Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 May 24#Template:Fake dubious

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:02, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Fbbicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbam-big}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbamicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbbu-big}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbbu-rt}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbbuicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbbu}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbc-big}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbc-rt}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbcicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fblicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbmicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbs-big}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbsicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbsp-big}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbsp-rt}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbspicon}}
• {{Tfd links|Fbwmicon}}

No transclusions. Functionality appears to be provided by other templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:16, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 18:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 19:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
• Comment: I created some of these templates, as discussed here. A lot of these are evidently not used, however I'm wondering how quickly some of these could be merged into the main templates (usually Template:Fbicon). I think all of these relate to sub-teams of the main national team - so Template:Fbbicon relates to the national 'B' (or second) team, Template:Fbamicon relates to the national amateur team, etc. Ideally, there would be one template covering all national football teams at all levels. As I recall when making these, I simply provided flagicon version of all the existing templates in Category:Association football flag templates. Clyde1998 (talk) 14:33, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

:*A merge would be fine with me. Is there someone available to plan and implement such a merge? If these are closed as "merge", they can go to the holding cell pending migration, but it is not desirable for them to live there forever. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:10, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

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• There's no need to merge functionality from unused templates - the fact that they have become unused indicates that they are not useful. Delete all * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:30, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_preload&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Template:Satish Jain}}&preloadparams%5b%5d={{urlencode:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 May 24#Template:Satish Jain}}&editintro=Wikipedia%3AXFDcloser%2FSoft_deletion_refund_intro&preloadtitle={{urlencode:Template:Satish Jain}}§ion=new&title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_undeletion&create=Request request the template's undeletion]. ✗plicit 00:05, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Satish Jain}}

Unused. No mainspace article. At the moment, the mainspace for the director is a draft, but not submitted for review. Only two links to articles on films that have been directed by this person. The films written have been written by this person, but again, no mainspace article for this person. Thus, navigation can't be provided. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:34, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|WikiProject Human–Computer Interaction/class}}

No transclusions. All relevant categories have been deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Project is inactive, no longer assesses articles. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:12, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Rhythmic Contemporary Radio Stations in Oklahoma}}

No transclusions. It appears that both of the stations linked here have changed formats. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Even if they hadn't, this is too small for a navbox. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:17, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|FC Spartak-2 Moscow squad}}

No transclusions. FC Spartak-2 Moscow has been dissolved, so there is no use for this current football squad template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:27, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 19:05, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
• Delete - dissolved club = no current squad = no template. GiantSnowman 19:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Eluru district}}

No transclusions. Appears to be an unnecessary copy of {{tl|West Godavari district}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:55, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

: West Godavari district and Eluru district are two separate districts in the Indian state of Andhra Pradesh so each one needs a template. The districts are each composed of separate objects: cities, mandals, towns, etc. I tried to create the Eluru template and would have populated it, but I ran into a problem. Whenever I tried to edit the Eluru template, the changes also showed up on the West Godavari template and so I stopped. I was about to ask for help, so I am asking now. Thanks. Hmains (talk) 01:45, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete The idea that editing the original template somehow would lead someone to this template is nonsensical. The creator just copied that template. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
• :Not nonsensical at all, unfortunately, from the editor perspective. For some reason, the navbox template uses {{para|name}} to construct the "E" (for edit) link, which can take you to the wrong template. I have fixed that link. The template still has no transclusions, but if it has some by the end of the TFD period, this template should probably be kept. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:30, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

::Even then, it's an exact duplicate of the West Godavari district navbox. The category for the Eluru district has enough articles to stand on it's own. Userfy perhaps. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:01, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

• Keep, it's standard for individual Indian districts to have navboxes. Nominator should have asked the creator what they were doing and offered to assist rather than rushing to nominate for deletion. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 17:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
• keep after User:Jonesey95 fixed the template, I was able to edit its contents and add its transclusions--which I dared not do before (see my comments above) Hmains (talk) 19:03, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:14, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Balthazar-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Casper-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Clemens-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Eberhard-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Gabriel-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|George-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Gerhardt-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Gottfried-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Gregory-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Hugh-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Ludwig-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Melchior-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Reinhard-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Richard-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Robert-surname}}
• {{Tfd links|Zechariah-surname}}

As with the two groups of similar templates deleted after recent discussion at CfD, these "Surnames associated with the given name xxx" templates show unsourced connections between an apparently unreliably-chosen set of surnames and only contribute clutter to the pages to which they have been added. The various surnames could usefully be listed, with sources, in the pages relating to the individual given names, and each surname page could usefully include a well-sourced link to the given name to which it is related, but these navboxes are not an asset to the encyclopedia. PamD 13:53, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete all per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:31, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

