Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Renameduser024/Archive

;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{confirmed}}, but {{unlikely}} to Rowssusan/Tracescoops*:

:*{{checkuser|CharlatanGourou}}

:*{{checkuser|Renameduser024}}

:*{{checkuser|OverAverageJoe}}

:*{{checkuser|TheOverAverageJoe}}

:*{{checkuser|PedroScience}}

:*{{checkuser|HeyNewbieItsDrCox}}

:*{{checkuser|Talkrii}}

:*{{checkuser|Mrfrobinson}} [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=User%3AMrfrobinson&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_thanks_log=1&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_tag_log=1&hide_review_log=1 Renamed]

• *The only reason I say unlikely instead of unrelated is that Renameduser024/Mrfrobinson edit out of their normal editing country within a days drive from Rowssusan/Tracescoops. The UA does not match.
• If a clerk could sort out a new case for the Renameduser024 group, that would be great. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 11:25, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

:*{{Done}} This is copied from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rowssusan. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:26, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=JudasMaccaboxx}}
• {{checkuser|1=Mayflymaynot}}
• {{checkuser|1=Nunshavefun}}
• {{checkuser|1=Enidtheelephant}}
• {{checkuser|1=Earthisnearlyflat}}
• {{checkuser|1=Onthost}}
• {{checkuser|1=Milligansuncle}}
• {{checkuser|1=RugbyRobo}}
• {{Checkuser|1=Threegoodmonkeys}}
• {{checkuser|1=99.249.130.248}}
• {{Checkuser|1=65.186.95.8}}
• {{Checkuser|1=MagneticMarcella}}

• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Renameduser024 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility]

Evidence presented by Cirt

1. Sock account inactive for six (6) years LINK. After sockmaster gets blocked [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ARenameduser024 LINK], sock picks up editing again shortly after block [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=712778309 DIFF].
2. Block evasion. Sockmaster blocked indef by {{u|DeltaQuad}} with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3ARenameduser024 "checkuserblock-account"]
3. Trolling SPI filing shows not here to build an encyclopedia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jytdog&diff=prev&oldid=713935493 DIFF].
4. Prior confirmed socking at Archive.
5. Block on the sockpuppet account can be acted upon per WP:DUCK.

Requesting Checkuser analysis due to prior confirmed history of socking, combined with time period gaps of years in the contribs of the sock account = strong likelihood of sleeper sock accounts.

Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 19:56, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

• Note: Please see also further info at case page = Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rowssusan/Archive. — Cirt (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
• Those with prior experience on the confirmed socking from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rowssusan/Archive include {{u|DeltaQuad}}, {{u|DoRD}}, {{u|Vanjagenije}}, {{u|Ponyo}}, {{u|QuackGuru}}, {{u|Jytdog}}, and {{u|EvergreenFir}}. — Cirt (talk) 20:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

{{hat|different case, now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Biscuittin}}

• Update: Added some more to Checkuser:

1. {{checkuser|1=Enidtheelephant}}
2. {{checkuser|1=Earthisnearlyflat}}
3. {{checkuser|1=JudasMaccaboxx}}
4. {{checkuser|1=Mayflymaynot}}
5. {{checkuser|1=Nunshavefun}}

• Per information from [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AndreyLednev&diff=prev&oldid=714708595 DIFF] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Renameduser024&diff=prev&oldid=714748067 DIFF]. — Cirt (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

{{hab}}

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

{{hat|different case, now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Biscuittin}}

I added Milligansuncle above, which was some kind of very sneaky SOCK (already blocked as a sock, but the master was not identified yet). Similar behavior to the master and this sock, in that the accounts are purely disruptive and targeted at me, Quackguru, and now Guy as well. The master appears to be collecting grudges as they go. Timeline

• per its contribs, Milligansuncle did some very clever things to make itself appear to be a sock of Andy Dingley that was hounding me, leading me to file an SPI that showed (unsurprisingly) that it was not a sock of Andy. See SPI archive.
• Milligansuncle was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Milligansuncle blocked] by Guy 22:23, 5 April 2016 for obviously being a sock of someone.

{{hab}}

• Onhost at 17:08, 6 April 2016 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jytdog&diff=prev&oldid=713935493 filed a lame SPI] against me and Cirt.
• Onhost had previously "woken up" and appeared out of nowhere to make arguments (that were kind of nonsensical) against Quackguru at the fringe notice board, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AFringe_theories%2FNoticeboard&type=revision&diff=712778309&oldid=712776431 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard&diff=next&oldid=712782460 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard&diff=next&oldid=712914354 here].

