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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 2, 2022.

==Do Men gossip more than Women==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. Liz Read! Talk! 23:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Re-direct is nonsense and possibly sexist. Maurice Oly (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Very weak redirect to § In psychology, or delete per nom and because that is a very unlikely search term, and not answered at target. QuickQuokka [⁠talk • contribs] 22:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete. It's a question, not a topic.Wiki-psyc (talk) 03:18, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom Happy Editing--IAmChaos 10:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete. The title is not nonsense (it's very clear what someone using it is looking for) and whether it is sexist or not is irrelevant (per WP:RNEUTRAL), but someone looking for information on this topic will not find anything relevant at the target or anywhere else on Wikipedia that I've found. The title of a couple of references used in articles that are extremely tangentially related to this term suggest that there is probably scope for a section discussing gender differences in gossiping behaviour and/or stereotypes and this title would not be an inappropriate redirect to that, but as it stands there is no suitable target that exists. Thryduulf (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete, per Thryduulf. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 22:01, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and above. The redirect speaks for itself. XtraJovial (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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==One Minute Closer to Death==

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==Mossy Land==

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==Super swamper==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. Liz Read! Talk! 23:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Unclear what this redirect is meant to refer. Steel1943 (talk) 19:49, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete a quick google seems to find a bunch of tires? That isn't notable, and seemingly nothing at target. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 10:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. My first thought was that this was the name of a water pistol, but on investigation I think I'm misremembering the Super Soaker. Thryduulf (talk) 18:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete with no remorse. Review of the user's edit history on the day they created the article indicates the term likely relates to Batman. The Batmobile from Christopher Nolan's Batman films—aka “The Tumbler” uses super-swamper tires.Paleorthid (talk) 19:56, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 22:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Schwingmoor & Swingmoor==

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:The result of the discussion was withdrawn/resolved

per Richard New Forest's addition to the target article to explain/mention the redirects. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 20:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

The redirects are not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirects and the target unclear. (Due to their similar spelling, I am assuming that whatever subject these redirects refer is the same.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

:Yes, the quaking bog para ought to mention these terms, which mean the same thing. I've added them in. Thanks. Richard New Forest (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Guido Fawkes (blogger)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Paul Staines. (non-admin closure) eviolite (talk) 16:30, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Technically, the blogger is Paul Staines, who uses the penname "Guido Fawkes" both for his blog (Guido Fawkes) and himself. Not sure how best to deal with this; probably best just to delete this as a redirect. AFreshStart (talk) 12:06, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Paul Staines. If someone is using this search term they are most likely wanting to read about the person behind the blog, not about the blog itself. A hatnote to the blog can be added if desired. Thryduulf (talk) 23:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep or retarget per {{u|Thryduulf}} QuickQuokka [⁠talk • contribs] 19:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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  • Retarget I’m confident that someone typing Guido Fawkes (blogger) is looking for the person not the website where they post to.--65.93.195.118 (talk) 23:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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==שרעק==

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:The result of the discussion was Keep שרעק, Delete the remainder.

. Liz Read! Talk! 23:50, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = שרעק }} → :Shrek  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:שרעק|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#שרעק closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:שרעק|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#שרעק closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:שרעק|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#שרעק closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = שחמט }} → :Chess  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:שחמט|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#שחמט closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:שחמט|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#שחמט closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:שחמט|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#שחמט closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]
  • {{no redirect|1 = אדמת }} → :Rubella  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:אדמת|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#אדמת closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:אדמת|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#אדמת closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:אדמת|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#אדמת closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ]

Delete because Hebrew versions have no relevance to targets, per WP:RLOTE. QuickQuokka [⁠talk • contribs] 14:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Weak keep שרעק in some capacity since "Shrek" is derived from the Hebrew word-I'm not 100% sure about this action since that franchise (and the book that spawned it) is American. Definitely delete the rest per WP:RFOREIGN, since these other topics aren't particularly connected to Hebrew. Regards, SONIC678 15:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • :{{re|Sonic678}} Wait, Shrek is derived from Hebrew??? Also, the article for Thessaloniki had a redirect @ :סלוניקה, but I'm not sure if I should add it to RfD, because it has some connection. QuickQuokka [⁠talk • contribs] 16:36, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • :{{re|Sonic678}} שרעק is Yiddish for fright, derived from the German Schreck. Shrek the film franchise is transliterated to שרק in Hebrew-language versions of the film and advertising of the film in Israel. There might be an argument to retarget שרעק to Schreck (disambiguation) but I'm not sure, Yiddish and German are very similar but distinct languages. Bonoahx (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • ::{{re|QuickQuokka|Bonoahx}} Good points. I'm also not sure what target this would best suit this redirect, so hopefully we can find one. Regards, SONIC678 19:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all per WP:RLOTE, no affinity to the Hebrew language. Bonoahx (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete all per above. There is no particular affinity with the Hebrew or Yiddish language, and these are unlikely search terms here. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget שרעק to Shrek! due to Shrek!'s title coming directly from the Yiddish word שרעק. delete the rest especially צֹועַן Ṣōʕan which isn't even entirely in Hebrew but a garbled mix of Hebrew and IPA? TartarTorte 01:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Functional dissonance==

