Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 October 28#Erasing rule

• {{no redirect|1 = Matthew sucka }} → :Matthew Sluka  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Matthew sucka|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Matthew sucka closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Matthew sucka|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Matthew sucka closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Matthew sucka|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Matthew sucka closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

{{NPPaction}} Pejorative misspelling. As far as I can tell, it's not a common term for him, and it's received zero coverage. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete WP:G10 it. No hits online. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Wokot }} → :Godot (game engine)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Wokot|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Wokot closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Wokot|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Wokot closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Wokot|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Wokot closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

{{NPPaction}} Not mentioned at target. Appears to be a pejorative portmanteau of "woke" and "Godot", coined as part of some recent controversy. I couldn't find any coverage of this term in reliable sources. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:At present, the relevant content is reported to a certain extent outside the English-speaking world.[https://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E9%96%8B%E6%BA%90%E9%81%8A%E6%88%B2%E5%BC%95%E6%93%8E%E3%80%8Cgodot%E8%A6%BA%E9%86%92%E8%AE%8Awokot%E3%80%8D%E7%82%8E%E4%B8%8A%EF%BC%81%E9%96%8B%E7%99%BC%E8%80%85%E3%80%81%E6%8D%90%E6%AC%BE%E8%80%85%E5%B8%8C%E6%9C%9B%E5%88%A5%E6%90%9E%E6%94%BF%E6%B2%BB-%E4%B8%8B%E4%B8%80%E7%A7%92%E5%8D%BB%E9%81%AD%E5%88%B0%E5%B0%81%E9%8E%96-050458795.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHfMB74WmjZR3-esaqo5r2p-X40qR3OHCLvlmB5l4A5J-5-2gPFEMzn2_nzbDvuREmnbKrPvmOcEbaCEzFecLvO3XhOxw5vhc7w38gd783GzyPAh84GVqXX4hXMJ2urCBRLG25pWJVYhjDeeK_lnSk6Tu7o83Mk1CFIGx6Yut8Xp&_guc_consent_skip=1730159770][https://tw.news.yahoo.com/godot%E5%85%AC%E5%91%8A%E5%9B%A0%E3%80%8C%E9%81%AD%E5%A4%A7%E9%87%8F%E9%A8%B7%E6%93%BE%E3%80%8D%E6%89%8D%E6%9C%83%E8%AA%A4%E9%8E%96%E9%96%8B%E7%99%BC%E8%80%85%EF%BC%8Credot%E5%88%86%E5%8F%89%E5%BC%95%E6%93%8E%E7%99%BB%E5%A0%B4%EF%BC%9A%E6%88%91%E5%80%91%E4%B8%8D%E6%9C%83%E7%A2%B0%E6%94%BF%E6%B2%BB-025921626.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHfMB74WmjZR3-esaqo5r2p-X40qR3OHCLvlmB5l4A5J-5-2gPFEMzn2_nzbDvuREmnbKrPvmOcEbaCEzFecLvO3XhOxw5vhc7w38gd783GzyPAh84GVqXX4hXMJ2urCBRLG25pWJVYhjDeeK_lnSk6Tu7o83Mk1CFIGx6Yut8Xp&_guc_consent_skip=1730159760] 甜甜圈真好吃 (talk) 23:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:Delete. Can't find any coverage by RSes and of highly questionable lasting relevance. Also extremely doubtful that a user would know the perjorative but not the actual name.  novov talk edits 09:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

:* Delete According to Know Your Meme, the term comes from a social media controversy, no actual RS coverage. मल्ल (talk) 15:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

:Delete if not speedy delete per WP:G10 TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 18:56, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Jealousy definitions }} → :Jealousy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Jealousy definitions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Jealousy definitions closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Jealousy definitions|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Jealousy definitions closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Jealousy definitions|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Jealousy definitions closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