{{hat|different case, now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Biscuittin}}

The third account for CU is Threegoodmonkeys which has been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AThreegoodmonkeys blocked] also by Guy. I would reckon the name refers to Quackguru, me, and Guy. This account made only two, purely trolling edits:

• [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zedshort&diff=prev&oldid=714239865 dif]
• [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hendersonmj&diff=prev&oldid=714240649 dif]

{{hab}}

The Master is vindictive and committed, so I wouldn't be surprised if all of these came from that person or from {{user|Rowssusan}}. Jytdog (talk) 00:57, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Renameduser024 sig was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:99.238.184.228&oldid=535450486 Mike]. Onthost sig was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Linuxbeak&diff=prev&oldid=194613497#FYI Mike]. Both have the same combative behavior towards me. QuackGuru (talk) 03:45, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

{{hat|different case, now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Biscuittin}}

Milligansuncle and Threegoodmonkeys are sockpuppets belonging to the WURT sockfarm. WURT has no knowledge of the other alleged sockpuppets in this investigation. WURT is certainly targetting Jytdog and JzG, and for good reason. These two pompous and foul-mouthed bullies need taking down a peg or two. WURT is not targetting QuackGuru - we think he is a good chap - but he has no connection with WURT. WURT is happy to assist in clearing people who may be falsely accused of being WURT members but the lightening deletion of our contributions does not make this easy. Earthisnearlyflat (talk) 16:30, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

:User:Earthisnearlyflat, I understand WURT is not targeting QuackGuru. Thanks. QuackGuru (talk) 16:57, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

:There was another post [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAndreyLednev&type=revision&diff=714708595&oldid=714510164 here] by {{noping|Enidtheelephant}} that identifies (as well as Enid) Milligansuncle, Threegoodmonkeys, JudasMaccaboxx, Mayflymaynot and Nunshavefun as additional socks. Jytdog (talk) 18:50, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

{{hab}}

:Ok in all honestly WURT isn't me. In fact I am a little offended that they got looped in with me. I only had one other account, RugbyRobo, which you can go and block. All this started because I tried to vanish but QuackGuru was insistent on outing me, somehow resulting in me getting a 1 week block for edit warring and him getting 24 hours. Fact of the matter JzG is a great admin, Jytdog honestly you are a great editor however you are too heavy handed, QuackGuru needs to find a new hobby and leave this place (you are toxic) and Cirt well I still think Cirt is someone's sock, the evidence is clear on that. Cirt is a fraud, a pretend-a-admin, collects admin accounts on lesser known project sites. Jytdog keep up the work are you doing. Also thank you QuackGuru for driving away a Wikipedian of 11 years who has more academic credentials than you have letters in your name. 99.249.130.248 (talk) 23:07, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Also to clarify:

;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=JudasMaccaboxx}} not me
• {{checkuser|1=Mayflymaynot}} not me
• {{checkuser|1=Nunshavefun}} not me
• {{checkuser|1=Enidtheelephant}} not me
• {{checkuser|1=Earthisnearlyflat}} not me
• {{checkuser|1=Onthost}} ME
• {{checkuser|1=Milligansuncle}} not me
• {{Checkuser|1=Threegoodmonkeys}} not me
• {{Checkuser|1=CharlatanGourou}} ME (you have to admit that was a clever name!)
• {{Checkuser|1=Renameduser024}} obviously me
• {{Checkuser|1=OverAverageJoe }} The account I tried to vanish to
• {{Checkuser|1=TheOverAverageJoe }} I haven't a clue...maybe?
• {{Checkuser|1=PedroScience }} ME
• {{Checkuser|1=HeyNewbieItsDrCox }} ME
• {{Checkuser|1=Talkrii }} No idea who this is
• {{Checkuser|1=Mrfrobinson }} Renamed, created to stop someone from registering the account on the advice of an admin.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.130.248 (talk • contribs)

{{hat|different case, now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Biscuittin}}

Earthisnearlyflat was blocked as a suspected sock of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEarthisnearlyflat&type=revision&diff=714766472&oldid=714757221 Renameduser024]. Earthisnearlyflat might not be Renameduser024. Earthisnearlyflat could be connected with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Renameduser024&diff=prev&oldid=714748067 WURT]. QuackGuru (talk) 01:25, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

{{hab}}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/RugbyRobo might be a sleeper. QuackGuru (talk) 18:15, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

