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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 2, 2020.

==Giant Enemy Crab==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Genji: Days of the Blade#Meme. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 23:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Giant Enemy Crab }} → :List of Internet phenomena#Gaming  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Giant_Enemy_Crab&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Giant_Enemy_Crab stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Giant Enemy Crab|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant Enemy Crab closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Giant Enemy Crab|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant Enemy Crab closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Giant Enemy Crab|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant Enemy Crab closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Giant enemy crab }} → :List of Internet phenomena#Gaming  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Giant_enemy_crab&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Giant_enemy_crab stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Giant enemy crab|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant enemy crab closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Giant enemy crab|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant enemy crab closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Giant enemy crab|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant enemy crab closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirects and the target unclear. Also, {{No redirect|Giant Enemy Crab}} is a {{Tl|R with history}} that was apparently WP:BLANKANDREDIRECTed in 2012. Steel1943 (talk) 21:17, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Neo FIlms==

File:Symbol move vote.svg Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 10%23Neo FIlms

==IRIN==

File:Right-pointing white arrow in blue rounded square.svg Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was:

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Irin. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 23:18, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = IRIN }} → :The New Humanitarian  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=IRIN&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=IRIN stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:IRIN|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IRIN closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:IRIN|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IRIN closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:IRIN|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#IRIN closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

IRIN is ambiguous with 4 entries at disambiguation page Irin, 2 of which are capitalised. It is possible but difficult to prove that The New Humanitarian is the primary topic for "IRIN" but retargeting to the disambiguation page may be better. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:05, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

:I support a disambiguation page, on the grounds that IRIN is a longstanding abbreviation for the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy since 1979, and was used extensively to refer to the The New Humanitarian from 1995 to 2019. Pahlevun (talk) 18:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget to DAB page Irin, tagged as {{tl|R from other capitalisation}} plus {{tl|R from ambiguous term}}. There are many precedents, e.g. {{-r|DIA}} and {{-r|DIR}} which I happened to come across earlier today. Narky Blert (talk) 18:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment It appears that the dab page Irin was just created today, changing a long standing redirect from Irin -> Watcher (angel). Is the Aramaic term the primary topic for irin? I am neutral on the IRIN to Irin dab page redirect. Natg 19 (talk) 01:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
  • {{re|Natg 19}} Yes, created by me. With 4 uses of various capitalisations of "irin" it seems to me very unlikely that Watcher is the primary topic, which is why I created a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Draft:Untitled Harley Quinn project==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. If there were any future untitled projects that could fit these descriptions, I suspect we'd quickly get consensus (if these titles weren't just BOLDly usurped). --BDD (talk) 22:08, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Draft:Untitled Batgirl film }} → :Draft:Batgirl (upcoming film)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Untitled_Batgirl_film&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-26&end=2020-08-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft%3AUntitled_Batgirl_film stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Batgirl film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Batgirl film closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Batgirl film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Batgirl film closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Batgirl film|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Batgirl film closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Draft:Untitled Borderlands film }} → :Draft:Borderlands (film)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Untitled_Borderlands_film&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-26&end=2020-08-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft%3AUntitled_Borderlands_film stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Borderlands film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Borderlands film closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Borderlands film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Borderlands film closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Borderlands film|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Borderlands film closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Draft:Untitled Kingsman third film }} → :Draft:Kingsman 3  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Untitled_Kingsman_third_film&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-26&end=2020-08-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft%3AUntitled_Kingsman_third_film stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Kingsman third film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Kingsman third film closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Kingsman third film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Kingsman third film closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Kingsman third film|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Kingsman third film closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Delete just like in the mainspace, once films/albums/other created works get a title, any redirect with "Untitled" is misleading and should be deleted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:11, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Rusted AutoParts 20:27, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep all since they are all redirects which target pages in the "Draft:" namespace, the "Draft:" namespace is set up to not be indexed by third party search engines (should not show up in their search results), the "Draft:" namespace is not intended to be used as a search mechanism for "live" pages, and these redirects could potentially prevent duplicate articles and/or drafts being created at these titles since 1) they redirect to the most applicable draft and 2) it gives editors a warning box if they try to create articles with title matches of pages in the "Draft:" namespace. Steel1943 (talk) 20:32, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete alll Redirects are costly and not what the draft namespace is for. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep all per Steel1943. Redirects within draft space are probably the very opposite of costly. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Would your argument to keep change once the draft was "promoted" to article space and the redirect is no longer within draftspace? (See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 26#Draft:Goosebumps: Slappy Halloween). UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
  • {{ec}} {{replyto|UnitedStatesian}} That's a link to this discussion, but in general terms my answer would depend on the timing of the move, whether there was any merging of drafts, whether the creator was aware of the new title and whether it was plausible the title would be useful for a draft about a different topic in the future. Thryduulf (talk) 12:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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==Tied==

