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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 25, 2022.

==IPhone 6S, iPhone 6S Plus==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. Editors remain closely divided on this question after 2 relists. signed, Rosguill talk 20:03, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

It is unlikely that someone would search both the IPhone 6S and the IPhone 6S Plus in the same search. Note that the “I” in the IPhone 6S is capitalized while the IPhone 6S Plus is not. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 17:57, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete - unlikely combination of words, punctuation, and errors. Sergecross73 msg me 18:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete as an implausible search term. Rubbish computer (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete as unwieldy. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:29, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep. No WP:XY issue since both subjects in the redirect are at the target article. Also, the nomination statement is a bit of a red herring since the first letter of every title on Wikipedia has to be capital for technical reasons per WP:NCLOWERCASEFIRST (note how, for example, apple and Apple both link to Apple): The only way to "fix" this ... well, the way it appears ... is to use {{Tl|DISPLAYTITLE}} on the page with the title in question so it can appear differently at the top of the page. In a nutshell, iPhone 6S, iPhone 6S Plus, the title with both "i"s lowercase, links to the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 22:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep per Steel. Both subjects are mentioned at target, so this redirect is still helpful for those who search for this. No need for deletion. CycloneYoris talk! 05:44, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Keep per Steel1943. A7V2 (talk) 06:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep per Steel1943; the target promintently discusses both of these iPhone models. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:09, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom (but not the initial caps part), so as to discourage comma-separated redirect titles of multiple terms mentioned at the target. Otherwise we may have 2, 3 or more comma-separated search terms as redirect titles. Unless we have a MOS that says two search terms are the maximum allowed. We already have the IPhone 6S Plus redirect. IPhone 6S and 6S Plus may also be bundled here. Jay 💬 09:22, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
  • :Sounds like a WP:PANDORA argument. For the most part, though WP:PANDORA exists, there seems to be precedent against arguments relating to its concept, and I agree with the apparent precedent. Just because a few instances exist doesn't necessarily mean more will be created, and even then, such redirects are not harmful. Steel1943 (talk) 14:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Invertible element==

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==Larry Mackey==

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==Born to Run (song)==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to Born to Run (disambiguation)#Music. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:42, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Ambiguous; see Born to Run (Emmylou Harris song). Retarget to Born to Run (disambiguation)#Music. 162 etc. (talk) 19:07, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Born to Run (disambiguation)#Music as {{tl|R from incomplete disambiguation}} per nom for now as a malplaced redirect. That said, a requested move could/should consider moving the current target over the redirect as a primary topic; it's odd that the overall primary topic for Born to Run is the album, but the title track is not the primary topic among other songs. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Weak retarget the Bruce Springsteen song has 3,144 views but the Emmylou Harris song has 127Born_to_Run_(Emmylou_Harris_song). Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:30, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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==ಅದೇಗಾರಹಳ್ಲಿ==

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:The result of the discussion was soft delete

. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_preload&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:ಅದೇಗಾರಹಳ್ಲಿ}}&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 25#%E0%B2%85%E0%B2%A6%E0%B3%87%E0%B2%97%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%B9%E0%B2%B3%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B2%E0%B2%BF}}&editintro=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_intro&preloadtitle={{urlencode:ಅದೇಗಾರಹಳ್ಲಿ}}§ion=new&title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_undeletion&create=Request request the article's undeletion]. ✗plicit 00:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

This is a Kannada language redirect with an orthographic error. The correct Kannada redirect to Adegarahalli would be ಅದೇಗಾರಹಳ್ಳಿ. Since this redirect of a village is very unlikely to be used in English Wikipedia, it's better to delete since it is also erroneous. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:52, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Bytesex==

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==Destroy Dick December==

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==Chanderpaul==

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==Sara Fisher Ellison==

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==2022 Wisconsin Treasurer elections==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to 2022 Wisconsin Treasurer election. Jay 💬 10:03, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Only one state treasurer election held in Wisconsin this year, so the plural is inaccurate and not a useful redirect to keep around. Elli (talk | contribs) 08:58, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

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==List of highest mountains of Australasia==