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==Canoeing at the 2017 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival==

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==Equimolar==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Glossary of chemistry terms#equimolar. Jay (talk) 14:40, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

This is not mentioned at target; is a Wiktionary redirect to wikt:equimolar a better alternative? 1234 kb of .rar files (is this dangerous?) 13:32, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Lawn bowls at the Summer Paralympics==

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:The result of the discussion was Procedural keep

. Not a redirect anymore; hence this discussion is moot (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

{{s|Delete. Missleading in templates such as Template:ParalympicSports. Should be deleted to provoke page creation. CLalgo (talk) 13:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)}} — Edit: Withdrawn, Thanks to fast page creation by SFB. CLalgo (talk) 08:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete No content about this at the target, and misleading as well per nom. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:16, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Deleting valid redirects to provoke others to undertake some editing work doesn't feel like a particularly helpful mode, but I suppose it has worked. Consider me provoked {{(:}} SFB 22:29, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • : {{re|Sillyfolkboy|label1=SFB}} Wow. That is the fastest I've ever seen that happen. Proposal withdrawn. CLalgo (talk) 08:11, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Nasty Party==

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==Follow the white rabbit==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. With no prejudice to a disambiguation page being created. Jay (talk) 14:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

The phrase "follow the white rabbit" is used a lot in conspiracy-theory discourse (e.g. QAnon/Pizzagate), and it is not clear this would be the primary topic for someone searching for the uncapitalised version of this phrase. To avoid confusion, IMO, this should either be made into a disambig page, or deleted. AFreshStart (talk) 21:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

  • A disambiguation page with what? Thryduulf (talk) 00:08, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: I feel the redirect should be DABIfied with :White Rabbit and the Follow the White Rabbit episode. The capitalised current target should link to the DAB. Veverve (talk) 21:10, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep and add a hatnote something like {{tlx|For|the fictional character followed by Alice|White Rabbit}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:55, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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==Amstelodami==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 12:21, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Delete. Correct Latin name for Amsterdam is Amstelodamum. Amstelodami is an adjective. Of course, Amstelodami is the Genitive and Locative of Amstelodamum. Thesmp (talk) 17:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

:I am not sure how you arrive at this conclusion; this seems to be just the genitive of the name. No opinion if it should be kept, though. ~~~~
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  • Delete We should always delete redirects that aren't in nominative case (for inflectional languages) or aren't the stem (for agglutinative languages), but explaining why is a bit tricky since English is neither. Translating Amstelodami as Amsterdam is flat-out wrong, because it's the genitive and locative form. The correct translation for genitive is Amsterdam's, and for locative is in Amsterdam. If someone created the redirects Amsterdam's and in Amsterdam and redirected it to Amsterdam, there is little doubt in my mind that both redirects would be deleted. The Latin equivalents should be deleted too. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 07:40, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
  • :There is a point that people unfamiliar with the language are not unlikely to enter an inflected form they saw somewhere, and as such redirects like this would serve a similar purpose as the usual redirects from other languages. Leaning delete though. 1234 kb of .rar files (is this dangerous?) 23:38, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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:Delete per Oiyarbepsy Happy Editing--IAmChaos 10:59, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Set out==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. ✗plicit 12:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

WP:SSRT: "Please keep in mind that only topics with a less-than-encyclopedic scope that are commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects. We don't need a soft redirect for every possible word or phrase to be included in Wikipedia." Fram (talk) 08:54, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment: I think this link is useful, because we can think that the owner of the dictionary will link to here, and then if you don't lead these people to wikt, people who come to here will feel puzzled. ⸺Q28 is preparing for the senior high school entrance examination 04:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Recently created redirect that can be safely deleted. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:40, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete - Don't need this in Wikipedia, and the argument for keeping, by the creator of the redirect, is nearly incomprehensible. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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==HoWard Taft==

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==HoWard TaFt==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. Jay (talk) 04:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

While I'm usually supportive of redirects with non-standard capitalization, this one takes it a little too far into implausability, as there's nothing logical or systematic about this set of capitalization errors at all. Hog Farm Talk 04:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