:Dude, I actually told you this above! Change might to is! Also your edit summary " IP 65.186.95.8, I know who you are. Please log in so that admins can block you next time." is borderline outting. This is why you shouldn't be on here, you refuse to even read comments. 99.249.130.248 (talk) 10:58, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.186.95.8 IP 65.186.95.8 may not be connected to Renameduser024. IP 65.186.95.8 may be an editor from a previous dispute following my contributions. QuackGuru (talk) 18:22, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

{{hat|different case, now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Biscuittin}}

• New apparent WURT sock, MagneticMarcella per [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Clarawood123&curid=49429797&diff=715091350&oldid=715074884 this] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MagneticMarcella/sandbox&oldid=715073288 this]. Will add to CU above in next dif.

:There are clearly two interwoven socks in this SPI. Sorry for the mess. Jytdog (talk) 19:09, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

• "MagneticMarcella is a member of WURT, the Wikipedia Urgent Reform Team. Wikipedia is in crisis because there is so much bullying and abuse that new editors are being frightened away. Wikipedia's internal complaints procedures are useless because they always favour the bullies. WURT is a sockfarm (a group of sockpuppets) and we are proud to break Wikipedia's rules because we are doing it in a good cause. We are not the villains - the villains are the bullies. We are happy to disclose which accounts are members of WURT - see User:MagneticMarcella/sandbox."[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MagneticMarcella&diff=next&oldid=715031362] Wikipedia is absolutely in crisis mode. QuackGuru (talk) 22:22, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

::MagneticMarcella has now been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&page=User%3AMagneticMarcella blocked]. QG, are you supporting these socks disrupting WP, not to mention my work here? Jytdog (talk) 22:25, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

:::I did not support the sock. The sock supports my essay. WURT is referring to the essay I created.

:::I'll give you a hint who the master is. Check the edit history of the Reform essay. There is only way to know for sure who the master is. Run a checkuser with all the editors who commented on the Reform essay. QuackGuru (talk) 22:39, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Attention team WURT. Can you stop it with Jytdog? That was not cool. QuackGuru (talk) 23:31, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

{{hab}}

• User:LFaraone thanks for performing a CU. Would you please describe what you checked? This case has become really complex with what appears to be three separate Masters involved and I am not sure how to appropriately disentangle them. Also looking at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=LFaraone&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&subtype=the block log] it appears that you just blocked the following -- would you please name who the Master for these was?
• {{noping|ActionFish78}}
• {{noping|Sam Rigby}}
• {{noping|Leighb89}}
• {{noping|Tansbro1}}
• {{noping|RugbyRobo}}

:Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 22:00, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

User:LFaraone, there are at least three different people socking. Renameduser024, the Wikipedia Urgent Reform Team (WURT), and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/65.186.95.8 IP 65.186.95.8]. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Earthisnearlyflat Earthisnearlyflat] is probably a sock from WURT. Earthisnearlyflat was blocked as a sock of Renameduser024. This could be a mistake. QuackGuru (talk) 01:19, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

• Note, I split out the WURT socks into this case: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Biscuittin. Sorry if I did that incorrectly. Jytdog (talk) 19:16, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

• {{Endorse}} - Although all socks are blocked, endorsed for sleeper check considering the last CU came up with many unknown sleepers. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 03:09, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
• {{Inprogress}} - LFaraone 17:30, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
• Blocked a few likely sleepers. LFaraone 17:47, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
• Case closed. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=EditorDownUnder}}

• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Renameduser024 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility]

The time from the last sock has probably been too long, so this will have to be behavioral. I have requested CU because the Sockmaster has created sleepers before, so if you find the evidence compelling I would urge you to do a CU

The sockmaster (whose account was renamed from Mrfrobinson) and subsequent socks edited often about Canadian topics, stalked User:QuackGuru and subsequently spread that to me, and used FRINGEN as a jumping off point (some evidence here but unlisted IPs did that mostly). That is what this account has been doing.

