temp|R from other spelling}} exists. Thryduulf (talk) 13:21, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, per the first sentence of Wikipedia:Subpages, subpages technically don't exist in the "(article)" namespace here. Steel1943 (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- But the point is that they used to, and these redirects exist to avoid breaking links from outside Wikipedia made during that time. We really should not break those links without a very good reason - and not simply not quite fitting into a neat box for editors is a very bad reason. Thryduulf (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- ...Which is the purpose of {{Tl|R with old history}}. I do believe that this is about to turn into a circular conversation, so I must now walk away from this discussion tangent. Steel1943 (talk) 00:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, these are different topics. -- Tavix (talk) 16:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 20:44, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Delete- While certainly boiling things is often a part of cooking, Tavix is still totally correct that these are two seperate topics. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:21, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
:*!vote struck as user already did so above ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:09, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Judging from the deletion log, the ancient article at this title appears to have been history-merged into Boiling, so the only reason to preserve this redirect is out of deference to incoming external links. But given the antiquity of this title – I can't see the deleted part of the history, but the article appears to have been moved away from this title well over a decade ago – I don't see this rationale as having continuing relevance today. – Uanfala (talk) 12:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Weak delete - As much as I adore old history, I think deletion is best in this case. Whereas e.g. {{no redirect|Wheel of Time/Way Gates}} is clearly discernable as a subtopic, {{no redirect|Cooking/Boiling}} appears more like an WP:XY; cooking is akin to boiling (and may have been the primary means of cooking in some places in the past) while wheel of time is not akin to way gates. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 02:24, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
