Wikipedia talk:April Fools/April Fools' Day 2020

How to play: Look at the previously posted word, and add the first word you think of. For example:

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• made me think of: Foo —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 04:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• made me think of: Variables —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 04:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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I'll start:

• April! —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 04:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Chaos DrJosh999 (talk) 04:27, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Explosion Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Metagross. Invalid^OS_talk 04:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Disgusting. Koridas (Speak) 04:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Bins I cat tall the dark (talk) 04:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Bans. — J947 ^{(user | cont | ess)}, at 04:51, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Cans —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 04:52, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Pop Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Bang. — J947 ^{(user | cont | ess)}, at 05:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Bad. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 05:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Sad. –ToxiBoi! _(public) 05:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Depression Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Grey I cat tall the dark (talk) 05:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Blue —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 05:15, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Sky. — J947 ^{(user | cont | ess)}, at 05:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Clouds. I cat tall the dark (talk) 05:33, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Nimbus 2000 Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:36, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Thunderbolt >>BEANS X2t 05:42, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Shock. Koridas (Speak) 06:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• owowowowowowow! —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 06:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Mario. 73.168.5.183 (talk) 07:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Cart Sdkb (talk) 07:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Train All hail Armok (talk) 07:24, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Bus MadameButterflyKnife yeah sure.talk 11:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• School Khemehekis (talk) 12:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Vomit Jake The Great! | 📞 talk 12:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• green. I cat tall the dark (talk) 12:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• blue. Jcoolbro (talk) 13:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Hell Homeofthething (talk) 14:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• WP:AN/I –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 15:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• 1984 DrJosh999 (talk) 15:55, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Dictatorship JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 17:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Korea -MegaGoat ^{Contribs | April Fools Day 🤡} 17:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Kim. — J947 ^{(user | cont | ess)}, at 18:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Harry. ComplexRational (talk) 18:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Potter --Diriector_Doc┝^{Talk
  Contribs}━━━┥ 19:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Stoke-on-Trent 107.77.173.1 (talk) 21:33, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Hospital Spirit of Eagle (talk) 23:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Mobile Army Surgical Hospital — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeofthething (talk • contribs) 00:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Please take seriously

The bulleted list of joke AfDs (link) currently seems to be using the format of something like:

• Scots language is nominated for deletion.

The 'is' is also sometimes a 'was'. (?) I think that the correct word there should be has been, as it represents something ongoing which has started in the past. (Right?) I made that change in an edit. However, it was quickly reverted. Therefore, I have come to the talk page to prevent edit warrring. >>BEANS X2t 05:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

:I also suggest linking to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2020_April_1#April_Fools'_Day_nominations somewhere in the section for easy reference. >>BEANS X2t 06:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

There is a move discussion in progress on Wikipedia talk:April Fools/April Foools' Day 2020 which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 08:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I created a RfC on the Rules for Fools talk page for the edit warring and vandalism that has been occuring on the individual yearly April Fools documentation pages since 2017 and have gotten way too out of hand in the past two years. 107.77.173.61 (talk) 10:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --{{SUBST:replyto|Can I Log In}}^{PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply}(Talk) 16:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

tHis projeCt pAGe MaY MEET wikiPeDiA'S cRiteRIa fOR SPeEDY DELetion AS a pAGe ThAt Is PatENT NOnSense, CONSisTING pUrEly of iNcoheRenT TExT Or GIBBeRish wItH No meaNInGfuL coNTEnt OR HiSToRY --Sulfurboy (talk) 16:31, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

People are still continuing to vandalize this page, more protection is probs necessary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeofthething (talk • contribs) 17:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{thread retitled|Why specifically are you disallowing us editing that one section.}} This discussion has incoming links, so this was added to prevent those links from breaking. –ToxiBoi! ^(contribs) 21:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

We have made it pretty clear we will stop at 12:00 am April 2nd and we're just joking around with an edit war (Since it's April Fools and it seems to fit the guidelines). What's with the big deal now? Why are you trying to put a stop now instead of 5 hours ago? And how does this not fit the guidelines. We're just trying to have fun for just one day. OcelotCreeper (talk) 17:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Yea why can't we have some fun while we are couped up at home?JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, there are current boundaries I have, like the lyrics for thr rick astley song, since that is a copyright violation, and blanking of all of the other content. OcelotCreeper (talk) 18:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{u|OcelotCreeper}}, it is literally telling you at the top not to vandalize the page. Koridas (Speak) 18:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{u|Koridas}} 1. This was never an issue last year 2. Why stop us now this late into the day and not hours ago? 3. Its one header thats it. JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 18:05, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{u|JustAnotherWikiUser0816}}, let me rephrase something.

