Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 August 20#Template:Overcolored

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Good Article subsection}}

No transclusions. Possibly superseded by some other template (or by Module:Good Articles). Created in 2020. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:26, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• :Delete per nom. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 00:30, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Featured Article subsection}}

No transclusions. Possibly superseded by some other template. Created in 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:25, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|East of England Labour Party MPs}}

Navbox with no main article and no transclusions. Redundant to {{tl|Labour Party UK MPs}}. Created in 2015. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:23, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Diplomatic missions of Bolivia}}

Navbox with no links to articles in the body. Created in 2021. Not usable for navigation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete'. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 06:43, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Diplomatic missions of Belize}}

Navbox with no links to articles in the body. Created in 2021. Not usable for navigation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete'. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 06:43, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Dead name}}

No transclusions or incoming links. Created in 2022. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Constitutionally recognised languages in India}}

Sidebar with no transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions to explain why it exists. Created in 2022. Appears to be redundant to {{tl|Languages of India}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:18, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

:Delete per nom. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 23:33, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Chess Unicode}}

No transclusions or incoming links from discussions. Created in 2022. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|CFL team map 2021 to present}}

Map template with no transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in 2022. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:12, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Auslib}}

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|AREint}}

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:10, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep. Izno (talk) 15:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|1874 Canadian federal election/York East}}

I couldn't find sources to confirm the information in this template is accurate. Boleyn (talk) 13:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

• keep, I used google for you and added a source. Frietjes (talk) 14:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Keep, sourced to Library of Parliament historic election results page. {{nowrap|RA0808 ^talk_contribs}} 04:52, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. As noted for a similar nomination (and mentioned by those for keeping), the current consensus is that highly-technical templates such as these should be kept in the Template space, even if they are single-use. Primefac (talk) 13:27, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|East Wind}}

Single use template. Info can be transcluded in the article about the line named passenger train. The Banner talk 10:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC) Corrected. The Banner talk 10:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

:Aren't most rail lines single use templates? Zackrules90 (talk) 22:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

::I have restored the TfD-notice that you removed. And no, railway line templates are used more often. But this is not a railway line but a train. The Banner talk 23:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

:::There is no difference between having an RDT for a railway line, and one for a named train. They both should be in a separate template - even if they are only used in a single article - for the reasons I listed below. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
• delete after merging with the parent article. Frietjes (talk) 16:49, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Keep due to this note as this template presents present some quality form of navigation or information. Wikipedia:Not_everything_needs_a_template#Exceptions Zackrules90 (talk) 22:45, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: RDTs for all the various uses - railway lines, named trains, walking paths, waterways, etc - have been kept in separate templates for decades, and for good reason. They use completely different syntax than wikitext; it is very easy for a careless search-and-replace or a Visual Editor bug to mangle that. It's easier to modify an RDT as a separate page rather than embedded in an article, and it's easier to edit an article without the RDT code. Substing RDTs into an article solves absolutely nothing and makes things more difficult for everyone. In-use RDTs have consistently been kept at TfD over the years - why are you still trying to push the issue? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:45, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. There is long-standing consensus that route-map templates, even if they are used in a single article, are kept in template space in order to separate their fragile and exotic markup from normal article wikitext. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:59, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• :For railway lines you have a point. But this is about a named passenger train. The Banner talk 10:31, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
• ::Stop creating an artificial distinction, and WP:DROPTHESTICK already when it comes to WP:RDTs that are legitimately in use. They're still diagrammatic representations of a nexus of points, and FWIW there's well over 100 for Amtrak alone. Useddenim Useddenim (talk) 20:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
• :::The fact WP:OTHERSTUFFEXITS does not make it okay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Banner (talk • contribs) 20:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Izno (talk) 15:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Overcoloured per discussion, using the autodetect feature of {{t|engvar}} as discussed. Primefac (talk) 14:18, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Overcolored|module= |type=merge}}
• {{Tfd links|Overcoloured|module= |type=merge}}

Propose merging Template:Overcolored with Template:Overcoloured.

{{Oldtfdlist|Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2009_September_18#Template:Overcoloured|Keep}}

Use {{t|engvar}}'s autodetect. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 06:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

:There is nothing to merge, as they are already merged - it occurred {{diff|Template:Overcolored|478432765|420148152|over twelve years ago}}: since then, {{tlx|overcolored}} has been a wrapper for {{tlx|overcoloured}} with {{para|US|y}} forced, as I pointed out almost nine years ago at Template talk:Overcoloured#Redirect. Whilst it was a WP:BOLD merge by {{user|Thumperward}}, for which I cannot find any discussion or other relevant notices at either Template talk:Overcoloured or Template talk:Overcolored, it was never reverted and has stood the test of time. There is also Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 September 18#Template:Overcoloured. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:01, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

::The autodetect is new in 2024. By "merge", I would like to revert the wrapper into a redirect after adding {{t|engvar}} to {{t|overcoloured}}.

::Compare what I added to {{t|Cleanup colors}} in {{diff||1241257492}}. It almost works and is waiting on my TPER.

::I think this cleaner solution is better. I am at TfD precisely because it {{tpq|has stood the test of time}}. I would like to either:

::# Remove {{para|US}} (and rely on autodetect) if nobody needs it

::# Remove {{para|US}} and add {{para|engvar}} if someone wants customization

::# Keep {{para|US}} and add {{para|engvar}} if backwards compatibility is a concern

::# Keep {{para|US}} and not add {{para|engvar}} (but still keep autodetect) if people feel it's too cluttered

::142.113.140.146 (talk) 08:12, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

:I boldly merged this in {{diff||1241336187}} using the 1st option (no manual override), now that {{t|engvar}} is fixed and I enabled autodetect in {{diff||1241335259}}. A side effect is that it changed many articles, but among them were many fixes like 2000 reasons of the Supreme Court of Canada. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 16:29, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

::And I reverted you. When a page is under discussion at WP:XFD, you should not pre-empt the outcome of that discussion; and if it's a page that you took to XFD, you most definitely must leave it for somebody else to close, which should be no earlier than 06:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

:::Oops, I mistook {{tpq|There is nothing to merge, as they are already merged}} as a go-ahead. So there seems to be "something to merge." WP:NACIP already bars me from closing. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 21:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

:Support. Oh god, this is one of the silliest examples of engvar I've seen. It's a banner (not actual content), what does it matter if it says "color" or "colour". Even without the op's autodetect I would have supported deletion. Gonnym (talk) 09:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Redrose64}}, apologies for being obtuse, but am I reading your objections above mainly to be procedural? {{ppor|no}} Primefac (talk) 13:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

::Partly; the demonstration of how it could be done should not have been by editing the live template, but by means of the template's sandbox and testcases, per WP:TESTCASES. But I am always wary of any template that uses the Lua getContent() function in order to obtain a simple value (in this case the English language variant): it causes the page to transclude itself, which is potentially expensive. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

:::IPs can't create {{tpq|the sandbox and testcases}}. Low-transclusion unprotected templates aren't high-risk.

:::No, a msgnw-like {{tpq|transclude}} is nowhere {{tpq|potentially expensive}} (verify). Don't worry about performance unless a specific page needs it. I saw getContent() only now, but you can discuss it with the author. EDIT: Most citation templates getContent() for {{t|CS1_config}}, but they are well-designed and widespread on most pages

:::If you create {{tpq|the sandbox and testcases}}, I'm open to editing them beforehand when requested. 142.113.140.146 (talk) 00:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

::::Whilst IP editors do have limitations, creating an account and logging in does have its benefits, such as being able to create template sandbox and testcases pages straight away, without waiting to be confirmed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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