This is no more useful than a Facts about [insert topic here] page. The target page already includes a link to the word's Wiktionary entry. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 21:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Keep as a valid {{tl|R with history}}. Title is plausible enough for keeping as a redirect. Perhaps it's a bit redundant, but I don't see why it should be deleted. CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:32, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per CycloneYoris. Someone will find what they are looking for at the target or at the Wiktionary entry linked from the target. Thryduulf (talk) 13:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep but move to Jealousy (emotion) without leaving a redirect so that it can make more sense as a redirect. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Move without redirect to Jealousy (emotion) to keep the edit history, but to get rid of the search term that sounds like a WP:DICDEF issue that I'd be advocating for deletion otherwise. Steel1943 (talk) 21:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Move without redirect per Steel1943's solution. If not, delete because Wikipedia is not a FAQ and this is not how we do redirects on Wikipedia. We don't add the word "definitions" to the end of any search term, and there is no indication why this one would be special, so keep the history at a title that is inline with Wikipedia redirect practices. This will be evident in the move log. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 11:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Nintendo Twilight }} → :Nintendo DSi  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Nintendo Twilight|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Nintendo Twilight closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Nintendo Twilight|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Nintendo Twilight closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Nintendo Twilight|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Nintendo Twilight closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not mentioned at target article, doesn't appear relevant LR.127 (talk) 20:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess existing, a game developed and published by Nintendo. Steel1943 (talk) 20:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete I have never encountered any reliable source referring to the DSi as "Twilight" while expanding that article. « Ryūkotsusei » 01:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Mormons Losing Money }} → :Multi-level marketing  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Mormons Losing Money|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Mormons Losing Money closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Mormons Losing Money|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Mormons Losing Money closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Mormons Losing Money|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Mormons Losing Money closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Implausible redirect LR.127 (talk) 20:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. While there is scientific research pointing to disproportionate involvement of Mormon women in MLM (cf. {{cite journal | last=Whitehead | first=Deborah | title=Startup Culture: MLMs, Mormons, and Entrepreneurship | journal=Mormon Studies Review | publisher=University of Illinois Press | volume=10 | date=2023-01-01 | issn=2156-8022 | doi=10.5406/21568030.10.04 | pages=31–41}}), this redirect appears to be derogatory and carries no benefits for encyclopedia: whoever is interested in Mormons and MLM would not type this phrase into a search engine. Викидим (talk) 20:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Delete: The user who created the redirect (@Someone who's wrong on the internet) has a history of creating inappropriate (sometimes humorous) joke redirects like %E2%A9%98%E2%A9%97, 2b%E2%88%A3%C2%AC2b, and Talk:%F0%9F%9A%81. These fall under the "who would seriously try searching this on Wikipedia?" category. Do note that they have moved on from creating these and make a lot of constructive edits. Sirocco745 (talk) 04:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep (in the interests of transparency, I probably would not have watched the redirect had it not been mentioned on Discord). I do not believe this meets WP:RDELETE #3 or #8, as such I do not believe there is an argument for deletion rooted in our policies and guidelines. First of all I believe it's arguable that it's {{tq|derogatory}} (I'd call it critical myself, but I don't really consider any joke at all derogation), but the threshold for #3, {{tq|offensive or abusive}} would need to be more direct than even derogatory to be met. As for plausibility, besides the scholarly article cited above, it is mentioned by a number of NEWSORGs, such as [https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/eye-pyramids-part-3-mlms-and-conservative-republican-infrastructure/ The Nation], [https://slate.com/business/2017/02/the-trump-era-will-be-a-boon-for-multilevel-marketing-companies.html Slate], [https://www.businessinsider.com/nu-skin-down-on-herbalife-short-fears-2012-12 Business Insider], [https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/mitt-romney-nu-skin-multilevel-marketing-schemes/ Mother Jones], [https://fortune.com/2012/10/26/nu-skin-and-the-short-sellers/ Fortune], which calls it {{tq|an old joke}}, [https://www.sltrib.com/news/2024/01/13/why-multilevel-marketing-is-so/ The Salt Lake Tribune], which calls it {{tq|well-documented}} and [https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/selling-the-bro-dream-are-frat-boys-peddling-vemma-suckers-190425/ Rolling Stone] ({{tq|most common bastardization}}) (plus [https://www.salon.com/2015/03/24/apocalypse_is_right_around_the_corner_rick_perlstein_unloads_on_mike_huckabee_style_conservatives/ Salon], but there's no consensus for their reliability). Also a [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dead_Companies_Walking/0Wb2AwAAQBAJ 2015 book]. I hope the number of RS that have used it is able to convince you that this is a well-attested term, LR.127. I believe this is an WP:RKEEP #3 (it's plausible someone not familiar with the term might hear it, and not know what it refers to), it is neither novel nor particularly obscure, and well within the standards set by WP:RNEUTRAL. Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Unless the person searching already understands the insult, they will not obtain any information about it in the article. So I still fail to see the utility of the redirect (how does it improve the encyclopedia?). Викидим (talk) 05:21, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::"I don't see the use of it" is not a listed reason to delete a redirect. #8 clearly indicates that both parts (novel or very obscure, not mentioned) need to be met, and the term is neither novel nor obscure. A reader would be informed that the title they tried to go to is an alternate name for the article they were taken to, and (while this is not the forum to discuss article content) the normal way to deal with an {{tl|r without mention}} (other than tagging with a more specific rcat) is to {{em|add}} a mention, to a relevant place, for example, immediately after where the article discusses how common it is in Utah in § United States. Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• :The context you've provided does give some credibility to the redirect's existence. Regardless, I can't decide if it's a worthwhile redirect, so I'm going to change my delete to weak because of that. Sirocco745 (talk) 05:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete as very seriously implausible. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 05:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Alpha301 has explained exactly why this is a highly plausible and useful search term. Adding a sentence at Multi-level marketing#United States and refining it to point there would seem to be even more helpful but without the specific mention the top of the article is most useful. Thryduulf (talk) 13:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Noted in RS as a commonly used parody of the acronym, and not insulting enough to delete outright. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete, not mentioned at the target, plain and simple. Outside use of the term is irrelevant, since we have no encyclopedic content about it. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• Keep per {{u|zxcvbnm}} Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 02:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = 4-aminopurine }} → :4-Aminopyridine  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:4-aminopurine|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#4-aminopurine closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:4-aminopurine|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#4-aminopurine closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:4-aminopurine|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#4-aminopurine closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