{{Quote|text=April Fool's Day is not an excuse for violating Wikipedia's policies and guidelines|author=The template right at the top}}

It doesn't matter if it wasn't the same last year. Rules change. They don't last forever. Koridas (Speak) 18:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{u|Koridas}} Still why stop us this late in the day? JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 18:09, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{u|JustAnotherWikiUser0816}}, I may be in a different time zone then you. it's only 10:00 where I am.

• It's already 6PM UTC there are only 6 hours left to mess around with the title.JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 18:13, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• :{{u|JustAnotherWikiUser0816}}, exactly. I'm glad we don't have to have the title messed up a whole bunch of times. Koridas (Speak) 18:15, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Wait as far as I can tell your the only one that is arguing against us, and your a 2 month old user , while many of us are much older than that (Not like that matters much but it is something to note.) JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 18:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• :{{u|JustAnotherWikiUser0816}}, Nice try, I am younger than you all, but I have more edits than you all. So I do have experience, even though I'm 2 months old. Koridas (Speak) 18:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• Yea but you aren't a mod or anything, your on the same level as all of us, so as of rn we outnumber you.... JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 18:19, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• :{{u|JustAnotherWikiUser0816}}, Neither are you. You aren't even extended-confirmed. Koridas (Speak) 18:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{u|Koridas}} There is a long-standing consensus that April Fools' Day jokes are allowed and a proposal to ban the Great Edit War this year[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Rules_for_Fools#Preventing_April_Fools_2020_from_getting_out_of_hand. failed to gain consensus]. I am going to respectfully request that you either allow April Fools to continue or that the admins take a formal action that adequately accounts for why this is such an emergency that WP:consensus has to be overruled. (Also, this is rather plainly not a real edit war but a community exercise in silliness.) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 18:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

How many edits do you currently have? Because in 2 weeks, I already had 350 edits. OcelotCreeper (talk) 18:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{ping|Kordias}} Hello? Are you going to leave us here unanswered? OcelotCreeper (talk) 18:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|OcelotCreeper}}, stop being so impatient, some guy kept on leaving messages on my talk pages. BTW I had 300 edits in the first week. I now almost have 15,000 edits and you don't even have 1000 edits. Koridas (Speak) 18:33, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

::{{u|Koridas}}, Please stop your nonsense. You're annoying others and it's getting in people's way. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 18:37, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

:::Also, Edits != Experience. Seriously. You're sounding very arrogant. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 18:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

::::{{u|Moonythedwarf}}, I like how you guys all get pissed off at me for trying to help the community, but now everyone's being a little bitch now even though I haven't done anything to them. Koridas (Speak) 18:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

{{ping|Koridas}}{{ping|Moonythedwarf}} Exactly. It could be the smallest 1000 edits are actually in a way harmful, and it could be that the edits one does are small, while others with less edits have more power technically because theirs are big edits. Not saying anything about your edit size, just that saying edits = experience makes you sound like the world revolves around you. OcelotCreeper (talk) 18:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|OcelotCreeper}}, Well it kind of does since I'm the only one who doesn't vandalize the page. Koridas (Speak) 18:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

• Ok I am actually about to get higher powers involved {{ping|Koridas}} seeing as you are attacking Eagle and acting very arrogant as if you were a mod. Please stop before you really screw up. JustAnotherWikiUser0816 (talk) 18:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
• :{{u|JustAnotherWikiUser0816}}, Go ahead, honestly I don't give a fuck what you do. Koridas (Speak) 18:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

• Interesting how World War I and World War II were followed by the United Nations, and now there is discussion of Great Edit War I and Great Edit War II being followed by "higher powers". LegendoftheGoldenAges85 (talk) 23:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Rephrased heading. –ToxiBoi! ^(contribs) 18:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Alright, as I promised, I will attempt to open discussion.

I've attempted to add this to the page twice:

{{hidden top}}

• User:ToxiBoi was skewed, warned, and participated in LTA in one day.
• User:ToxiBoi~pub is no longer the best squad and is established as a paid editor.
• In addition to that, their page was promptly fool-y protected due to COI issues on their user page (diff).
• Does me adding this sequence here count as COI?

