. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 23:44, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old can be used instead, and the parser function {{#time:}} breaks the redirect.
Qwerfjkltalk 18:47, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. As a soft redirect, it's still a better shortcut than clicking through to WP:AFDO. If there is some technical reason why that is harmful, then altering the redirect is still better than deletion. czar 19:11, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 19:53, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete as a broken shortcut redirect that can't actually function as a redirect due to technical limitations in the mediawiki software, and which only gets updated when the page is edited or purged (at the moment it's pointing to the 14th instead of the 18th). If you need an automatically updating link to discussions from 8 days ago use -8days}} to make a direct link instead. 0 incoming links that aren't related to this discussion, so it never seems to have been used anywhere and so deletion shouldn't break anything. On a procedural note this discussion should probably have been at WP:RFD instead of here. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 16:19, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
::Definitely should have been listed at RfD—did not notice that when I relisted this because I found this case so distractingly interesting. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 03:13, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Retarget to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old, although I wouldn't really object to just deleting it. This doesn't work as explained above, and the AFDOLD page adequately fulfills its intended function. Although this shortcut doesn't seem to be getting much use, retargeting it to the AFDOLD page would be nominally preferable as an alternative to deletion, I suppose. (A sidenote: couldn't this have just been left alone? Surely it wasn't doing any harm.) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:18, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't see why this is useful, but if Czar says he finds it useful it's not helpful for us to second-guess that. As I said above, this is essentially harmless, so any possible benefit is sufficient for me to !vote keep. This discussion was certainly not worth the not-insubstantial amount of time it consumed. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:09, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 10:33, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- {{ping|Qwerfjkl|czar|Extraordinary Writ}} I have relisted {{no redirect|Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:AFD8|this}} once more, but in the proper venue as to potentially solicit more input at a forum that is more appropriate for such matters. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 10:41, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- A reminder that incoming links is not the only indication of "use". I use this shortcut several times a week without linking it from anywhere. czar 10:43, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- Prior to being listed at MFD it had recieved 7 page views in the last 12 months. [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2020-10&end=2021-10&pages=Wikipedia:AFD8] 192.76.8.80 (talk) 14:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- I use it in conjunction with [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2020-10&end=2021-10&pages=Wikipedia:AFD7 WP:AFD7] but my point still stands. That there is a technical limitation on how Mediawiki soft redirects rather than automatically redirects does not impair its function as a shortcut straight to the two AfD lists in highest need of admin closure. czar 17:35, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. If Czar is using it and finds it useful, that in itself is a good reason to keep it and there is absolutely no positive reason for deleting it. It might not see much use, but there is no benefit in making any editor's work harder. SpinningSpark 19:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: This is not a standard RfD entry. This was at WP:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:AFD8 and the discussions are from there until it was moved to RfD on 16:05, December 4, 2021. This can be closed on or after December 11.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 18:45, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Spinningspark. - Eureka Lott 18:46, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.