Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 December 31#ExtremeFFS

• {{no redirect|1 = Yaviah }} → :Héctor el Father  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Yaviah&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-11-24&end=2019-12-23&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Yaviah stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Yaviah|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Yaviah closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Yaviah|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Yaviah closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Yaviah|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Yaviah closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 23:08, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

::It does mention Yaviah in the Playero 37, Playero 38 Articles. It could redirect there.~SML • TP —Preceding undated comment added 23:58, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:XY per the above and due to a few other minor usages (eg: an artist formerly with Pina Records). I don't think there is anything that would be useful to disambiguate and it appears the search results handle this word well. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:56, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi }} → :Sacred Heart School, Sitamarhi  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sacred_Heat_School%E2%80%9A_Sitamarhi&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-12-01&end=2019-12-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sacred_Heat_School%E2%80%9A_Sitamarhi stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sacred Heat School‚ Sitamarhi closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Typo in name, I don't see any value in keeping this redirect. Nothing links to it except a user page and talk page. Also taking into account of the many Sacred Heart School's that don't have this typo redirect if that means anything Steven (Editor) (talk) 21:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

• Delete as typo and unhelpful. Typing "sacred hea" in the search box gets any reader started. (I couldn't justify redirects from e.g. "Heats (suit)", "None but the Lonely Heat" or "Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heats Club Band" either.) Narky Blert (talk) 23:15, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Wowsmith123456@posteo.net }} → :2017 cyberattacks on Ukraine  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wowsmith123456@posteo.net&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-11-16&end=2019-12-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wowsmith123456%40posteo.net stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wowsmith123456@posteo.net|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wowsmith123456@posteo.net closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wowsmith123456@posteo.net|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wowsmith123456@posteo.net closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wowsmith123456@posteo.net|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wowsmith123456@posteo.net closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Bit of an odd one. No mention in the article, nor does the word "email" even show up. {{\:}} –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 23:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

• Comment @User:MJL it's in the top picture of the article. Seems to be the e-mail used by the ransomware. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:13, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
• :{{re|Lenticel}} Oh, huh good catch. I struck that line from the nomination statement, but I'm going to leave this open. I can't imagine it still would be particularly useful as a navigational tool. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 00:21, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
• Weak keep: while not mentioned in the article, it is related. Plausible search term? Maybe. Anarchyte (talk | work) 14:04, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

• Weak keep as plausible search term since it's allegedly the email used by the ransomware. Willing to reconsider if it turns out there are multiple emails since redirects like these are not something I'd want to see many of. — Wug·a·po·des​ 18:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Online video distributor }} → :Over-the-top media service  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Online_video_distributor&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-11-07&end=2019-12-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Online_video_distributor stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Online video distributor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Online video distributor closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Online video distributor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Online video distributor closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Online video distributor|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Online video distributor closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Online Video Distributor }} → :Over-the-top media service  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Online_Video_Distributor&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-11-07&end=2019-12-06&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Online_Video_Distributor stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Online Video Distributor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Online Video Distributor closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Online Video Distributor|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Online Video Distributor closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Online Video Distributor|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Online Video Distributor closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The specific wording in these redirects is not exclusive to its target, or any target for that matter. For example, someone could look up these terms expecting to find Streaming media or Internet video. It's probably best to just delete these redirects and allow Wikipedia's search function to assist readers in finding the subject they are attempting to locate. Steel1943 (talk) 13:56, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose This also involves the OVD disambiguation page. What would we put there? I must have seen the term somewhere if I added the entry or created the redirects. When I have access to where I believe I saw the term, probably Wednesday, I can be more specific. Unfortunately, there is likely a subscription required for the source I used.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:44, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
• Looking at the OVD page, the only connection I see is the line that reads "{{Tq|Online video distributor, also known as over-the-top media services}}". I would say that line is probably incorrect and should be removed unless there is some sort of reference added into the Over-the-top media service article proving that these redirects are an alternative name for their target. Without such a notable connection, these redirects are no more than unreferenced WP:NEO. Steel1943 (talk) 02:36, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

::*Again, I need to see the source I was looking at when I created the redirect. That will be possible on Wednesday.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:38, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

:::Okay, here's the first source.

:::Eggerton, John., "FCC Rethinks Over-the-Top Decision, Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 143, Iss. 11, (Mar 18, 2013): 18.

:::However, it uses the term "over-the-top video distributor". I could change the disambiguation page.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

:::Bingo!

:::Eggerton, John, "For FCC, These Are Defining Times for MVPDs, Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 142, Iss. 26, (Jun 25, 2012): 26.

