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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 16, 2019.

==Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain?==

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to Texperts#Publications. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:28, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain? }} → :118 118 (UK)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Do_Sheep_Shrink_in_the_Rain%3F&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-17&end=2019-02-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Do_Sheep_Shrink_in_the_Rain%3F stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain?|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain? closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain?|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain? closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain?|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Do Sheep Shrink in the Rain? closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete. Ha ha ha, I get it. But not mentioned in the target article, so no. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:09, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Note This is a {{temp|R from merge}}. Thryduulf (talk) 23:29, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete. As far as I can tell, nothing was actually merged; [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=253052798 here we have a statement] from MickMackNee that it was merged, but [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=261493769 this revision] of the target (first edit by MickMackNee after the first link I gave) says nothing about sheep. Obviously not a plausible search term. UnitedStatesian, since you got it, can you explain the connection? I don't get it at all :-) Nyttend (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
  • {{yo|Nyttend}}: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Do_Sheep_Shrink_in_the_Rain%3F&oldid=151084364], [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sheep-Shrink-Rain-Outrageous-Questions/dp/0753511797]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:43, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Texperts#Publications where the book with this name is mentioned. Thryduulf (talk) 00:56, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Texperts#Publications as an actual book title like Why Do Men Have Nipples? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:38, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Texperts#Publications, and.... YES THEY DO. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:41, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Pulpit robe==

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==Zorua and Zoroark==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus. This obviously does not preclude a merge, which can be discussed on the article talk page.

Thryduulf (talk) 20:49, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Zorua and Zoroark }} → :List of generation V Pokémon#Zorua and Zoroark  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zorua_and_Zoroark&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-12-28&end=2019-01-26&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Zorua_and_Zoroark stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Zorua and Zoroark|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zorua and Zoroark closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Zorua and Zoroark|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zorua and Zoroark closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Zorua and Zoroark|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Zorua and Zoroark closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

There is a draft in AFC for Draft:Zorua and Zoroark, but that title in article space is occupied by a redirect to List of generation V Pokémon. There was previously an article on Zorua and Zoroark, which was then stubbed down to a redirect. If there was discussion prior to the stubbing/redirection, it was done other than on the talk page. The draft has as much information as some other Pokemon species that have stand-alone articles. The options for this redirect are: (1) keep redirect as is, and decline draft; (2) delete redirect, and promote draft to mainspace; (3) merge, by copying draft into mainspace in place of redirect; (4) other.

Recommend (3), merge, by copying draft text into mainspace with histmerge. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

  • (1) keep redirect, decline draft. Its Reception section's listicles are trivia that should be reduced to a single sentence. If there is no out-of-universe coverage, the common practice is to build the article summary style with the parent section. So by that accord, I recommend merging the draft's contents into the redirect's current section target. (not watching, please {{tl|ping}}) czar 03:18, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment as author I'm not going to vote but I imagine fitting the contents into a single table cell would be tricky. Juxlos (talk) 09:00, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

::: I don't quite understand why the list was converted to a table format but nevertheless should be reasonable to merge the most important non-trivia. czar 23:33, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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  • Comment - It's time to close this either as Keep or as No Consensus, which has the effect of a keep. I'm going to decline the draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:20, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Kyoko Sakura==

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:The result of the discussion was keep

. Nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure) AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 03:41, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Kyoko Sakura }} → :List of Puella Magi Madoka Magica characters  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kyoko_Sakura&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-12-29&end=2019-01-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Kyoko_Sakura stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Kyoko Sakura|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kyoko Sakura closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Kyoko Sakura|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kyoko Sakura closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Kyoko Sakura|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Kyoko Sakura closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

A stand-alone article draft has been developed. The question is whether the article should be accepted in place of an entry in a list of the characters. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:51, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

:See Draft:Kyoko Sakura. Robert McClenon (talk) 10:21, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose - I have to reluctantly oppose this as the size does not warrant out a split. I compared this to an article which I was able to bump up to GA status with a length of 18k bytes, but this is a different case as things like the plot are overly detailed. I think it would show more for notability if Kyoko had some kind of a cultural impact like Homura Akemi. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