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:The result of the discussion was disambiguate

. Thanks to Uanfala for drafting it! --BDD (talk) 22:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Tied }} → :Tide  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tied&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-26&end=2020-08-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Tied stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Tied|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tied closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Tied|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tied closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Tied|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Tied closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Tied may be a possible typo for tide, but is probably more likely an intentional search term for the past tense of tie. The current redirect is WP:ASTONISHing, and should be avoided. Suggest either re-targeting to Tie, or deleting. Paul_012 (talk) 19:57, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

  • Keep or retarget to Tie (draw). "Tied" is not a reasonable search term for any of the uses listed on the extensive disambiguation page except, possibly, Tie (draw) so if it is retargetted anywhere it should be there. However I disagree that the current target is more or less astonishing than any other typo or homonym, especially as we regularly redirect those but don't regularly redirect other verb forms. Thryduulf (talk) 20:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Keeping is definitely out: misspellings can't take precedence over correct forms. The other target noted by Thryduulf is definitely plausible, but there are other targets as well, and I can't see a primary topic even if I squint. Disambiguating looks viable, but it will be tricky to do with the NOTDIC and PTM issues. Articles like Tied house, Tied cottage, Tied aid should probably be included: they look like partial title matches, but in each of those three cases you can discern a specific meaning of "tied" that's not exclusive to these particular phrases: you can also talk for example of a pub, a contract, or a loan being tied. – Uanfala (talk) 13:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate. This redirect is too ambiguous. There are a lot of titles containing "Tied". Seventyfiveyears (talk) 15:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

:*{{re|Seventyfiveyears}} Simply having a lot of titles containing the word is not enough for disambiguation, there would have to multiple titles that are actually fully known as "Tied". See WP:PTM for more details. Which articles did you want to include in your proposed disambiguation? -- Tavix (talk) 15:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Tie (draw) which looks to be the primary topic to me. I agree with Uanfala that you may be able to stretch together a disambiguation if you squint (eg Tie (music): you can say that two notes are tied, but I can't imagine someone searching for that using "Tied"). I think a hatnote to Tie (disambiguation) would take care of that. -- Tavix (talk) 15:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Just to add, I don't think Tie (draw) is any more eligible as a target than other articles, like Tied aid. If anything, it's an everyday word in this case and so probably a lot less likely to be sought by readers of an encyclopedia. – Uanfala (talk) 23:36, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Tie as a disambiguation. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:09, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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  • Delete. This is ambiguous and any redirect to any target may cause confusion (especially the current target). Let Search do its job uninhibited. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:32, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to DAB page Tie as {{tl|R from ambiguous term}}. Knots are tied. Narky Blert (talk) 09:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Tie dab page, add it to the Wiktionary link on that page, and add a couple of "See also" links to "look from" and "in title" for "Tied". Too many uses - tied cottage (home linked to job), tied house (pub committed to brewery), knots, etc as well as sports. If anyone feels strongly about the typo for "tide", add that as another "see also". PamD 10:53, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • I've drafted a dab page below the redirect: if the term is to be disambiguated at all, then it definitely should be at its own title. Redirecting to Tie is out of the question because the overlap between the two terms is infinitesimal: only three, maximum four, of the 36 entries at Tie are relevant for "tied", and many of the meanings of "tied" are not relevant for "tie". I don't have very strong objections to deletion, but a separate page is probably the most helpful solution; retargeting anywhere else (except maybe Wiktionary) will be as good as useless for our readers. – Uanfala (talk) 23:30, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate as set out by {{U|Uanfala}}: thanks for your work. Perhaps add a gloss "... is the past tense of the verb to tie"? We may need to WP:IAR slightly for this set of PTMs, but it looks the solution which will be the most helpful to the most readers. I've removed a duplicate entry and added the "in title" and "look from" searches. PamD 18:21, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per multiple editors above, seems to be the best solution for this. A draft has already been created below the redirect anyway. CycloneYoris talk! 23:23, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Bangkok International Airport==