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==Royal massacre==

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:The result of the discussion was retarget

to List of regicides. (non-admin closure) TartarTorte 20:13, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Delete or at the very least turn into a disambiguation. There have been many royal massacres in history, so why should "Royal massacre" redirect to a particular one? Mucube (talk) 05:45, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Are there actually any other articles that share the title? If not, disambiguation isn't viable. – Scyrme (talk) 12:01, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget to List of regicides. Changing to a dab page would mean making a decision on what constitutes a "massacre", for which sourcing will be very difficult. Tevildo (talk) 16:06, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget per Tevildo. I haven't found any other titles that explicitly use "royal massacre", so disambiguation doesn't seem viable. While someone could point to articles that could be interpreted as being equivalent (eg. Execution of the Romanov family) which could be listed at a disambiguation page alongside Nepalese royal massacre, this could raise arguments over what constitutes a "massacre" (eg. some might argue that conflating "execution" and "massacre" is biased). The list avoids any such disputes, and most likely has whatever page is being searched for (including Nepalese royal massacre). – Scyrme (talk) 18:54, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Royal Massacre (disambiguation). No single royal massacre is significant enough to be the primary topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mast303 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
  • :Royal Massacre (disambiguation) does not exist, nor should it since there are no articles sharing that title. (Neither does Royal massacre (disambiguation), which also isn't needed.) – Scyrme (talk) 00:20, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Retarget per Tevildo and Scyrme. We have :Category:Massacres with several sub-categories, but not for royalty. Jay 💬 09:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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==Home Video Computer==

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:The result of the discussion was Delete Home Video Computer

. I see a rough consensus to delete Home Video Computer, and no consensus regarding The Family Computer signed, Rosguill talk 18:52, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Could also refer to a Personal computer or perhaps even a Laptop. Sure the NES is officially called The Family Computer but it could also refer to any other family oriented computer too. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:07, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Delete. Even if it was useful when created, it isn't now. MarcGarver (talk) 14:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep Family Computer and The Family Computer since neither a personal computer nor a laptop would be correctly called Family Computer in title case. Delete Home Video Computer as not mentioned at the target. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 00:39, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep Family Computer, it's a common enough term and occasionally used in place of "Famicom" e.g. "Family Computer Disk System". Delete the other two. MightyArms (talk) 03:28, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment: It seems like there is a lot of objection to delete/retarget the Family computer redirect so I will Withdraw those redirects. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 13:14, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
  • :Note that the nom withdrew The Family Computer but then reverted it with comment {{tqq| I’ll unwithdraw The Family Computer redirect}}. Jay 💬 08:24, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
  • ::It was because After withdrawing The Family Computer redirect I saw that there was a delete vote for that redirect that I didn’t notice so I had to unwithdraw since there was a user that wanted to delete The Family Computer redirect. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 00:58, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete Home Video Computer to the best if my knowledge thr NES has never been referred to a such and Home video has a meaning that is separate from video games.--65.92.162.81 (talk) 19:43, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Keep Home Video Computer but add mention as a product code. [https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/nintendo-has-applied-to-trademark-the-nsw-abbreviation/] The mention would be needed if it is to be kept at HVC (disambiguation) AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
  • :Or conversely, if it's not notable enough to have a reference made to it on the Nintendo Entertainment System page, it probably shouldn't be an entry on HVC (disambiguation). —Twice Nothing (talk) 21:45, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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:Delete both remaining redirects. "The Family Computer" is not a plausible search or linkage term. "Home Video Computer" might possibly deserve a footnote somewhere, but is also useless as a redirect. —Twice Nothing (talk) 21:52, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Switch lanes==

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:The result of the discussion was Disambiguate at Switch Lanes

. signed, Rosguill talk 18:49, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

The redirect Switch lanes currently points to an album by Tyga, while the similar but differently capitalized Switch Lanes redirects to a former section in Rittz. It feels quite odd that the capitalization is used to indicate a different WP:PTOPIC, especially where there is also some plausible target for these in a driving-related article. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 16:42, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

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==RP2C02==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:47, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the article. Nor in any other articles on the Wiki. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:46, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment The RP2C02 and RP2C07 refer to the name of the Picture Processing Unit (PPU) inside the NES/Famicom, with the "02" being the one used in Japan and the U.S. and the "07" being the one used in the PAL version of the console. MightyArms (talk) 18:20, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment At {{tl|Ricoh}} Ricoh RP2C02/RP2C07 is piped to Video display controller#List of example VDCs although there is no mention. Jay 💬 14:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Crime Ring==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. Multiple suggestions and opinions but no clear agreement. Without prejudice to renominating if anyone desires. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:39, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