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  • Comment I've added R with possibilities to this redirect. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 21:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Hi, I created the draft. Please decline it, thank you! NotEnglishSpeaker (talk) 20:35, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

:: {{u| NotEnglishSpeaker }}, does that mean it's not ready to be published? Are you still going to work on one anyway, or abandon it / have it deleted? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:46, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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  • Comment - This redirect does not appear to be up for deletion as the article is not ready for the main-space yet. Angus has linked possibilities in regards to the draft so we just need to see if things can be improved. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:51, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Question for User:Knowledgekid87 - I am not sure what you mean by saying that the "redirect does not appear to be up for deletion as the article is not ready for the main-space yet". A draft has been submitted to AFC for review and is waiting for this RFD. Do you mean that you do not think that the draft is ready for acceptance? It has been submitted for acceptance, and the purpose of this RFD is to decide whether it should be accepted. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:03, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

:*Well I mean this discussion has been open for almost a month now, and the creator has not responded other than to say "Please decline it". I do not feel the draft is ready for acceptance due to concerns raised. For reference I have also penned WP:A&M/CHARACTER which is a composite of a good character article. Without enough outside notability, the information presented is mostly in-universe fandom. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:21, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

::: I'm gonna go ahead and decline the request per submitter. {{u| Knowledgekid87}}, if you have concerns about notability you can list it on the talk page of that draft or the AFC reviewers' section. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep redirect and withdraw RFD, as draft has been declined. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:18, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Claw (Marvel Comics)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Chaste (Marvel Comics)#Members. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:29, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Claw (Marvel Comics) }} → :List of Marvel Comics characters: C#Claw  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Claw_(Marvel_Comics)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-03&end=2019-02-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Claw_%28Marvel_Comics%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Claw (Marvel Comics)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Claw (Marvel Comics) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Claw (Marvel Comics)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Claw (Marvel Comics) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Claw (Marvel Comics)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Claw (Marvel Comics) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No incoming links in article space. Redirects to section that was deleted([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters:_C&oldid=853484676]) due to the character only having five appearances. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 22:53, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Note: I found a link to the section anchor and have changed it to link to this redirect, but it's a namedrop and could be deleted without affecting the article. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 03:27, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

:*Retarget to Chaste (Marvel Comics). BOZ (talk) 01:55, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Chaka (comics)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters#Enemies. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:29, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Chaka (comics) }} → :List of Marvel Comics characters: C#Chaka  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chaka_(comics)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-03&end=2019-02-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Chaka_%28comics%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Chaka (comics)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chaka (comics) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Chaka (comics)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chaka (comics) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Chaka (comics)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Chaka (comics) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirects to anchor that was deleted due to the character only appearing five times. ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters:_C&diff=853353942&oldid=853353712]) No plausible retarget. Should be deleted. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 22:58, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

:*Retarget to List of Luke Cage and Iron Fist supporting characters. BOZ (talk) 01:54, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Centurion (comics)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Nova Corps. -- Tavix (talk) 15:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Centurion (comics) }} → :List of Marvel Comics characters: C#Centurion  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Centurion_(comics)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-03&end=2019-02-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Centurion_%28comics%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Centurion (comics)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Centurion (comics) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Centurion (comics)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Centurion (comics) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Centurion (comics)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Centurion (comics) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

No pages link to this in article space. Redirects to a section that was deleted. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 23:05, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Daddy Longlegs (comics)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Karl Malus. -- Tavix (talk) 15:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Target section was deleted due to lack of incoming links and the fact that the character only appears five times ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Marvel_Comics_characters:_D&oldid=847246395]). No suitable place to retarget. Only incoming link in article space is a passing mention of the character that provides sufficient context. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 23:44, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

:*Can be retargeted to Karl Malus. BOZ (talk) 01:50, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Voltron: Defender Of The Universe==