• Comment. In the last one of these, I said delete all only because they were unreliably sourced. The 'similar' names were only similar in sound or spelling but not in meaning or etymology. However, if accurate, conceptually I think they are useful and valuable, such as the one at the bottom of Cooper (surname) which we've used since 2014. Admittedly, even that has been recently modified by the user who has made all of these templates. Surnames have many variants and cognates, and to have a box at the bottom that cleanly directs you to them all is invaluable and far easier to navigate than lists. The issue isn't in the concept for me, just in the execution. I'm only not saying whether to keep or delete because I haven't checked the accuracy of these templates. RandomBlobby (talk) 01:00, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 12:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|4Team2ElimBracketNoFinal}}

Replaced by {{4TeamBracket-2Elim | maxround = 2}}. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

• Merge - While both template provide the same purpose, I'd argue that {{tl|4Team2ElimBracketNoFinal}} is more aesthetically pleasing, as well as is clearer that it is indeed a four-team, double-elimination bracket and has has labels for its upper and lower brackets. {{tl|4TeamBracket-2Elim}} looks like a six-team, single-elimination bracket. Since 4TeamBracket-2Elim is more in-use, I propose altering it have the features of 4Team2ElimBracketNoFinal. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 06:35, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

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• Change vote to Delete - Merged with template {{tl|4Team2ElimBracketExceptFinal}}. Merge argument still holds for discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 May 24#Template:4Team2ElimBracketExceptFinal. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 18:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep with NPASR if necessary. Primefac (talk) 10:07, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|4Team2ElimBracketExceptFinal}}

Replaced by {{4TeamBracket-2Elim | legs = 1}}. –Aidan721 (talk) 05:24, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

• Merge - While both template provide the same purpose, I'd argue that {{tl|4Team2ElimBracketExceptFinal}} is more aesthetically pleasing, as well as is clearer that it is indeed a four-team, double-elimination bracket and has has labels for its upper and lower brackets. {{tl|4TeamBracket-2Elim}} looks like a six-team, single-elimination bracket. Since 4TeamBracket-2Elim is more in-use, I propose altering it have the features of 4Team2ElimBracketExceptFinal. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 06:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

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• Change vote to Keep - while it's great that {{tl|4TeamBracket-2Elim}} uses the module {{ml|Team bracket}}, it cannot support headers for the lower bracket. I've made a request on the module's talk page for such a feature, but it has not been responded to. As it stands, {{tl|4Team2ElimBracketExceptFinal}} contains functionality that {{tl|4TeamBracket-2Elim}} does not. As a note, {{tl|4Team2ElimBracketExceptFinal}} did have quite a bit of usage on Wiki, but nearly all instances of it was replaced right before this discussion was made. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 15:26, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Rome Metro color}}
• {{Tfd links|Rome Metro Lines}}
• {{Tfd links|Rome Metro stations}}
• {{Tfd links|Rome Metro style}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Rome Metro right/Line A}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Rome Metro right/Line B}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Rome Metro right/Line C}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Rome Metro left/Line A}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Rome Metro left/Line B}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Rome Metro left/Line C}}
• {{Tfd links|Turin Metro color}}
• {{Tfd links|Turin Metro lines}}
• {{Tfd links|Turin Metro stations}}
• {{Tfd links|Turin Metro style}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Turin Metro right/Line 1}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Turin Metro left/Line 1}}
• {{Tfd links|Genoa Metro color}}
• {{Tfd links|Genoa Metro lines}}
• {{Tfd links|Genoa Metro stations}}
• {{Tfd links|Genoa Metro style}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Genoa Metro right/1}}
• {{Tfd links|S-line/Genoa Metro left/1}}

Replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Rome Metro, Module:Adjacent stations/Turin Metro, Module:Adjacent stations/Genoa Metro REEDriler (talk) 05:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete all per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete and appears to duplicate Template:WeatherStar Generations Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Star Generations}}

Broken, redlinked, unused Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 03:31, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 01:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Fake dubious}}

Redundant to {{tl|Dubious}}. Replace the single transclusion with that template and then delete this one. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

:@Jonesey95 This is a fake version of the dubious template that doesn't sort the page into clean-up categories and the like, for use in documentation and discussions just like {{tl|fake CN}}. The single use of it is a message on a talk page, so replacing it with a real template would not be appropriate. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 22:49, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

::The template has one transclusion and no documentation. If {{tl|dubious}} assigns categories when the template is used outside of appropriate spaces, that should be easy to fix so that it can be used in talk space and template documentation without categorizing those pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:30, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

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