;sockmaster/socks

• Canada: Sockmasters, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd edits were to Canadian topics per [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Renameduser024&offset=&limit=500&target=Renameduser024 their contribs], [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?name=Renameduser024&page=Wikipedia_talk%3ACanadian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board&server=enwiki&max= 15 edits to WikiProject Canada].. Socks: see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_Athletic_Therapists_Association&diff=prev&oldid=704249690 here] (first edit of one)
• Obsession with QuackGuru and subsequently me. Well, some dispute with Quack over WP:Articles for deletion/Knowledge Engine (Wikimedia Foundation) is where Mrfrobinson/Renameduser024 lost it, so I don't need to establish that. Subsequently me, for instance [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jytdog&diff=prev&oldid=713935493 this SPI] filed against me, cited by Cirt in one of the SPI cases in the archive, and see these two strange edits spreading their ire from me to Drmies and DGG [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&diff=prev&oldid=714803783 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DGG&diff=prev&oldid=714803865 here]. This behavior also included jumping into discussions at EWN that Quack or I were involved in: see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=710125496 this]
• Fringe notice board: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=712952059 this socking IP edit], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=712778309 this] and there are other IP edits not included in the case.

Blocks in the last SPI ended in mid-April of this year, per that case.

;So EditorDownUnder appeared about two weeks later on May 4 of this year.

• Edits 1 through 3 were:

: 1) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=718543923 to FRINGEN] edit;

: 2) an edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jytdog&diff=prev&oldid=719014790 at my Talk page] rebuking me for what I wrote on that board, and

: 3) [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=719277415 another FRINGEN] edit.

• 5th edit was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:QuackGuru&diff=prev&oldid=719316656 rebuke to Quack] on his talk page
• 6th edit was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:European_Graduate_School&diff=prev&oldid=721778498 rebuke to me] on an article Talk page they had never edited before (clearly hounding)
• 8th edit was nominating a Canadian-topic article for deletion, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2016_Ottawa_sinkhole&diff=prev&oldid=725711805 here]
• 12th edit was to a Canadian topic [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FATCA_agreement_between_Canada_and_the_United_States&diff=prev&oldid=730134396 here] that the Sockmaster had [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FATCA_agreement_between_Canada_and_the_United_States&type=revision&diff=594145491&oldid=594106827 tagged for speedy] and subsquently [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FATCA_agreement_between_Canada_and_the_United_States&type=revision&diff=594229304&oldid=594226199 nominated for deletion]
• Edits 13, 14, and 15 were to Talk:Harassment, [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py?name=EditorDownUnder&page=Wikipedia_talk%3AHarassment&server=enwiki&max= here], on a topic related to my recent block, unsurprisingly taking a stance antagonistic toward those arguing to make an exception to OUTING for COI work
• Edits 16-20 are back to Canadian topics
• Edit 21 is back to me, stalking me at an article I was working on, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Epinephrine_autoinjector&diff=prev&oldid=736173192 here], and citing a Canadian website (double points, there)
• Edits 22 and 23 are criticizing me about something else at that article's talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Epinephrine_autoinjector&diff=prev&oldid=736189668 here] and then bringing that to my Talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jytdog&diff=prev&oldid=736210390 here]
• Edits 28 and 29, their last two, are stalker-y attacks about my editing at yet another article, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jytdog&diff=prev&oldid=736749895 here] and the last one, jumping into a 3RR discussion, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=736750242 here].

So stalker-y for Quackguru and me (especially me this time); Canadian focus, using FRINGEN as a launching point. Pretty DUCK to me. (I'll note that I had a stalker Biscuittin who was pretty good at spoofing other users but I am not going there; I am sticking with the surface. Jytdog (talk) 17:57, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

• I respect the CU decline. I do hope the behavioral argument is examined. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 16:26, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

• and this stalker-y behavior continues [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jytdog_removing_talk_pages_comments_based_on_their_opinion in this ANI] Jytdog (talk) 02:00, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

::Outcome of that ANI is one-way IBAN placed on Editordownunder: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FIncidents&type=revision&diff=739650474&oldid=739649934 dif]. Jytdog (talk) 02:27, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

• {{Decline}}: I don't see enough here to justify a sleeper check at this time. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 05:37, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

• I have looked carefully at the editing history of EditorDownUnder, and there are so many similarities that I believe this is another sockpuppet. Some of the most striking similarities that I saw were in attitude to other editors, ways of expressing oneself, and so on, but added to the similarity in editing interests, the common theme of antagonism to Jytdog, and so on, there is a lot there. Also, quite apart from the sockpuppetry issue, most of the editing history is disruptive, with very little constructive editing. An interesting fact is that EditorDownUnder has not edited since being informed of the interaction ban with Jytdog: there have been no edits in 36 days, although in the previous history of the account since it was created on 4 May there had never been a gap between edits even close to that long. My view is that this account is probably due for an indefinite block as a sockpuppet, probably due for an indefinite block for harassment, and probably due for an indefinite block for not being here to contribute to the encyclopaedia. Combining them all together, I shall block the account. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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