4-Aminopurine and 4-aminopyridine are different chemical compounds and "4-aminopurine" is not mentioned at 4-Aminopyridine. Marbletan (talk) 19:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• delete See [https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/4-Aminopurine PubChem] which shows they are completely different. Mangoe (talk) 21:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per the above. No content on enwiki about 4-aminopurine. Mdewman6 (talk) 07:31, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Black Yoshi }} → :Yoshi  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Black Yoshi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Black Yoshi closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Black Yoshi|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Black Yoshi closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Black Yoshi|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Black Yoshi closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Anyone looking up "Black Yoshi" is going to want information specifically about Black Yoshi, but the article on Yoshi does not even include the word black. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete as a vanity redirect. -1ctinus📝🗨 01:29, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete, unmentioned at target. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 03:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Yoshi's Story, which was the game where Black Yoshi was introduced. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Yoshi's Story per Tavix, where it's even mentioned. Skynxnex (talk) 16:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Falcoln }} → :Falcon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Falcoln|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Falcoln closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Falcoln|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Falcoln closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Falcoln|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Falcoln closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

probably an implausible misspelling TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 18:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Leaning keep. I get about a thousand Google Books hits and about 10,000 Newspapers.com hits, which suggests that it's not all that implausible as a misspelling. BD2412 T 20:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Do you know if these are actual hits or are these OCR errors? -1ctinus📝🗨 01:30, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::The first three pages of Google books hits results (that I can see) are approximately equally misspellings of "Falcon" and uses of "Falcoln" that might or might not be errors (e.g. referring to a pub whose name might be either "Falcon" or "Falcoln"). There are some OCR errors but these are less frequent. Thryduulf (talk) 14:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Phonetically, it's more like Falcone (Italian for falcon), but misspellings in writing probably mostly refer to the bird itself I would assume. Mdewman6 (talk) 07:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per BD2412. There are also web hits (more commonly for Maltese Falcon or Millennium Falcon than the bird) that use this spelling error, so it's highly plausible. Thryduulf (talk) 14:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Implausible spelling error. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:08, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Keep as a plausible misspelling or typo. It's harmless at worst. 🦬 Beefaloe 🦬 21:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
• Delete, forgetting letters is one thing, but ADDING any random letter is beyond implausible to a higher degree, and is not good redirect practice. Typing in "FalcoL" into the search bar now forces this result above any others named "Falco L." such as Falco Lombardi and others. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 08:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
• Keep, plausible misspelling vis-à-vis Lincoln. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Horse Grass }} → :The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess#Link's horse  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Horse Grass|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Horse Grass closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Horse Grass|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Horse Grass closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Horse Grass|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Horse Grass closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 
• {{no redirect|1 = Horse grass }} → :The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess#Link's horse  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Horse grass|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Horse grass closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Horse grass|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Horse grass closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Horse grass|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Horse grass closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Comment both redirects have history as short articles about the item from the Zelda game Special:Permalink/22262945, Special:Permalink/22745977, the latter is implicitly sourced (to the trailer and a screenshot), the former is unsourced but contains nothing not in the latter. According to Google, this is a term in common use for varieties/mixtures of grasses that are good for horses to graze on (we don't seem to have content on that, but our content on types of grass seems to have been organised only with botanists in mind so I may have overlooked something). Additionally it is possibly a synonym for Horsetail, Alfalfa, Horse parsley ans possibly other plants. Horses and Grasses is an album but I don't think that's a good target. I'm honestly not sure what to recommend here. Thryduulf (talk) 14:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Overly vague, let the search function do its job rather than co-opting it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete clearly these are not horsefeed redirects -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 22:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Facecore }} → :List of Star Fox characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Facecore|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Facecore closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Facecore|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Facecore closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Facecore|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Facecore closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:Weak delete. This redirect originally targeted {{-r|Andross}}, before that article was merged into List of Star Fox characters. Andross frequently appears as a giant face, so the redirect could have made sense (a portmanteau of "face" and "hardcore"?). But since I can't find anything about the particular phrase "Facecore" (either in the two articles' history or on Google), I don't see a good reason to keep it. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:27, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete Per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:07, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete as a non-notable neologism unless someone can show its use somewhere. Fieari (talk) 23:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Ruffian (Star Fox) }} → :List of Star Fox characters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Ruffian (Star Fox)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ruffian (Star Fox) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Ruffian (Star Fox)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Ruffian (Star Fox) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Ruffian (Star Fox)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Ruffian (Star Fox) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:Weak delete{{snd}}looking at the original revision (completely unsourced, never merged elsewhere AFAICT) and wikia:starfox:Ruffian, "Ruffian" seems to be a description of a number of unnamed minor characters, rather than a named character. I'm unsure whether this is worth mentioning at List of Star Fox characters, but I'm leaning towards no. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:07, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Uppers (video game) }} → :Marvelous (company)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Uppers (video game)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Uppers (video game) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Uppers (video game)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Uppers (video game) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Uppers (video game)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Uppers (video game) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

I am unsure this game is notable. But redirecting it to Marvelous when there is no information on the game there is not helpful at all to readers. I suggest deletion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:Weak keep. I had created this redirect because the text in Ai Kakuma was pointing to wrong Uppers. I have no opinion on notability of either Ai Kakuma, or the game (the independent notability of the latter is not necessary for the redirect to be justified), but the redirect is actually used (and the - wrong - wikilink existed prior to creation of this one). Marvelous article actually lists the game in the "PlayStation Vita" section. So WP:CHEAP seems to apply. Викидим (talk) 15:04, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

::You could just delete the Wikilink. If the game isn't notable, then there should be no link pointing to it. If the game IS notable, WP:REDLINK applies and links should not just be created for everything simply as a matter of course. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:::As I have already stated, I have not created a new link in Ai Kakuma, the link existed, but pointed to a wrong target. I had simply fixed the target through a redirect. I was not (and am not) attempting to judge the notability of either the actress or the game. There was a broken link, I have fixed it. I have no objection to anyone re-fixing it in some other way (hopefully, this volunteer will also take a look at Ai Kakuma that is entirely just a list of links). Викидим (talk) 16:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - plausible search term. Sources like [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/uppers/.165550 this] make it easy to add a sourced mention at the redirect target. Sergecross73 msg me 17:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• :If a mention was added, it would be WP:UNDUE for an article about the entire company. The point of the company article is not as a directory of their games. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::The mention was there all the time. We had made this situation possible long time ago by allowing articles that look like lists. Personally, I do not think this arrangement to be very printed-encyclopedia-like, but if we want to change it, this is not the place. While this situation is accepted, however, nothing prevents non-notable games from being mentioned on our pages dedicated to the creators (cf. MOS:EMBED and MOS:WORKS, The individual items in the list do not have to be sufficiently notable to merit their own separate articles.). Thus, even adding an item would be in perfect alignment with our rules. Викидим (talk) 21:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• ::There already is a mention. And it's pretty standard practice to have a list of games at a game developers/publisher's article. Or even to spin them out to dedicated lists articles when the lists get too large. (Like List of Square games.) This isn't the place to take a stand against this widely accepted practice. Sergecross73 msg me 12:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Loudward }} → :Ai sponge  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Loudward|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Loudward closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Loudward|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Loudward closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Loudward|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Loudward closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