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:The result of the discussion was disambiguate

. signed, Rosguill talk 17:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Bangkok International Airport }} → :Suvarnabhumi Airport  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bangkok_International_Airport&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-26&end=2020-08-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Bangkok_International_Airport stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Bangkok International Airport|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Bangkok International Airport closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Bangkok International Airport|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Bangkok International Airport closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Bangkok International Airport|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Bangkok International Airport closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Bangkok Airport }} → :Suvarnabhumi Airport  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bangkok_Airport&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-27&end=2020-08-25&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Bangkok_Airport stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Bangkok Airport|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Bangkok Airport closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Bangkok Airport|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Bangkok Airport closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Bangkok Airport|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Bangkok Airport closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

This was a disambiguation page until 2015 when User:ZJOEY redirected the page to Suvarnabhumi Airport. While Suvarnabhumi inherited the IATA code BKK from Don Mueang International Airport in 2006, it has never been officially referred to as "Bangkok International Airport", which was Don Mueang Airport's official name up until then. (Before being officially named, Suvarnabhumi was referred to as "New Bangkok International Airport".) Both are currently international airports serving Bangkok. I suggest the disambiguation page be restored. Paul_012 (talk) 18:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

  • Restore dab per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 20:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Bangkok#Airports which summarizes nicely the situation in context and has prominent links to both airports. -- Tavix (talk) 22:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment adding {{-r|Bangkok Airport}}, which should be consistent. (Not adding all the BKK/bkk redirects.) A separate dab page has the advantage that links to it show up in WP:DPL. Or maybe it's a disadvantage, since "Bangkok International Airport" was actually a correct historical name of one of the airports in question and just a WP:PTM for the other. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 01:00, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep because Suvarnabhumi Airport is the primary topic for both terms (being the principal airport for Bangkok), and there is an adequate explanatory hatnote. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:03, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Restore dab. The handful of incoming wikilinks shows usages for both airports (and one usage that's indeterminate to me), and the older airport is a valid target despite the newer one. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:43, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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  • Restore DAB. WP:PRIMARYREDIRECTs tend to collect bad links, and JHJ's research has shown that this one indeed does. Narky Blert (talk) 09:45, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per nom. While neither of Bangkok's two operating international airports is officially named "Bangkok [International] Airport", readers will be looking for something at that title, and it's possible (though not very likely) that old articles, histories, and mirrors host ambiguous links originally intended for the old official title for Don Mueang. Disambiguation is the best way to handle these, and hopefully prevent creation of new ambiguous links. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Giant enemy crap==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 17:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Giant enemy crap }} → :List of Internet phenomena#Games  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Giant_enemy_crap&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Giant_enemy_crap stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Giant enemy crap|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant enemy crap closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Giant enemy crap|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant enemy crap closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Giant enemy crap|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Giant enemy crap closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

