Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 3#Bully club

• {{no redirect|1 = J.B.O. discography }} → JBO (band)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J.B.O._discography&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-07-04&end=2019-08-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=J.B.O._discography stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:J.B.O. discography|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#J.B.O. discography closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:J.B.O. discography|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#J.B.O. discography closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:J.B.O. discography|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#J.B.O. discography closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Better as a redlink to encourage expansion of the encyclopedia. Wug·a·po·des​ 04:19, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

• also {{no redirect|1=JBO discography}} for the same reason
• Keep - The nominator rationale doesn’t make any sense to me. Surely if someone wants to "expand the encyclopedia", a redirect won’t stand in the way of that. This is also a very likely search term and the context is completely justified.—NØ 04:42, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
• Keep There's already Intentionally permanent red link for things that are better as a redlink. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 05:23, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Night&Fly }} → CityNightLine  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Night%26Fly&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-07-04&end=2019-08-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Night%26Fly stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Night&Fly|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Night&Fly closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Night&Fly|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Night&Fly closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Night&Fly|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Night&Fly closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

I can't find in the article or on Google how this redirect is related to its target. Wug·a·po·des​ 03:41, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

• Delete. ({{ill|de|Rail&Fly}}) is a real concept, but not related to CityNightLine. Mackensen (talk) 11:45, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Anorexia }} → :Anorexia nervosa  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anorexia&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-07-04&end=2019-08-02&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Anorexia stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Anorexia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Anorexia closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Anorexia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Anorexia closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Anorexia|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Anorexia closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Since anorexia has an actual meaning - and one which is distinct from anorexia nervosa - it is problematic to redirect one to the other. Prior to 2015 WP's page for anorexia was a disambiguation page which is now at Anorexia (disambiguation); I can find no evidence of consensus for the move User:Doc James performed. I am requesting that the disambiguation page be reinstated as the article for Anorexia. Magic9mushroom (talk) 02:00, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

• Keep as being a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Anorexia (symptom) is much more of a technical term (and should in my opinion be renamed to "loss of appetite" although that's a matter for another discussion). – Thjarkur (talk) 02:24, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

::Perhaps I should elaborate on the history here. "Anorexia" is literally the Ancient Greek for "loss of appetite". Anorexia nervosa was named as such because it appeared (as we now know, incorrectly) to involve a loss of appetite (and the name stuck due to inertia). While incorrect use of "anorexia" to mean "anorexia nervosa" is very common, and as such it would be inappropriate to make Anorexia the page for the symptom, redirecting educated people who know what the word means to something other than what the word means merely to save uneducated people a disambiguation seems foul and perverse. Magic9mushroom (talk) 03:04, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

• Keep, Anorexia (symptom) averages [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Anorexia_(symptom) 200 page views a day], Anorexia nervosa gets [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Anorexia_nervosa 2,000]. For comparison, Anorexia gets [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Anorexia 111] and Anorexia (disambiguation) gets [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Anorexia_(disambiguation) a measly 11]. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 05:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:COMMONNAME. In common vernacular it is never referred to by the full scientific name._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
• Keep per the above reasoning. Anorexia is the common name for anorexia nervosa. When the medical profession wants to say "loss of appetite" we just say so in English. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Wug·a·po·des​ 06:34, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

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