No mention in the target page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:august 12th, 2036, heat death of the universe. november 4th, 2024, deletion of this redirect (per nom) cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 20:42, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = The Rhythm of ALT }} → :WSTR (FM)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:The Rhythm of ALT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#The Rhythm of ALT closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:The Rhythm of ALT|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#The Rhythm of ALT closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:The Rhythm of ALT|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#The Rhythm of ALT closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

Not mentioned at target. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete The target radio station's slogan is "The Rhythm of ATL," so I presume this is intended to be a misspelling. I do not think it is very plausible, however. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = New York City Birth Index }} → :New York City  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:New York City Birth Index|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#New York City Birth Index closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:New York City Birth Index|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#New York City Birth Index closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:New York City Birth Index|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#New York City Birth Index closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

There does not appear to be a Birth Index located at the page for New York City. Birth Index does not exist, the only thing remotely similar to such a scope that I could find on Wikipedia would be California Birth Index. No mention of "birth index" at the target article, and very few mentions of either "birth" or "index". I tried my best to see if there was anything related within New York City#Demographics, but this just seems unhelpful because I don't think this is what readers would be after if they specified "New York City Birth Index", just to be taken back to the page for "New York City". Demographics of New York City could be slightly better, or Demographic history of New York City, that way it's not just going to the catchall page for "literally all of New York City", if we're able to give a target that is a bit more precise to what readers might be after with this particular search term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 08:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. Not mentioned at target article, only one incoming link from article namespace, and even that is in a reference, not the body text. JIP | Talk 08:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• :Catching internal wiki-links is not remotely the primary purpose of redirects, and even zero internal wiki-links is not a valid reason for deletion. The primary purpose is to aid users to find what they are looking for, often by typing something into the search bar. Internal wiki-links are only a very very small part of that-- after all, we can always edit wiki-links to avoid the redirects in the first place using pipes as necessary. Not being mentioned at the target article is a bigger issue-- sometimes the existence of a redirect is enough to provide the information a user is looking for even without a mention, but not in this case. For the simple reason that we don't have any information on NYC's Birth Index, we should probably delete, but not for lack of links on wikipedia. Fieari (talk) 00:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Fund for the City of New York }} → :New York City  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Fund for the City of New York|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Fund for the City of New York closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Fund for the City of New York|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Fund for the City of New York closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Fund for the City of New York|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Fund for the City of New York closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

"Fund for the City of New York" is not mentioned at the target article. People who use this search term are seemingly looking for the non-profit organization that shares this name. This non-profit is not mentioned or ever alluded to at the target article. The target article, being New York City. People who use this search term would almost certainly not be satisfied when they could have typed in NYC and ended up at the same spot. A non-profit target is desired, which we cannot offer at this time, so this should be converted into a red link to encourage article creation for this non-profit, if it is notable and verifiable, per WP:REDYES. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 08:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Remove This redirect is functionally nonsense. If Wikipedia lacked a page for the American Red Cross it would be ridiculous to suggest redirecting to the page for the United States of America, as pointed out by Utopes, same principal applies. Foxtrot620 (talk) 14:17, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and WP:RSURPRISE. Steel1943 (talk) 17:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - Per WP:REDYES, and because it violates WP:ASTONISH. Fieari (talk) 00:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski }} → :Katyn massacre  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

There is no mention of "Eugenjusz" or "Andrei" at the target article. The only mention of "Komorowski" is in relation to the President of Poland, Bronislaw Komorowski. People looking for information about this person, would not be able to find any information about this person at the target article. Do they have any relation to Bronislaw? According to the talk page archive, this person is the "only surviving witness". However, this information would not be ascertainable in mainspace, and there is a problem if the only way this can be found is by delving into the talk page archives. It does not seem as if this person was ever mentioned in the text, and this talk page discussion occurred in 2012 a couple months before this redirect was created. In any case, it is currently misleading, as we contain no information about this individual, and there is no mention of "Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski" anywhere in the mainspace of Wikipedia. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 08:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. Not mentioned at target article. The target article offers no clue about who Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski is or how he is related to the massacre. No incoming links from article namespace. JIP | Talk 08:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:Comment. Eugenjusz Andrei Komorowski is an author of a single book, "Night never ending", the only escapee from the Katyn massacre. No other details of his life are known, AFAIK, and he therefore is often considered a fictitious figure created by his supposed co-author, Joseph L. Gilmore. FWIW, Викидим (talk) 20:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

