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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on April 6, 2022.

==Rapido Trains==

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==Prefixes and suffixes in Hebrew==

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==Armenian prisoners==

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== More redirects with no space before disambiguator ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. Merry springmas! ✗plicit 12:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Delete all per WP:RDAB due to the lack of space between the title and the disambiguator. Each of these redirects' properly-spaced variants exist and target the same target as their respective nominated redirect. Also, none of these redirects have incoming links from the article space. (See recent related discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 March 24#Redirects with no space before disambiguator that target spaced title.) Steel1943 (talk) 18:58, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete' as malformed and redundant; the correct version Sedan (car) already exists. — The Anome (talk) 19:22, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  • :(Note: This comment is specific to {{No redirect|Sedan(car)}} unless stated otherwise.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

:{{re|Steel1943}} do we need a discussion for fixing double redirects? VQuakr (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

::(Note: This comment is specific to {{No redirect|October(poem)}} unless stated otherwise.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

:*{{Ping|VQuakr}} What are you referring to? I'm unclear what is meant by this inquiry in regards to how it relates to this discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 19:49, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

:::{{re|Steel1943}} Never mind, I received an automated notification while you were still setting up the nomination and I got confused. I see what you're doing now. Yes, delete all. VQuakr (talk) 18:04, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete all per WP:UNNATURAL (an essay, but still wise words). Parenthetical disambiguation is an internal Wikipedia device, and mistakenly created redirects which vary from our formatting conventions serve no purpose. Certes (talk) 20:18, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete All - I don't see a particularly good reason to keep these. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 23:30, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all the trash in this WP:UNNATURAL heap. I understand that some may search like this, but in most cases, the correctly spaced title will appear in the search bar. Regards, SONIC678 05:51, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all As housekeeping. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:28, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all per nom. Cavalryman (talk) 10:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC).
  • Delete(All) as malformed modifier --Lenticel (talk) 03:47, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:RDAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:59, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

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==Virtual threads==

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==Kia/Gia==

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== Template:Pronouns ==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Template:Pronoun. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 17:50, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Proposing retarget to {{tl|Pronoun}}. This redirect is unused, and it's target is used on a single page. It appears that some editors (see Template talk:Personal pronouns) come up to this redirect as a mistake while trying to look for the significantly used {{tl|Pronoun}} instead. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 15:08, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Retarget per nom. This is what I'd expect too, and the plural form is often used in this context ("What are your pronouns?" "My pronouns are..."). --BDD (talk) 17:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Support. This is standard, as the category :Category:Redirects from plurals attests. RockMagnetist(talk) 01:20, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Genetics and skin disease ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 12:40, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Potential WP:XY issue: Genetics and Skin disease represent two distinct topics, and the target article does not seem to represent a combination of the two topics. Steel1943 (talk) 06:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete I can't find significant information on genetics at Skin condition or skin/dermatology at Medical genetics. The subtopics identified by Jay strengthen the WP:REDLINK argument for me. --BDD (talk) 14:58, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete - I agree. Something like 'Role of genetics in skin disease' ought to exist, I think. I'd start it myself if I had any particular knowledge that would help in the matter, but unfortunately I only know as much as the layman about genetics. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 06:41, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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==List of royal visits by Queen Elizabeth II==

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== League per Salvini Premier ==

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:The result of the discussion was soft delete

. ✗plicit 12:39, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

This redirect was coming from an original typo or bad translation (which was mixing English "League" and Italian "per"). I propose its deletion. It was formerly pointing to Lega per Salvini Premier (all in Italian). Another valid redirect is League for Salvini Premier (all in English). But this mixed version is highly unlikely to be searched and used by readers. Yakme (talk) 11:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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==Ukrainian Revolution of 2013==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. Editors remain split between Keep and Delete, with a few noting that their decision was a close call. signed, Rosguill talk 19:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

There wasn't any 'Ukrainian revolution of 2013', so this seems to be an implausible misnomer. The revolution happened in 2014, and we have an article on it, Revolution of Dignity. The question is, do we delete this redirect, redirect it to Revolution of Dignity (as a potential typo), or leave it tied to the article on the Euromaidan movement, which does include 2013 events (though they were not yet a revolution at that stage)? RGloucester — ☎ 04:04, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep Both articles’ intros support the idea that the protests led to the revolution, and one could conceive of the two as a four-month “revolution.” As a reader following the link is expecting an article about something that started in 2013, I would prefer keeping the redirect as is, but I’m also fine with changing it to the other. —Michael Z. 17:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
  • I lean toward deletion per WP:XY: Euromaidan was not (generally described by reliable sources as) a revolution, and the Revolution of Dignity did not take place in 2013, so it's not obvious which of the two directions to correct in. However, it's at least a closer to match to the latter (to which {{-r|Ukrainian Revolution of 2014}} redirects, and which does characterize a build-up starting in 2013), so my second choice would be a retarget there. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 15:02, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete. I find it a close call between Keep and Delete, but I think re-targeting to Revolution of Dignity would be a mistake. That re-targeting tends to imply that 2013 had nothing to do with it, which is misleading. Without this redirect, the possible-match list that drops down when typing in the search box would show "Ukrainian Revolution of 2013-14", which acknowledges the 2013 roots of the 2014 revolution. Google for the redirect-title phrase shows both articles together at the top, with Revolution of Dignity first. Overall, delete seems best to me. --R. S. Shaw (talk) 20:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete, the revolution is not known by that name. Readers looking for the revolution in the context of 2013 will still be offered with Ukrainian Revolution of 2013-14 per Shaw. Jay (talk) 16:10, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep, I think this is a plausible misnomer given this is a series of events that began in 2013 and ended with a 2014 revolution. Anyone who may have thought the revolution started in 2013 will be granted easy access to the article that explains what happened when. -- Tavix (talk) 23:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