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==Pre$cription For Power==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. -- Tavix (talk) 15:59, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Pre$cription For Power }} → :Kaiser Family Foundation  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pre$cription_For_Power&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-12-26&end=2019-01-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Pre%24cription_For_Power stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Pre$cription For Power|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pre$cription For Power closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Pre$cription For Power|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pre$cription For Power closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Pre$cription For Power|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Pre$cription For Power closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned in target. It is a database of donations by pharma companies. Reasonable redirect if discussed in target, but it's not. MB 03:40, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Weak keep as it is a database from Kaiser Health News / Kaiser Family Foundation that got coverage in 2016 and 2018. Could be mentioned with this announcement. [https://khn.org/news/patient-advocacy-groups-take-in-millions-from-drugmakers-is-there-a-payback/] and general news coverage: [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/drug-companies-pay-116-million-to-patient-advocacy-groups-in-2015-alone-new-data-suggests] [https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/As-drug-prices-soar-drugmakers-keep-setting-records-for-campaign-donations_172716910] [https://abcnews.go.com/Health/drugmakers-funnel-millions-lawmakers-dozen-100000/story?id=58536006] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

::Unless/until included in the article, redirect fails WP:ASTONISH. MB 15:50, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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==Legal text==

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==Underrated (album)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Underrated (disambiguation). If the RM discussion passes (and it looks like it will), a bot should fix this redirect to point to the new title. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Underrated (album) }} → :Bow Wow (rapper)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Underrated_(album)&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-17&end=2019-02-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Underrated_%28album%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Underrated (album)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Underrated (album) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Underrated (album)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Underrated (album) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Underrated (album)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Underrated (album) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete redirect for album that will not be released in the foreseeable future. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:45, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

::Please note I put an RM at Underrated (disambiguation) to move to Underrated. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:47, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Deathism==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Death and culture. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 16:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Deathism }} → :Anti-aging movement  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deathism&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-17&end=2019-02-15&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Deathism stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Deathism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Deathism closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Deathism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Deathism closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Deathism|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Deathism closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Surprising redirect from antonym. Term not discussed in target article and can also refer to culture of death (which is a very similar concept but originating from different circles). Propose deletion as we don't have a broad-concept article for “culture of death” which could be the only sensible place to retarget this to. Nowak Kowalski (talk) 11:47, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment this could point to Death and culture or Death as it seems to be about how people perceive death, [https://www.vanityfair.com/news/tech/2014/11/artificial-intelligence-singularity-theory] but it's a relatively new term. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:51, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Death and culture. That seems to make the most sense to me. [https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2013/03/is-deathism-a-useful-term/ Here's a 2013 non-RS article on the matter] (probably the same logic behind current target). ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-☖ 01:28, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Fall of Capitalism==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Late capitalism. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Fall of Capitalism }} → :Financial crisis of 2007–2008  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fall_of_Capitalism&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-09&end=2019-02-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Fall_of_Capitalism stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Fall of Capitalism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fall of Capitalism closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fall of Capitalism|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fall of Capitalism closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fall of Capitalism|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Fall of Capitalism closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Searching this term gives me uses in several contexts, so it seems inappropriate for this to target a specific event. -- Tavix (talk) 15:04, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Weak retarget to Late capitalism. I don't claim to be an expert on the topic, but popular usage of the phrase, at least, suggests these would be mostly synonymous. --BDD (talk) 17:05, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Root two==