{{hidden bottom}}

And each time I got reverted for vague reasons. (The first revert might've been a mistake, but I'm just plain confused about the second one). Could someone please help out and tell me why this content is unwelcome in the article? –ToxiBoi! ^(contribs) 18:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

:Pinging {{u|Koridas}} because they seem to still be active. JAWU0816 responded on their talk. –ToxiBoi! ^(contribs) 18:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

::{{u|ToxiBoi}}, If you vandalize, then no. Koridas (Speak) 18:33, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

::{{u|ToxiBoi}}, I've told them off. What you were doing is fine. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 18:37, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

The entire section that was being warred over on April fools day disappeared! WHAT Tanker4390 (talk) 00:03, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

nvm Tanker4390 (talk) 00:04, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

{{atop|Thanks for apologising for your behaviour, Closing as nothing else needs to be said. –Davey2010^Talk 14:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)}}

Guys, I am sorry for attacking some of you. I wasn't thinking correctly at the time and I've realized the huge mistake I made. I should of listened to what you guys were telling me. Although I may be banned soon, I hope this message will get to the people that I have shown overwhelming disrespect to, such as {{u|Moonythedwarf}}, {{u|JustAnotherWikiUser0816}}, {{u|OcelotCreeper}}, and {{u|Spirit of Eagle}}.

I've even felt more ashamed after reading Wikipedia:No personal attacks, Wikipedia:POINT, and Wikipedia:CONSENSUS. This finally made me realize that I was being hateful to the rules and guidelines.

Of course, I was just being stupid and making a fool of myself. I'm embarrassed of my behavior and I am aware the consequences that may happen to me. I was actually under a lot of stress earlier from two things currently happening in my life and a few things that just happened. I'm been very stressed out recently. It hasn't just happened on Wikipedia either, I've gone insane in real life too.

Sincerely, Koridas (Speak) 03:58, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Koridas}}, Thanks for the apology. All is forgiven. I'm not one to hold grudges as long as someone learned in the end :) Have you seen the WP:DISCORD? April Fools was being discussed there. I understand the stress issue especially. Things are nasty lately. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 04:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

:{{u|Koridas}} I'm seconding Braden N. here. I appreciate the apology and don't hold this against you in the slightest. Every editor has done something boneheaded during their time on Wikipedia, but not every editor has the maturity and self-reflection to recognize and apologize for it. I hope to see you around Wikipedia in the future. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

:{{ping|Koridas}} Thank you. Also seconding Braden, I understand. It's hard to not get caught up in the chaos, which may lead to one forgetting that policies exist. Just make sure to follow them in the future and everything will be fine. :) Invalid^OS_talk 12:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

{{abot}}

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| result = The proposal has been withdrawn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pythoncoder (talk • contribs) 15:16, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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I think that some bad humor may have to be deleted through CSD, but for some of them the criteria is quite ambiguous. Using G6 as "low-participation joke AfD" every time is not the best solution. On the other hand, bad humor may not be so bad to need G3/G10 deletion. I hereby propose a new criterion for speedy deletion:

I would appreciate any feedback. Cheeds, TLOM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 06:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

• Strong oppose. See WP:NEWCSD - criteria need to be objective, uncontestable, frequent and non-redundant. This proposal spectacularly fails the first two (literally every point is subjective) and completely fails the third if restricted to April Fools. There is also no evidence presented that there are any attempts at humour that should be speedily deleted that cannot be deleted under an existing criterion, particularly G1, G3 and/or G10 meaning it almost certainly fails the fourth requirement as well. Thryduulf (talk) 19:07, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
• Comment if this proposal is not withdrawn or speedily closed it should probably be moved to WT:CSD which is the correct place to discuss speedy deletion criteria. Thryduulf (talk) 19:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
• Support. We are not Uncyclopedia, and we don't need unfunny humor. Catgirllover4ever (talk) 19:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
• Comment: As stated above, this might not be neccessary. Instead, G6 exist because it's for uncontroverisal maintanence, so, if uncontroversial, then use G6. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 19:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