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  • Keep per Tavix, though I've gone ahead and tagged it with {{t|R from incorrect name}}. My gut says that even today, Euromaidan is a more familiar term for the average enwiki reader than Revolution of Dignity, though the articles are so well interlinked, I don't feel strongly that this must point to one or the other. --BDD (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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==Nation of Israel==

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==Nation of Taiwan==

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==Nation of China==

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==Online class==

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==Slow Blind Driveway==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 09:30, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

{{Oldrfdlist|Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_November_19#Slow_Blind_Driveway|Keep}}

No mention of this name at the target, nor could searching yield any proof that Gorka ever used this name. Appears to be linked to a long term hoax at WP:LOHOW. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:18, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

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==National Hydrographic Office==

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==Latin Portuguese==

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== Mahachanok ==

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:The result of the discussion was disambiguate

. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 19:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

This redirect currently targets Mahanipata Jataka#Mahajanaka, an article that does not contain a section called "Mahajanaka" and does not mention "Mahachanok", although it contains a section called "2. Prince Mahajanaka (the lost prince) - Act of vigour". Perhaps "Mahachanok" is an alternative name for that lost prince. There is no hatnote about the term in that article, but there is an article at {{-r|Mahachanok (mango)}} about a highly notable mango cultivar. The term is also mentioned with a non-mango meaning in the articles {{-r|Imam Pasand}} and {{-r|Wat Pathum Khongkha}}, and there is a variant of the term as "Maha Chanok" that is a partial string match to red links for {{-r|Pathum Borom Maha Chanok}} in several articles such as Vajirananavarorasa. Should "Mahachanok" become a dab page? Should a mention be added in Mahanipata Jataka#Mahajanaka? Should {{-r|Mahachanok (mango)}} be moved to "{{-r|Mahachanok}}" (or "{{-r|Maha Chanok}}")? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment: Mahachanok is simply the romanised Thai pronunciation of the name Mahajanaka, which seems to be the mango's namesake. (It was named by King Bhumibol Adulyadej, who also wrote a version of the Mahajanaka story where a mango tree plays a prominent allegorical role near the end.) Since PohranicniStraze created the mango article at the disambiguated title, I assumed that the jataka tale was understood to be the primary topic, and redirected the plain name there accordingly. (The Mahanipata Jataka article could do with some major reworking, and the section titles should be shortened. But anyway, I've added the anchor that I apparently forgot when making the redirect. I do think Mahajanaka could and should eventually be a standalone article.) Whether the mango has actually become the primary topic in English usage, I'm not sure. Google News results are indeed mainly about the mango, though Google Books shows results mostly about the jataka. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:18, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
  • I'm a bit on the fence between a disambiguation of the term and a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to the mango article with a hatnote. This is a WP:TWODABS situation, and I suspect most Wikipedia readers are looking for the mango, especially when considering that there isn't much information available on Wikipedia about the jataka, and what is provided is not very extensive. I think I lean slightly toward the mango as the primary meaning for Wikipedia readers, but I would be happy to defer to using disambiguation if your opinion differs. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

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::*I think I'd prefer disambiguation, considering the mentioned discrepancy in book vs news sources. I've drafted a dab page. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

:::*No objection to disambiguation. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Avatar: The Last Airbender – Agni Kai ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. -- Tavix (talk) 01:38, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Redirect title is not used in target article. Tube·of·Light 13:38, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete - 'Agni Kai' refers to, in the franchise's broader story context, a fire-bending duel for the sake of one's own honor, and it isn't something that would be detailed in the article cited here. Deletion looks like the best option to me. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:06, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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==1–2 finish==

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==Bettettnad==

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== Insider Community Board ==

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:The result of the discussion was soft delete

. ✗plicit 12:36, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the article's subject unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 05:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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== Estru ==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 12:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Apparently a misspelling of Estrus leaving off the final s, no more plausible than any other misspelling, so this redirect is WP:COSTLY and merits deletion. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:44, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete - I think that we can just be rid of this. Doesn't appear helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:06, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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== Ostrus ==

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:The result of the discussion was soft delete

. ✗plicit 12:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

This is a misspelling for Oestrus, but is also a surname (though there are currently no articles for anyone with the surname, there is a mention at Buddy Holly (album)). This redirect doesn't seem to be doing anyone any good, delete to avoid potential confusion/astonishment. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:37, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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