This used to be a 2-entry disambiguation page (for Crime Ring (film) and Organized crime) but it was recently blanked and redirected to the latter. Is that acceptable or not in the context of WP:DIFFCAPS? Pinging {{re|Onel5969 }}{{re|Omnipaedista}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:02, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment - well, it definitely shouldn't be a redirect to organized crime, where the term is not used. However, I can see it being a valid search term for the concept. But since there is a film by that name, it should either be returned to a dab, or the film should have its dab removed, and the hatnote at the film should suffice.Onel5969 TT me 21:07, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment - Please see WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: my understanding is that it is highly likely for "organized crime" to be the topic sought when a reader searches for "crime ring". --Omnipaedista (talk) 21:37, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
  • {{re|Omnipaedista}} Please see WP:DIFFCAPS: "crime ring" and "Crime Ring" are not the same thing. The assertion of a primary topic is made difficult when Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:21, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Move Crime Ring (film) to Crime Ring as the primary topic for the proper noun. Classic WP:DIFFCAPS situation; the lowercase Crime ring is a redirect to organized crime and is where any lowercase searches will be directed; users using the uppercase more likely than not seek a proper noun. Hatnotes should be in place to allow users to navigate between the proper noun and common noun meanings. A disambiguation page is not needed. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:37, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Restore DAB its probably best like Friendly Fire to have the DAB at the title case base name. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:17, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

::But Friendly Fire has multiple uses for the capitalized form. Here, there is only one use, rendering hatnotes sufficient. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:42, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Move and hatnote per Mdewman. Jay 💬 02:12, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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==High-residue diet==

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:The result of the discussion was delete

. Legoktm (talk) 04:32, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Not mentioned in target. Onel5969 TT me 17:28, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

  • Keep I've added a cited mention in the article. --Lenticel (talk) 01:16, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Keep and re-add the mention that was added by Lenticel. CycloneYoris talk! 00:17, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Pinging the reverting editor {{u|Zefr}} for an opinion. Jay 💬 08:03, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
  • I reverted mention of a "high-residue diet" [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dietary_fiber&diff=1119345038&oldid=1119338132&diffmode=source here] because a) the source provided is not a secondary review in the peer-reviewed literature on diets (therefore, WP:UNDUE); b) the term itself is not in common use. A search of PubMed for reviews on the term [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=high-residue+diet+review here] gave two 40 year old publications of dubious quality; and c) the edit by Lenticel made a previously clear sentence unclear. It seems the term "high-residue diet" is little or no longer used and does not need to be in the encyclopedia. Zefr (talk) 16:26, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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  • Delete per Zefr as a term with uncommon / dubious use. It may be recreated if mention is added back to the target or any other article. Jay 💬 12:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Delete per Zefr, Jay. signed, Rosguill talk 18:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

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==War never changes==

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==Redirects to [[Norwest Corporation]]==

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:The result of the discussion was no consensus

. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 01:35, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Per the information in the target article, both of these redirects should target {{No redirect|Citicorp}} as {{Tl|R from former name}}s (and {{Tl|R avoided double redirect}}s, apparently), but ... I'm not finding any evidence that these redirects are former names for either the target article's subject or {{No redirect|Citicorp}}, and third party search results aren't helping to discover the connections either. I am also finding no references in either article that back up these titles' connections to either article's subject. Steel1943 (talk) 22:53, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

  • Comment [https://www.usbanklocations.com/united-bank-of-arizona-18158.shtml This] seems to support the claim United Bank of Arizona was bought by Citicorp. Can't find info on the other one through Google but will try to poke around some more. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Comment Great Western Bank and Trust was acquired by Citicorp in 1986 ([https://www.nytimes.com/1985/09/27/business/citicorp-to-add-arizona-bank.html NYT]). Norwest acquired Citicorp's Arizona business in 1993. Norwest then merged with Wells Fargo in 1998. 162 etc. (talk) 23:18, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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==Luminator==

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