While there is content about Giant enemy crab on enwiki, I'm not convinced "giant enemy crap" is a plausible search term for that meme. Hog Farm Bacon 15:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Soysauce-Warrior Kikkoman==

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:The result of the discussion was deleted

by {{u|Boing! said Zebedee}} per G8. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 06:43, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Not mentioned in target article, and is old unencyclopedic content from 2004. FWIW, an article on this subject was deleted on the Japanese wikipedia in 2013 [https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%86%A4%E6%B2%B9%E6%88%A6%E5%A3%AB%E3%82%AD%E3%83%83%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3]. Hog Farm Bacon 15:06, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Man sauce==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 17:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Man sauce }} → :Semen  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Man_sauce&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Man_sauce stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Man sauce|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Man sauce closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Man sauce|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Man sauce closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Man sauce|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Man sauce closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Looks like an obscure or novel synonym of the target, which is one of the WP:RFD#DELETE reasons for deletion. A Google search, at least on my device, is mostly bringing up various BBQ and hot sauces claiming to be "for real men", as well as a bizarre internet challenge involving soy sauce and testicles. Hog Farm Bacon 15:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete, we are not Urban Dictionary. Also, it's kinda ambiguous given the nom's info about the Google search. Regards, SONIC678 00:16, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Descriptive theory==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. signed, Rosguill talk 17:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Descriptive theory }} → :Explanation  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Descriptive_theory&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-27&end=2020-08-25&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Descriptive_theory stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Descriptive theory|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Descriptive theory closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Descriptive theory|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Descriptive theory closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Descriptive theory|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Descriptive theory closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 04:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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==Orland Albert Wolfram==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Donald Justin Wolfram. signed, Rosguill talk 17:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Orland Albert Wolfram }} → :Pillar of Fire International  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orland_Albert_Wolfram&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-26&end=2020-08-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Orland_Albert_Wolfram stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Orland Albert Wolfram|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Orland Albert Wolfram closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Orland Albert Wolfram|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Orland Albert Wolfram closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Orland Albert Wolfram|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Orland Albert Wolfram closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = Orland A. Wolfram }} → :Pillar of Fire International  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Orland_A._Wolfram&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-07-26&end=2020-08-24&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Orland_A._Wolfram stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Orland A. Wolfram|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Orland A. Wolfram closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Orland A. Wolfram|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Orland A. Wolfram closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Orland A. Wolfram|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Orland A. Wolfram closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned in target article. Orland A. Wolfram was delinked in Donald Justin Wolfram with edit summary "removed invalid link", and there is no clear reason why these redirects should exist. PamD 22:46, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

{{resize|91%|Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Seventyfiveyears (talk) 14:49, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Wikipedia:BADWORDS==

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to Wikipedia:Offensive material. signed, Rosguill talk 17:50, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Wikipedia:BADWORDS }} → :Wikipedia:No legal threats  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:BADWORDS&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Wikipedia%3ABADWORDS stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:BADWORDS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:BADWORDS closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:BADWORDS|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:BADWORDS closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:BADWORDS|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Wikipedia:BADWORDS closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Doesn't seem like a completely logical redirect. It's old (2008), but only has one link, and it's an old user talk archive that's basically an announcement this redirect has been created. WP:CUSS links to Wikipedia:Offensive material, WP:SWEARWORDS links to Wikipedia:Civility, and WP:SWEARING links to Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_censored. I guess this redirect could point to any of those, but the no legal threats target seems to have, by far, the weakest connection to "bad words", which usually means profanity. Hog Farm Bacon 14:04, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment Given the date I suspect I created it in response to a comment on WP:ANI. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 05:15, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. I would be fine with the proposed retarget but that's still pretty ambiguous, and this is an old one-off shortcut that nobody has used in 12 years. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:37, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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==AmaNdebele==

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==Orbital maneuvering system==

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to Orbital maneuver. signed, Rosguill talk 17:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Since articles like spaceflight used this wording to refer to any orbital maneuvering systems in general, this redirect should be retargeted to orbital maneuver and hatnote the target. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 13:51, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==User:Jimbo==