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to Square root of 2. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 07:37, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Root two }} → :List of numbers  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Root_two&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-09&end=2019-02-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Root_two stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Root two|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Root two closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Root two|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Root two closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Root two|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Root two closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Root 2 }} → :Square root of 2  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Root_2&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-09&end=2019-02-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Root_2 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Root 2|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Root 2 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Root 2|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Root 2 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Root 2|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Root 2 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirects from randomly created numbers are WP:COSTLY B dash (talk) 09:53, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment Articles exist for the square root of 2, cube root of 2, and twelfth root of 2. I'll add root 2 to this discussion for completeness. -- Tavix (talk) 15:24, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Square root of 2 and add hatnotes to the other roots as Google searches show that √2 is the primary topic for "root 2". I'll ping the maths project though. Thryduulf (talk) 19:55, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete: I don't see a need for these redirects. -- Taku (talk) 03:30, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment What in the world does "randomly created numbers" in this context mean? We have an article titled Square root of 2, and in common colloquial speech that is what "root 2" or "root two" refers to. Michael Hardy (talk) 18:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete. "Root 2" does not have a common meaning. Square root of 2 is plausible, but I don't think I could justify it being the principal meaning. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 22:12, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Google results show that the square root of 2 is very much the common meaning of "root 2". Thryduulf (talk) 01:45, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • {{ping|Arthur Rubin}} It's not part of standard language used in print. In informal spoken language it is not unusual and it is generally understood. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:50, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Square root of 2 , exactly per Thryduulf. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:53, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Square root of 2, the commonplace meaning. XOR'easter (talk) 20:39, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to 2, where I would expect discussion of the notable roots of 2 to be. I see the square root is already discussed, and I think the others should be added likewise. -- Tavix (talk) 14:48, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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==0,9==

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==Desert Desert==

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==Positive data==

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==Application programming==

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. There's some good discussion on whether a different target may be better, but there is no agreement on that front. -- Tavix (talk) 15:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Application programming }} → :Computer programming  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Application_programming&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2018-12-29&end=2019-01-27&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Application_programming stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Application programming|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Application programming closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Application programming|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Application programming closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Application programming|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Application programming closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete. Application programming denotes a specific kind of programming which as such is not dealt with in the given target article. Hildeoc (talk) 08:42, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep - 'Application programming' has an older sensu lato that is not restricted to a specific kind of programming. The article should be tweaked, but the redirect should not be deleted. Robert McClenon (talk) 10:26, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

:{{re|Robert McClenon}} Then it should be taken care that the term "Application programming" is mentioned there (in boldface) as per WP:R#PLA.--Hildeoc (talk) 17:16, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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  • Retarget to Mobile app development if applications refers to apps. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:48, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Or retarget to Application development, which is broader Qzekrom (talk) 19:52, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - Application programming denotes a specific kind of programming which is dealt with in the target article, though the term is not mentioned by name. The chess illustration at the top of Computer programming is a good example of application programming. Traditionally it means all programming for a direct real-world purpose, as opposed to system programming which provides platforms and tools for application programmers. It includes but is not limited to mobile app development, which is a small subset of application programming. Certes (talk) 15:45, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • :Application development might be a better target if we had an article at that title, but I don't think either link on that dab addresses the incoming links as well as Computer programming. Certes (talk) 22:08, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Eastern European music==

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. -- Tavix (talk) 15:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Eastern European music }} → :Category:Eastern European music  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eastern_European_music&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-07&end=2019-02-05&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Eastern_European_music stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Eastern European music|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Eastern European music closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Eastern European music|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Eastern European music closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Eastern European music|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Eastern European music closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Music of Eastern Europe }} → :Category:Eastern European music  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Music_of_Eastern_Europe&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-07&end=2019-02-05&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Music_of_Eastern_Europe stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Music of Eastern Europe|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Music of Eastern Europe closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Music of Eastern Europe|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Music of Eastern Europe closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Music of Eastern Europe|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Music of Eastern Europe closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The cross-namespace target does not provide information about eastern European music (perhaps because it's not a recognisable genre), but is a category containing articles about music of eastern European nations. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 22:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

  • N.b., {{no redirect|European music}} redirects to Culture of Europe#Music, which is mostly an awful list of European musical acts sorted by country. Eastern Europe doesn't have a distinct culture or music section, though it reminds us that "Eastern Europe" is broad enough an idea that we might well have difficulty describing something like "Eastern European music" except as a container for the music of its individual countries. --BDD (talk) 22:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

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Delete both. In this case redlinks (to encourage article creation) are better than cross-namespace redirects. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:11, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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==Whatsername==

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:The result of the discussion was disambiguate -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Whatsername }} → :American Idiot  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whatsername&action=history history] · [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews?start=2019-01-07&end=2019-02-05&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Whatsername stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Whatsername|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Whatsername closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Whatsername|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Whatsername closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Whatsername|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Whatsername closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

The song name appeared first in the Album_1700 by Peter, Paul and Mary. Disambiguation requested.