::@Викидим Is this story, book, or other person notable? PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

:::I do not know. I did not find much myself, but then I did not try very hard. Викидим (talk) 14:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Erasing rule }} → :Formal grammar  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Erasing rule|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Erasing rule closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Erasing rule|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Erasing rule closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Erasing rule|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Erasing rule closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

There is no mention of "erasing" at the target article, and there is no mention of an "erasing rule" anywhere on Wikipedia, besides a mention on an index for Index of philosophy articles (D–H), which can be removed. People who use this search term will be misled due to a lack of context about their search term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:58, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

:Comment: This redirect is a {{Tl|R with history}}. There was content at this title 2005–2017 (12 years) prior to the content being subject to a WP:BLAR. Steel1943 (talk) 17:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• redirect to Formal grammar#The_syntax_of_grammars where I have added relevant text. Mangoe (talk) 18:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
• :I was tempted to add a {{tl|cn}} but if the term is covered in one of the two references mentioned in the section (Ginsburg, Seymour, Algebraic and automata theoretic properties of formal languages; Harrison, Michael A., Introduction to Formal Language Theory), then it is good. Jay 💬 08:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = DXAP-TV }} → :List of ABS-CBN Corporation channels and stations  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:DXAP-TV|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#DXAP-TV closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:DXAP-TV|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#DXAP-TV closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:DXAP-TV|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#DXAP-TV closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

No mention of "DXAP-TV" at the target article. As it happens, "DXAP-TV" is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. People looking for this subject will be misled by this redirect, which does not directly address their search term. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 07:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = David Carroll (academic) }} → :Cambridge Analytica  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:David Carroll (academic)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#David Carroll (academic) closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:David Carroll (academic)|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#David Carroll (academic) closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:David Carroll (academic)|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#David Carroll (academic) closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

No mention of "Carroll" at the target article, and the only mention of "David" is three people named David who appear in the references. This redirect was created in 2018 towards this page (i.e., no valuable history which could be lost; it has always been a redirect). The edit summary states: "Redirect for now". It has now been 6 years since this redirect about a person has been created, and no material related to this person has been brought about. The existence of this redirect misleads people into thinking that we have material related to David Carroll the academic on Wikipedia, when we do not. Therefore, it should be deleted in the meantime, to encourage the creation of such an article per WP:REDYES. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Darts Australia }} → :World Darts Federation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Darts Australia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Darts Australia closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Darts Australia|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Darts Australia closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Darts Australia|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Darts Australia closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

This is the only redirect to this article. The article for World Darts Federation does mention Australia, which is good, but does not really give any context towards this search term which is already quite vague. I suggest deletion unless there is a better target out there for "[activity] [country]". Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:REDYES. Darts Australia is the governing/organising body for darts in Australia (c.f. British Darts Organisation, Athletics Australia) but we don't have any content about it. Thryduulf (talk) 14:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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• {{no redirect|1 = Danut Murariu }} → :Salt Bank  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Danut Murariu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Danut Murariu closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Danut Murariu|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:main}}#Danut Murariu closed as retarget}}}} retarget]/[{{fullurl:Danut Murariu|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:main}}#Danut Murariu closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ] 

There is no mention of "Danut Maruriu" at the target article. Searching for this subject has led me to uncover... his Facebook profile, confirming this is a undiscussed person, and not a synonym for the target or discussed material. People looking for information about a person would likely not be thrilled to end up at the page about a bank. Even if the two are connected in some way, such a connection is wholly unknown to readers who might not be informed on why they ended up here or who Danut Murariu is. This should be converted into a red link per WP:REDYES to encourage the creation of an article about the subject, or to encourage the creation of a dedicated section in a related article. "Danut Murariu" occurs nowhere on Wikipedia, so there is nowhere else for this to point to at this time that could give insight for readers' specific search term.

I have no opinion or desire relating to the inclusion of material at the target article. Salt Bank is a four line stub. Currently the Danut Murariu redirect is misleading, and based on the current state of the two pages involved, should be deleted. Not all hope is lost, though! The redirect can be recreated whenever it receives content anywhere on Wikipedia, which doesn't have to be this week or even this year. It can be reinstated any point in time. But, for the last 13 years, no dedicated material has been added, so this redirect has been misleading potential readers for 13 years, and tagged as "unmentioned" since 2020. This RfD has been a long time coming. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 06:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

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