Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 June 21#Template:IrishNavyFleet

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== [[Template:Senegal squad 2012 African Women's Championship]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|Senegal squad 2012 African Women's Championship}}

Mostly made up of now deleted articles. No need for this template. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:27, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 10:33, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete - insufficient blue links to be worthwhile. GiantSnowman 10:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete there's currently 4 blue links, of which 2 are currently PRODded. Not enough to warrant a template. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:41, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Delete – Per statements above. Svartner (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

== [[Template:NRHP date for lists]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|NRHP date for lists}}

Template should definitely be deleted per WP:ELHAT. 2600:1700:6180:6290:6826:DFE8:9E69:203D (talk) 23:09, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Keep In this case, the external link in question acts as a de facto citation in most of the 3000+ places it is used. The external link is stable (or has been for more than ten years).

:That said, if there is a way to transform the usage into a proper citation that is not overly labor-intensive and preserves the ability to easily update the "as of" date, I'm all ears. Magic♪piano 19:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

== [[Template:IrishNavyFleet]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|IrishNavyFleet}}

No transclusions. Merge with the more comprehensive {{tl|Irish Naval Service}}, which appears to be preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:23, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

== [[Template:Strip italics]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|Strip italics}}

This template has no documentation. It would be easier to remove the apostrophes that are making the input italics than to type out {{Strip italics|}}. It is therefore useless. Legend of 14 (talk) 18:03, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

:Redirect to Template:Noitalic, which does the same thing in a less-hacky way. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:27, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

  • This is a helper function I had used within other templates. Stripping the wikiformat italics lets us use the input within a wikilink (see earlier versions of {{tlx|ganl}}). Noitalic doesn't work the same way. It's a short function so I copied it over where I had been using it, so delete this one if you see it as having no future value. I thought it was helpful. czar 03:23, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Does this actually strip italics? It looks like it strips bold mark as well?.... Izno (talk) 17:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 12:10, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Redirect this apparently redundant, undocumented, uncategorized template to {{tl|Noitalic}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:55, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Comment The difference between the two templates is that Noitalic uses a styling sheet, and Strip italics removes the apostrophes altogether. Techie3 (talk) 01:46, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

== [[Template:Vcite]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|Vcite}}

Subst: and delete: Following Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 June 13#Template:Vcite journal, this only produces a link to "Citation Style Vancouver". There's no reason for this to be templated, and since CS Vancouver templates have gone the way of the dodo, future use is rather pointless. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:49, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Sust and delete this wikilink to a historical page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

== [[Template:Life in Kurdistan]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|Life in Kurdistan}}

Misleading template wich it says it is about "Kurdistan" but if you click the misleading pipe links it goes to Kurdistan Region related pages. And not whole of Kurdistan if this template stays the name need be changed to Template:Life in Kurdistan Region, also the title page goes to a category page and not to a wiki main page.Shadow4dark (talk) 13:02, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:Is this serious? it seems the main issue here is that the word iraq isn't included, and there's discomfort with using Kurdistan on its own. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Life_in_Kurdistan&action=history edits Shadow4dark have made] to the template suggest a goal of narrowing its scope unnecessarily. In reality, this template clearly applies to all Kurdish regions of Kurdistan, not just the Kurdistan Region in iraq. If we follow this logic, should we also rename {{tl|Kurds}} to Southern Kurds or Northern Kurds? many of the topics included such as Kurdish culture, Kurdish music, Kurdish mythology, Kurdish language, Kurdish literature, Kurdish dance and Kurdish clothing, are shared across all parts of Kurdistan, not specific to one region or state. Some links currently point to articles related to the Kurdistan Region simply because content for other parts of Kurdistan has not yet been developed. For example, we have an article on Sport in Kurdistan Region, but there is no equivalent coverage yet for sports in other Kurdish regions. This reflects gaps in coverage, not the intended scope of the template. that should be clear enough.  Zemen  (talk) 13:33, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::One example, the Political parties links only including Iraq parties and not the Turkish , Iranian or Syrian parties. If we say it is life in Kurdistan the scope should be broader and not limited to Iraq only. Shadow4dark (talk) 13:38, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Fixed. is that really the core of the problem? It doesn't seem reasonable to rename the entire template based on a few links related to one region. please keep your national biases out of this discussion.  Zemen  (talk) 13:52, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Now Shadow4dark accusing me of violating WP:ASPERSIONS on the ANB simply for stating: "please keep your national biases out of this discussion." However, based on the nature of their edits to the template and their comments in this discussion, it appears that they are attempting to impose the perspective of one side over a neutral and inclusive approach.  Zemen  (talk) 15:26, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

: I must also say we have older and better template Template:Kurds wich covers whole Kurdistan. Currently both are overlapping each other. Shadow4dark (talk) 12:46, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

::Please consider it more carefully, {{tl|Kurds}} focuses specifically on the Kurdish people as an ethnic group, while {{tl|Life in Kurdistan}} relates to the geographic region of Kurdistan, which is home to multiple communities, not just Kurds.  Zemen  (talk) 14:23, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

:Only a handful of the links go to KRG pages and those are likely due to a lack of alternatives. The two templates may be a bit redundant, but could be fleshed out more and the articles developed. Overall, it looks like this template is more about the Kurdistan region, whereas the Kurds template is international. Metallurgist (talk) 08:43, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:Syrian civil war infobox]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|Syrian civil war infobox}}

This template doesn't seem necessary. Syrian civil war is the {{Plain link|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere?target=Template%3ASyrian+civil+war+infobox&namespace=&hidelinks=1&hideredirs=1&limit=50 only article}} that uses it. Furthermore, moving this template directly to the article would help with eliminating the duplicate references (see tagging on the Syrian civil war article), because a lot of these duplicate references (if not all  – I didn't check them all) are caused by this template being separate from the article. The problem is that the infobox and the article share several of the same sources, and I don't know of a way to use named references when the references are on different pages. I propose copying the template into the article and then deleting the template page, which won't be needed anymore. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) 01:59, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:Note: I wrapped the deletion template in tags. Was I not supposed to? 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) 02:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

:: Not generally, per WP:Templates for discussion/Noincluded tags. I'll let this one stand though because it's a purely technical change that doesn't really affect the article. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:26, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Merge and delete any reasonable rationale for having the a stand-alone version (size or rate of edits) has long since past. Cinderella157 (talk) 04:39, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Merge and delete per rationale. Slothwizard (talk) 08:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
  • We probably shouldn't literally WP:Merge and delete for reasons explained in that essay. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:26, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::You're right about that. Slothwizard (talk) 22:19, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

::Indeed, I actually didn't know about that essay. 🌳 Balsam Cottonwood (talk) 01:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

== [[Template:Country data Cabinda]] ==

  • {{Tfd links|Country data Cabinda}}

This template cannot use any parameters from its parent template as Cabinda does not have a provincial flag nor other provincial symbols, alternate names, etc. The flag previously displayed by this template is the flag of a particular separatist group, which is not used universally by Cabinda residents nor even Cabinda separatists. As such, it should be deleted. Yue🌙 01:40, 21 June 2025 (UTC)