:Delete Agreed there is no reason to beleieve someone would think his name is spelled HoWard. Remove this redirect.Nerguy (talk) 13:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. This redirect Was created Well aFter the CamelCase era, and it just seems to be collecting dust in the search bar other than the sparse uses. Regards, SONIC678 16:39, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 22:14, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, but if kept, this would beg for the creation of an {{t|R from SpongeBob capitalisation}}. TartarTorte 02:01, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
  • On Wikipedia it's called StAr TrEk InTo DaRkNeSs capitalization. -- Tavix (talk) 23:37, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Nguyen Ngọc Tho==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. Not much of an agreement after two relists, and I'm not sure if a third relist would be particularly fruitful. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I know redirects are CHEAP however; this redirect is incredibly improbably as it is from a title without diacritics but includes ọ, which is a letter with a diacritic making it a redirect from partial diacritics to a page with full diacritics. The diacriticless :Nguyen Ngoc Tho is a redirect that works perfectly well. I recommend delete. TartarTorte 20:33, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

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  • Keep, [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=all-time&pages=Nguyen_Ng%E1%BB%8Dc_Tho gets non-negligible pageviews]. And that's enough. — J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 00:57, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
  • :It seems like a majority of the [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2021-02-23&end=2022-02-23&pages=Nguyen_Ng%E1%BB%8Dc_Tho page views over the past 365 days] (12-of-16) have been since the RfD nom. I think some of the earlier use was that {{-r|Nguyen Ngoc Tho}} was not created until 2014 whereas this has existed since 2007 so the data dating back to 2014 could start to lean towards {{-r|Nguyen Ngọc Tho}} for that time period. TartarTorte — Preceding undated comment added 14:13, 24 February 2022‎
  • :This is why the stats link at the top of all nominations is configured to show the period ending the day before nomination. However, the page view tool is currently broken for me so I can't see what the actually relevant figures are. Thryduulf (talk) 23:03, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete This got 5 page views in the last year, which is basically noise levels of usage. As a title with partly missing diacritics I don't think it's a plausible search term. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 20:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

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:Keepish. WP:CHEAP, as nom said, and there are at least a few pageviews per year. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 11:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

:Delete per 192.76.8 - page views are essentially negligible, and this redirect would only help searchers that somehow are able to type ọ but not any of the other diacritics. eviolite (talk) 02:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Connection Tour 07==

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==🔴==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Red Circle. Without prejudice to retargeting other similar characters that were listed by the IP if necessary. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:47, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

  • {{no redirect|1 = 🔴 }} → :Circle  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: {{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:🔴|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#🔴 closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:🔴|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#🔴 closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:🔴|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:{{FULLPAGENAME}}#🔴 closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]}} ] 

Seems a little weird to me that we're assuming that people who specifically write in 🔴 want to go "Circle"—seems much more likely that if they're gonna take the time to copy and paste the unicode emoji, they'd want to be navigated to The Color Red. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment If you cannot see this emoji, it is a large red circle the same size as other emojis. On some platforms, it has a glossy specularity. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep without prejudice. This character is U+1F534 "LARGE RED CIRCLE", the similar characters 🟠 🟡 🟢 🟣 🟤 🔵 🔶 🔷 🔸 🔹 🔺 🔻 🟥 🟦 🟧 🟨 🟩 🟪 🟫 all redirect to Circle, Rhombus, Triangle or Square as appropriate to their shape and this one should not be singled out from the set. All individual unicode code points that have a defined meaning are plausible search terms and should lead to somewhere. In this case I don't see any reason why that somewhere should not be the article about the shape, but if others prefer the colour or some other target then the set should be discussed as a whole. Thryduulf (talk) 21:37, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - no opinion on Circle vs e.g. Red, but changing it to the color would require a discussion involving all of the other ones pointed out above. Although the song in question apparently has been illustrated as a red dot on some versions of the CD, it doesn't look like there's an official name, and the album predates emoji's inclusion in Unicode anyway (so the dot isn't specifically the emoji.) eviolite (talk) 04:15, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Red Circle. feminist (talk) 03:29, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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:Retarget to Red Circle, and additionally, take the other ones pointed out by @Thryduulf and retarget them to Orange Circle, Yellow Circle, Blue Square, Orange Rhombus, etc etc, if such articles exist. If such articles don't exist (if there is actually an Orange Rhombus article I will genuinely be surprised), keep the current redirects. casualdejekyll 01:53, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

::I have no objection to this suggestion. Thryduulf (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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  • Retarget to Red Circle per WP:REMOJI and above. Bonoahx (talk) 17:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget + Retarget list of thryduulf per casualdejekyll Happy Editing--IAmChaos 11:06, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment there are very few "colour shape" pages for which these emoji have any plausible connection to the topic discussed; {{-r|green circle}} and Red Square (painting) seems to be the only ones are actually about solid-coloured geometric shapes (to be fair, I haven't checked rhomboids and triangles yet) 61.239.39.90 (talk) 03:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Department of public services==