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. I see strong arguments on both sides, and little reason to think a relisting would change things. I suspect Jimbo Wales himself expressing an opinion would tip the scales, but he hasn't been active in a bit. --BDD (talk) 16:05, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = User:Jimbo }} → :User:Jimbo Wales  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jimbo&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=User%3AJimbo stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:User:Jimbo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#User:Jimbo closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:User:Jimbo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#User:Jimbo closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:User:Jimbo|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#User:Jimbo closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 
  • {{no redirect|1 = User talk:Jimbo }} → :User talk:Jimbo Wales  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=User_talk%3AJimbo stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:User talk:Jimbo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#User talk:Jimbo closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:User talk:Jimbo|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#User talk:Jimbo closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:User talk:Jimbo|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#User talk:Jimbo closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

I do not understand why this page redirects to that user page. Also, I feel like if anyone made an account using this username, they would not expect this redirect. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 12:27, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment: Also check {{no redirect|1 = User talk:Jimbo}} → :User talk:Jimbo Wales - doing this before a separate RfD is filed. FMecha (to talk|to see log) 13:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment: There is even a user going by this name on trwiki. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:54, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep. As the creator I naturally think the redirect has value to prevent disruption and confusion. Impersonation should be blocked. User:Jimbo Wales is a significant enough editor that his nickname should be reserved for him alone across all Wikimedia/Wikipedia platforms. (BTW, the talk page was already a redirect at the time I made this one.) -- Valjean (talk) 15:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per Wikipedia:Unified login, since there's a user who's registered this name on trwiki. If they were ever to edit here, User:Jimbo would be there userpage on enwiki. I don't see why this redirect should stand in the way of the single-user login. Heck, this could even be eligible for WP:U2, right? Hog Farm Bacon 15:59, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Not eligible as long as there is a dispute and discussion about it. Don't complicate things. Let this run its course first. -- Valjean (talk) 16:51, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment. This redirect is widely used. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Jimbo&limit=500 Currently 494 uses are registered.] -- Valjean (talk) 16:59, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • So what happens if the trwiki editor with this username ever edits enwiki and wants a userpage? Hog Farm Bacon 17:17, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • {{Ping|Hog Farm}} I'd assume that one of two things would happen, either 1) the user would be assigned the username User:Jimbo~enwiki (see User:Power~enwiki for reference), or 2) no other user would be able to create this name since WP:SUL would prevent them from doing so. (I don't know if the latter is the case, but I'd assume there have been updates to the WP:SUL process such as this since SUL was enacted a few years ago.) Steel1943 (talk) 18:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • :...Wait, User:Jimbo~enwiki exists and belongs to a registered account? Did a user formerly at User:Jimbo get moved to User:Jimbo~enwiki when the WP:SUL process went live? Yep, sure enough, that is what happened. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jimbo~enwiki&oldid=660123025 this revision]. Steel1943 (talk) 18:41, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Mark it doppelgänger account per above comments. The Turk user will notice that their enwiki uses pages are created to avoid impersonality with Mr. Jimbo Wales. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 17:44, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

