Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 April 14

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Subset Games|module=}}

Navbox which navigates only 2 topics. Izno (talk) 22:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• delete, we can easily link two articles without a navbox. Frietjes (talk) 12:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Delete, even if we had an article on the studio themselves, it + 2 games do not need a template. The three articles would be interlinked readily. --Masem (t) 05:17, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:25, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Fb team Fagiano b|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Fagiano|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team F Marinos|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Express Tokyo|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Express T i|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Express T|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Express Osaka|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Express i|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Express|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Eidai Industries|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Eidai|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Ehime FC|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Dragons|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Denso SC i|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Denso SC|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team CUPS|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Cosmo Oil|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team FC Gifu|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Fagiano Next|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team FC Gifu b|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Cobaltore|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Chuo Bohan|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Cerezo U23|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Cerezo|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Cerezo Osaka|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Cambiare|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Brummel|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Briobecca|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Blux|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Blaublitz b|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Blaublitz|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Blackpecker|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Bellmare H|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Bellmare|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Barefoot|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Bandits|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team BAMB 1993|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Azul Claro b|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Azul Claro|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Avispa|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Artista|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Arte|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Aries|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Ardija|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Antlers|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Antelope|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team ANA Yokohama|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team ANA SC|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Amitie|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Alouette|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Ehime F.C.|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Consadole|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team AC Almaleza|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Albirex|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|Fb team Ain Food|module=}}

Old style, no need, even some of are redlinks, should be subst or replaced by other template or style. Previous discussions plaese see WT:FOOTY and previous TfDs. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 14:35, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose They might be the old style, but they're still in use? I don't understand the desire to delete these templates, but nobody seems to want to update the tables to the more modern format? Hell, when I create these types of pages now, I still use the "depreciated" templates. - J man708 (talk) 01:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

::{{ping|J man708}} If the result of the discussion is delete, these templates can be orphaned after the discussion is closed. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 05:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

:::We can develop a bot to update table, such as PrimeBOT or Sporkbot. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 05:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

::::Then why not AFD it AFTER the bot has been updated? - J man708 (talk) 05:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

:::::We have WP:Templates for discussion/Holding cell. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 07:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• SupportDelete all Per previous discussion. Matthew_hk tc 04:28, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 07:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• I think it is better to use direct interlinks in the articles instead if it can do it. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 07:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• delete, it's time to finally kill all of these. Frietjes (talk) 12:08, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
• Keep per {{u|J man708}} - currently these templates are being used and deletion of them screws up tables using them. First a plan needs to be thought out to update the tables not to use the templates and only after that bring them up for deletion as unused. --SuperJew (talk) 16:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

::{{ping|SuperJew}} like {{txl|Fb team Antlers}} → Kashima Antlers. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 22:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

:::And using Module:Sports results and Module:Sports table instead. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 22:50, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Hhhhhkohhhhh}} so first convert all the tables using it as above (also don't forget flags for countries which are not the country of the club) or request a bot to do it. Then, deprecate the templates using them with appropriate documentation so that editors don't try to use them. And after all the templates are not in use and the templates using them are deprecated, then go for mass deletion. I'm not objecting to the concept, but to the order of actions. --SuperJew (talk) 07:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• {{u|SuperJew}} and {{u|J man708}} the point of TfD is to first determine if there is a consensus to eliminate the use of a template and if it is viable to replace it. It doesn't make sense to do numerous edits to convert all the tables if people don't want to convert all the tables - that's is why we have this discussion first. Then once a consensus is there the template is listed in WP:TFDH, where time is given - as much time as needed - for all instances to be removed. The templates are definitely not going to be deleted before the instances are removed. Unlike in other deletion discussions, this discussion ending in delete doesn't mean instant deletion. Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:44, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

::{{reply|Galobtter}} In all previous discussions I've seen that were about this type of template that ended in a delete consensus (usually because only 1 or 2 people even commented on them), the templates were deleted and the tables using them screwed up. --SuperJew (talk) 08:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

:::{{u|SuperJew}} Could you point to such a discussion. That seems rather strange. Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:57, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Delete all per nom, templates are unnecessary for simple wikilinks. The actual discontinuation of these templates will be a somewhat complex process given they cannot be easily substituted, but I'd be happy to help contribute in this process. S.A. Julio (talk) 02:19, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
• Delete - long-standing consensus that these kind of templates are not needed. GiantSnowman 17:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete by {{admin|Fastily}}. (non-admin closure) Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 06:03, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|D.C. Diplomats THC seasons|module=}}

all red links Frietjes (talk) 15:04, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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