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to Public Service Commission. Liz Read! Talk! 06:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that there are many other, more prominent departments along the lines of public services other than this random "now-defunct Department of Public Services" —twotwofourtysix(My talk page and contributions) 07:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

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  • Retarget to public service Public Service Commission This type of department doesn't just exist in one Filipino city, but is a worldwide concept. Definitely shouldn't be limited to one country or city. Nate • (chatter) 20:55, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

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:Note: The page thryduulf linked is now an SIA. Pinging {{Ping|Lenticel|Thryduulf|Eureka Lott|Mrschimpf}} who participated before it was relisted twice with no discussion to let you know that that was changed. Happy Editing--IAmChaos 11:08, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

::Thank you, that page now matches what I want in a target for this redirect so my recommendation to retarget to Public Service Commission stands. Thryduulf (talk) 11:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

:::Consider this an 'aye' in regards to the retargeting; that now makes much more sense. Vote! so changed. Nate • (chatter) 20:22, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

::::I'm fine with a SIA. --Lenticel (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Future Event List==

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==Wikipedia:AW==

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to Wikipedia:Article wizard. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Should this redirect to Article Wizard, like WP:aw? – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 03:51, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

:{{replyto|AssumeGoodWraith}} I would suggest bundling the other redirect into this nomination, since the aim here seems to be to syncronise them. I would be tempted to retarget WP:aw, since it was fairly recently created and has no real incoming links, as opposed to WP:AW which has been around for 15 years and has a few dozen links. 192.76.8.77 (talk) 17:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

:: Bundled. ~~~~
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  • I'd say target all to the article wizard. It's weird that it currently goes to Template:Wikipedia Awards rather than Wikipedia:Awards. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 23:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Admin note I've nuked WP:aw per WP:G5. If someone wants to recreate it following the result of the above discussion I don't see any reason why that would be an issue. Primefac (talk) 07:40, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep. There needs to be a very good reason to change a shortcut that has "been around for 15 years and has a few dozen links", and I'm not seeing any in this nomination or elsewhere. Thryduulf (talk) 20:47, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
  • :One good reason to change a shortcut is when most (or all) of the existing uses are not for the current, but for the proposed target :) – Uanfala (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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  • Change. I've checked five existing uses of the shortcut at random (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), and in all of them the intended target was the article wizard. Retargeting there certainly makes sense, though it may be wiser to both resolve potential future ambiguity and accommodate present uncertainty by creating a disambiguation page. – Uanfala (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget per Uanfala. Article wizard is much popular and searched for page than Wikipedia Awards as shown by [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2021-03-03&end=2022-03-03&pages=Wikipedia:Article_wizard{{!}}Template:Wikipedia_Awards pageview stats of past 12 months]. If a significant number of current links to WP:AW were meant for Article Wizard but are leading to Wikipedia Awards instead, I think that's an issue needs to be solved. AW is a much more natural shortcut for Article Wizard than anything else. Article Wizard page itself was created 5 years ago. No way someone would have known 15 years ago that we'd have a much better candidate for AW to redirect to. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 22:25, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • To be fair, the current version of the Article Wizard was written in 2017 but the old version previously occupying that title goes back to 2007. This redirect was created before that, in 2006, so your point is still valid. -- Tavix (talk) 22:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • :Thanks for correcting me. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 22:41, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • {{ec}} Retarget to Wikipedia:Article wizard per Uanfala (until the last clause, I oppose disambiguating). I've spot-checked a few additional links myself (6, 7, 8, 9, 10) and came to the same conclusion. Additionally, the new target will resolve the namespace mismatch. I'm not concerned at all about the lowercase version; lowercase shortcuts are rarely (if ever?) used. -- Tavix (talk) 22:27, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
  • :re lowercase shortcuts. They are sometimes used when the shortcut is a word, especially if it's 4 or more letters (e.g. [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=this-year&pages=Wikipedia:Keep|Wikipedia:KEEP WP:KEEP and WP:Keep both get used]) but two letter combinations that aren't a common word are rare. I wouldn't go out of my way to create one, but equally wouldn't go out of my way to delete one that matches the target of an unproblematic uppercase version. Thryduulf (talk) 11:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
  • ::I'm shocked that you're replying to me about something that I already expressed that I don't care about, instead of correcting your hasty !vote in the face of "new" information (new in quotes because it was there for you to figure out on your own). -- Tavix (talk) 12:53, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

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==Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/2012 proposed revision==

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==Talk:List of Negro league baseball players/test==

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