:*Soumya-8974, "User:Jimbo Wales" is not the only "User:Jimbo" in enwiki. User:Jimbo is not even similar to "Jimbo Wales". Other users also have the named "Jimbo" (i.e. User:Jimbo Herndan, User:Jimbo online, etc). Please read this. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 18:06, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Strong Delete per 1234qwer1234qwer4's findings. Since the user name is used for a global account unrelated to the target, this redirect should be deleted per the purpose of WP:SUL. Steel1943 (talk) 18:10, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Updated to "strong" after my findings in my response to Hog Farm. Looks like this user name is reserved specifically for the editor who has edited on "trwiki" since the WP:SUL for "Jimbo" was assigned to them. I'd even go to the extent to say this redirect should be deleted per WP:G6 since its existence has the potential to cause technical issues that conflict with WP:SUL. Steel1943 (talk) 18:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Here's the SUL report. The user itself haven't edited since 2011, but the SUL results indicate an attachment to German Wikipedia in 2020. FMecha (to talk|to see log) 19:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
  • You know, at this point, I'm just going to ask the editor themselves for input in this since they are still active and probably know more about this first hand than me: Power~enwiki, is there anything you may know regarding your own experiences with the enacting of WP:SUL which may help with this discussion? Steel1943 (talk) 18:52, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • I don't see how SUL is relevant here. All the renames were done in 2015 (including that of a blocked account at enwiki from Jimbo to Jimbo~enwiki) and nobody's username is going to change now. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep as the overwhelming primary topic, given that {{noping|Jimbo~enwiki}} is blocked and the Turkish Jimbo hasn't edited since 2011. {{noping|Jimbo Wales}} is more likely than any other user to be searched by those who know who he is but may not know the username. -- Tavix (talk) 19:50, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
  • {{Ping|Tavix}} I understand this stance, but I'd like to present an alternative. So, for the page 沙盒, deleted via an RfD, I created Template:Editnotices/Page/沙盒 which appears on the page when anyone attempts to create it. Would having such a edit notice at the top of the page, possibly stating something like "User:Jimbo does not exist. You may have meant User:Jimbo Wales, the account for Wikipedia's founder" suffice? That way, readers will still be directed to where they may possibly intend to go, while at the same time leaving this title free since it belongs to an account authenticated via SUL that has nothing to do with Jimbo Wales? (Even though yes, the odds of them using their account are rather low since they have both never edited on the English Wikipedia and haven't edited at all for about 9 years?) Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • That sounds like an excellent solution. The point is that people need to be directed to their likely target. -- Valjean (talk) 20:54, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep, per discussion about the years-last-edited it's a clear 'keep'. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:54, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete, unless Jimbo Wales himself owns this account it should not redirect to his userpage 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 22:53, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Hell In a cell(2020)==

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--BDD (talk) 15:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Hell In a cell(2020) }} → :Hell in a Cell (2020)  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hell_In_a_cell(2020)&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Hell_In_a_cell%282020%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Hell In a cell(2020)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hell In a cell(2020) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Hell In a cell(2020)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hell In a cell(2020) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Hell In a cell(2020)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Hell In a cell(2020) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Double redirect (from a page move) for a PPV that isn't yet happening (target currently redirects to WWE Hell in a Cell). FMecha (to talk|to see log) 06:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete because of the miscapitalisation and missing space rather than it being a double redirect. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:59, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per Xezbeth. Two errors is too many. Narky Blert (talk) 11:58, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete: highly implausible errors. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:55, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete because of the incorrect spacing between the punctuation, also we don't need double redirects like this. Regards, SONIC678 15:39, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete Implausible redirect. --◊PRAHLADbalaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 23:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:RDAB. Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Body shame==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Body shaming. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 06:40, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Body shame }} → :Modesty#Body modesty  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Body_shame&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Body_shame stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Body shame|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Body shame closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Body shame|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Body shame closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Body shame|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Body shame closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Redirect confusing and contrary to WP:PLA: The section linked does not exist. Hildeoc (talk) 02:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Return of the Killer Windshield==

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:The result of the discussion was delete.

--BDD (talk) 15:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Return of the Killer Windshield }} → :The Far Side  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Return_of_the_Killer_Windshield&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Return_of_the_Killer_Windshield stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Return of the Killer Windshield|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Return of the Killer Windshield closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Return of the Killer Windshield|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Return of the Killer Windshield closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Return of the Killer Windshield|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Return of the Killer Windshield closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Not mentioned anywhere on enwiki, it's a rather funny one-panel gag in the comic strip, but definitely out of scope to mention anywhere. Hog Farm Bacon 02:43, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Draft:SWMPs==

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:The result of the discussion was delete.