:::If I may be permitted to quote, "OVDs (online video distributors) are not like MVPDs because they do not control the transmission path for the programming they deliver." However, the article lists ivi inc., FilmOn and Aereo TV, which offer "online transmission of TV station signals". That's not streaming or over-the-top. (Wait, what I do with WNAM radio is called "streaming".) It's possible that since this article was written, the definitions have changed. Even the article above has changed OVD to "over-the-top". Perhaps the term "online video distributor" is outdated because that model didn't work. However, another source from 2017 says "OVD services provided by Netflix, Amazon Prime Video and Hulu".

:::Eggerton, John, "Pai Tees Up Fresh Look at Competition, Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 147, Iss. 20, (Sep 4-Sep 11, 2017): 26.

:::Doesn't look like the redirect has a real meaning now.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:54, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

::::Okay, I'm back.

::::Eggerton, John, "Reading Between Lines On Comcast/NBCU," Broadcasting & Cable; New York: Vol. 141, Iss. 5, (Jan 31, 2011): 20.

::::No definition but OVD is said to stand for "online video distribution". This is a service that has "just begun" according to an FCC order.

::::Here's another one.

::::"Place Your Bets,", Broadcasting & Cable: New York: Vol. 141, Iss. 7, (Feb 14, 2011): 24.

::::The FCC had certain requirements when Comcast and Universal made a deal. "[T]he new acronym - as if we needed yet another one" was OVD, for "online video distributor".— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:58, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

• Vchimpanzee, I'm having trouble understanding your comments, as a potential closer. You're showing uses of the phrase, but you've also said, "Doesn't look like the redirect has a real meaning now." Are you still opposed to deletion? --BDD (talk) 16:09, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

:At this point, it's not clear. The one meaning that I think led me to create the redirect is one that doesn't seem to be in current use. But there are other meanings. It's just not clear whether the meaning has evolved. This was just one set of sources, and I needed to go there when I had the opportunity. I want to look at some other sources and see what they say.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

::What do you want to do? I want to look at some more sources before we do anything.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

::[https://www.kandutsch.com/glossary/online-video-distributor-or-ovd Here] is a 2014 definition from a telecommunications law firm which supports keeping the redirect.

::[https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-12-80A1.doc Here] is an FCC document. I can't easily get to page 59 because there are too many windows open on this computer.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:32, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

• Nominator comment: Even with the above comments, I still stand by my "delete" stance since my concern has yet to be adequately resolved per the string of comments. Steel1943 (talk) 23:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = WABC New York }} → :WABC-TV  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WABC_New_York&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-12-01&end=2019-12-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=WABC_New_York stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:WABC New York|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WABC New York closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:WABC New York|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WABC New York closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:WABC New York|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WABC New York closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

WABC-TV is not the only New York station with the base call sign of "WABC" — there is also WABC (AM). Indeed, under FCC station identification policies, "WABC New York" is the ID for the radio station, not WABC-TV. (Worth noting too, that of the five entries on the WABC disambiguation page, only one — for a defunct British radio station — does not refer to a broadcast station in New York City.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:54, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

• Retarget to WABC#New York broadcasters. Given the 4 NYC broadcasters it could refer to, a disambiguation page would be ideal, and per nom, WABC pretty much already does that with the addition of 1 non-new york station. So I divided them into sections so we can retarget the redirect there. — Wug·a·po·des​ 18:49, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = You Banbury cheese! }} → :Banbury cheese#Insult  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=You_Banbury_cheese!&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-12-01&end=2019-12-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=You_Banbury_cheese%21 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:You Banbury cheese!|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#You Banbury cheese! closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:You Banbury cheese!|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#You Banbury cheese! closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:You Banbury cheese!|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#You Banbury cheese! closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

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Not encyclopedic, and does not appear to be a likely search term besides being a quote from The Merry Wives of Windsor. People searching for information about how "Banbury cheese" is used as an insult would most likely just search for "Banbury cheese". Utopes (talk) 03:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = WRN (AM) }} → :WWHK (AM)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WRN_(AM)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-12-01&end=2019-12-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=WRN_%28AM%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:WRN (AM)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WRN (AM) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:WRN (AM)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WRN (AM) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:WRN (AM)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#WRN (AM) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

This station has never had the call sign WRN (as best as I can tell, no station has — nor can any broadcast station under current FCC policy), nor has it branded as such. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = High Heeled Shoes (album) }} → :Megan McKenna  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=High_Heeled_Shoes_(album)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-12-01&end=2019-12-30&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=High_Heeled_Shoes_%28album%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:High Heeled Shoes (album)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#High Heeled Shoes (album) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:High Heeled Shoes (album)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#High Heeled Shoes (album) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:High Heeled Shoes (album)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#High Heeled Shoes (album) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Perhaps it was the working title for Story of Me, but neither her biography or the album establishes it. © Tbhotch^™ (en-3). 00:22, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

• Delete. It was never the working title of her debut album, and is instead just a disambiguation of High Heeled Shoes (song), McKenna's debut single/EP. This redirect serves no purpose to Wikipedia. – DarkGlow (talk) 00:27, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

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