--Juanco (talk) 12:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

  • There is a spelling difference, however minor ("Whatshername" on the PPM album). If there are no other uses, hatnotes might be better (cf. WP:TWODABS). --BDD (talk) 18:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment I expected this to target Placeholder name, but the closest that article gets is "what's-his-name" in an example. Thryduulf (talk) 16:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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:: I'm okay with disambiguation below. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:40, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Disambiguate between the current topic, Peter Paul and Mary, and placeholder name. Unless you're a computer running an exact character match, you'll see that "Whatsername" and "What's-his-name" are basically the same thing. Nyttend (talk) 20:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

:: Created dab. Please review. Also added Whatsername, the character from the American Idiot musical. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 03:57, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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==1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget to Orders of magnitude (numbers)#1033 -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Implausible and unlikely to be searched and used for "Decillion" is USA. It can be written simply as 10^33 B dash (talk) 02:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Strong Keep. The nominator's lack of WP:BEFORE is telling here as this got over 1100 hits last year and got over 100 in the past 30 days so it's very clearly both plausible and likely to be searched. Just because a search term can be written in a different way does not mean that is the only way that people will use to search for it. Thryduulf (talk) 10:45, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • :I really think we need to look at more than just raw numbers here. I'd bet anything that some of those hits were someone starting to type something in the search box, seeing this enormous number, and then wondering what was up with it. Now, was that 30 last year? 1000? I don't know, but I think we need to acknowledge what a curiosity this is in that context. --BDD (talk) 17:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • ::Whether 1 or 1000 people viewed this link out of curiosity is not relevant as the redirect did it's job in helping people find content on Wikipedia. If they weren't looking for anything in particular then it was not harmful and exposed an article they wouldn't otherwise have read - this is a Good Thing. Thryduulf (talk) 20:23, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete, misleading. The target page doesn't even mention 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. And no, having a redirect bring people to some page that they weren't looking for is not a Good Thing. We're an encyclopedia, not a time sink. Huon (talk) 22:17, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • If people are looking for a specific page this does not get in the way of that. If people are just looking for something to read but not a specific article (and yes, people do do that intentionally) then this is what they are looking for. Either way the redirect is not harmful. As for the target being misleading - pull the other one. Thryduulf (talk) 00:19, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete since the article is about the names of large numbers and not the numbers themselves. -- Tavix (talk) 15:34, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • {{yo|Huon|Tavix}} Or this can retarget to Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1033 (Should be 1033 but the URL can't display)? --B dash (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Sounds good to me. Orders of magnitude (numbers)#1033 at least provides some meaningful information. Huon (talk) 19:56, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1033 per B dash. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 06:23, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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  • Retarget to Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1033 as at target. It's possible a person searching for this number may not know how to writ the shortened version. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 18:17, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Don't delete; I'm leaning toward supporting the retargeting idea, since it sounds reasonable to go somewhere that mentions this number, but keeping with the current target would be better than deleting. Nyttend (talk) 20:00, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete with no target - This is not a plausible redirect anymore than 1000000000000000000000000000000000000 is. The average reader would have to know a bit about math to be searching numbers this high, either that or a bored kid. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:35, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Those are not the only possibilities, but even if the people looking this up are knowledgeable about maths and/or bored kids that is not a reason to delete a redirect. We have information about this number in two places - names of large numbers and orders of magnitude, either of which are very significantly more useful than search results, an invitation to search and/or an invitation to start an article. Thryduulf (talk) 21:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

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