--BDD (talk) 15:56, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Draft:SWMPs }} → :Retention basin  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:SWMPs&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft%3ASWMPs stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:SWMPs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:SWMPs closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:SWMPs|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:SWMPs closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Draft:SWMPs|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:SWMPs closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Improper use of the draft: namespace, it was created as a redirect from the draft space to the article space. Hog Farm Bacon 02:23, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nominator. Also, this acronym is highly ambiguous: the intended meaning here is "storm water management pond", but there's also "surface water management plan", "site waste management plan", Smith and Wesson M&P (the former target of {{-r|SWMP}}), and a bunch of other stuff not discussed in Wikipedia. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 05:14, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Elder Scrolls redirects==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

the first six, retarget Snow Elves to Elves in fiction. --BDD (talk) 15:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Battle of Ionith }} → :The Elder Scrolls  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Ionith&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Battle_of_Ionith stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Battle of Ionith|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Battle of Ionith closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Battle of Ionith|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Battle of Ionith closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Battle of Ionith|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Battle of Ionith closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Gaiden Shinji }} → :The Elder Scrolls  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gaiden_Shinji&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Gaiden_Shinji stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Gaiden Shinji|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gaiden Shinji closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Gaiden Shinji|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gaiden Shinji closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Gaiden Shinji|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Gaiden Shinji closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary }} → :The Elder Scrolls  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dark_Brotherhood_Sanctuary&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dark_Brotherhood_Sanctuary stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Reman Cyrodiil }} → :The Elder Scrolls  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reman_Cyrodiil&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Reman_Cyrodiil stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Reman Cyrodiil|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Reman Cyrodiil closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Reman Cyrodiil|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Reman Cyrodiil closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Reman Cyrodiil|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Reman Cyrodiil closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Sigil Stone }} → :The Elder Scrolls  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sigil_Stone&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Sigil_Stone stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Sigil Stone|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sigil Stone closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Sigil Stone|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sigil Stone closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Sigil Stone|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Sigil Stone closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Thras }} → :The Elder Scrolls  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thras&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Thras stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Thras|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thras closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Thras|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thras closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Thras|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Thras closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = Snow Elves }} → :The Elder Scrolls  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Snow_Elves&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Snow_Elves stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Snow Elves|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Snow Elves closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Snow Elves|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Snow Elves closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Snow Elves|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Snow Elves closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

The target article has a very large number of incoming redirects for sundry in-game entities, but these ones here are probably among the most obscure. There's no content about them anywhere on Wikipedia, and I can't imagine there ever being added any. And because of the presence of either generic or short words in some of these names, the redirect are likely to interfere with searches for other topics. There's nothing useful in the histories of those redirects: Battle of Ionith was created in 2006 as a short article about the event, but was then promptly redirected; similar was the beginning of Sigil Stone in 2007. The rest have remained redirects since their creation: Gaiden Shinji in 2007, Thras in 2013, Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary, Snow Elves and Reman Cyrodiil in 2014. – Uanfala (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

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==Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant)==

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--BDD (talk) 15:50, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant) }} → :Longevity claims  (talk · links · [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jackson_Pollock_(longevity_claimant)&action=history history] · [https://iw.toolforge.org/pageviews?start=2020-08-03&end=2020-09-01&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Jackson_Pollock_%28longevity_claimant%29 stats])     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

As far as I can see, the only relevant name listed in the target is Jackson Pollard, not Pollock. Hildeoc (talk) 00:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. This looks like a mistake. We already have {{-r|Jackson Pollard}} as a redirect to Longevity claims, where he has a sourced mention. Narky Blert (talk) 12:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep The name "Jackson Pollock" is mentioned in this newspaper: [https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19900120&id=fYIwAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xIsDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3870,3247470] —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 17:23, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not mentioned in the target article, leaving readers not finding the information they may be looking for. Steel1943 (talk) 18:04, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

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