:*Can I Log In's - Technically G6 only works with some admins, Not all admins will delete it per that, G3 worked better with me but that was only because it was the same admin, G6 or G3 tend to be your best friends. –Davey2010^Talk 20:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. G3 and G6 already cover the vast majority of probable cases, and the abundance of eligible pages would be much lower the other 364 days of the year. Not enough demand to justify a new CSD just for this, and once again, what one admin considers "unfunny" could make another admin's day, so deletions under this criterion can't be objective. ComplexRational (talk) 20:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - Mainly because there looks to be an XFD ban but ComplexRational is correct G3 or G6 will work (both depends on the admin tho). –Davey2010^Talk 20:32, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per all. If the RfC to ban all joke XfDs passes G3 can take care of those; otherwise this is pointless and would probably be fraught with disputes. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose In addition to the previous concerns, I am worried that some editors will try applying these to old and safely archived April Fools' jokes. Given how subjective and prone to dispute the criteria are, I am worried that it will needlessly dredge up controversy. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:16, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
• Comment from nom I intended for this criterion to be used for terrible, disruptive jokes. In a nutshell, none of the jokes currently extant in the AFD log is eligible. There is pretty much consensus that BLP AFDs are leaning towards disruptive, as are political AFDs. Many of these aren't exactly good per G6 and most aren't in such bad faith to need G3. Thanks, TLOM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 05:50, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
• Whether a joke is "terrible" or not is subjective, and none of the other aspects you've mentioned are present in the criteria as proposed. CSD criteria must be very clear on what is and what is not covered. Thryduulf (talk) 10:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose, this isn't what CSD is for. >>BEANS X2t 09:23, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
• Comment - "unnapreciated" is particularly subjective; thus, it is innapropriate for a deletion criterion. — Godsy ^(TALK_CONT) 11:50, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
• Withdrawing suggestion. Thanks for all your feedback. Cheers, TLOM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 13:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

{{abot}}

File:Farm-Fresh eye.png You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Rules for Fools#RfC: April Fools' Day. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:09, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

The page says not to edit it so I won't do it directly, but I forgot to note this one username usurp request: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Changing_username/Usurpations&oldid=950283746#ToxiBoi~pub_→_ToxiBoi~pub] I was involved in that just recently closed. Honestly, I forgot about it until now... does it count as "Post-April 1st"?

{{small|I am commenting on an unusual device (Xbox), so I might make weird formatting changes or removals whilst editing. Feel free to revert if something is erronous and add my additions back in.}} –ToxiBoi! _(public) 01:35, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

• {{done}}. The header was so people didn't start pranking before April Fools' Day. Now that April Fools' Day is long gone, I took the header out so people can be bold and add pranks themselves. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 12:24, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

{{movedfrom|Wikipedia:April Fools/April Fools' Day 2020/The Great April Fools' Day Edit War of 2020}}

Awful, just Awful. TGEW2 Must never be forgotten. As a relic to humanity's mistakes

God, why? Why have you forsaken us?

• Comment: It shall forever be immortalized on Wikipedia for our future generations. :D

• It will not. 2019's was better. Invalid^OS_talk 00:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
• So does anyone have a moral for the last 24 hours? I feel like we should have learned something, but I'm drawing a blank. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 00:19, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
• Perhaps, Don't trust people self isolating on 4/1?
• Some of the links in the General Tomfoolery section are broken due to the GAFDEW2, could somebody help? ... (PorkchopGMX) (t - c)
• Also, should we have userboxes for this edit war too?
• Yeah
• An infobox would be great. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok I think that these could be the most logical choices:

• The winner “listen to living colour!==“
• Normal stuff, like General Tomfoolery and Other things and alternatives of those
• Any of User:TuxStrikesBack’s proposals
• Being honest and saying “Acts of Vandalism”
• Use Module:Random to randomly choose a title from the edit war.
• Alternatively, choose the best title from each time period and Module:Random them.

Obviously you can suggest something else, but I do not want this discussion to drag on for too long. Please say which one you want and also you can propose different titles. I won the GAFDEW II!! (PorkchopGMX) (t - c) 06:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

• The Foolery 2020 if there's another one coming in '21. (Cut the April Fools' AFD next year to focused on The Foolery, but keep it clean and simple) --7 successful entries. 5 failed. Not very great at jokes (#GenUnstoppableFoolery) 07:26, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
• The winner should choose Homeofthething (talk) 16:03, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
• Had a lot of fun yesterday guys. But yes, let the winner decide PeteStacman24 (talk) 16:25, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
• Let the winner decide. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Could somebody please close this thread and try to determine a consensus? I won the GAFDEW II!! (PorkchopGMX) (t - c) 01:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.