Wikipedia talk:Article alerts#Confused by change to Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon.2FArticle alerts

@Headbomb bot status shows as crashed. Mackensen (talk) 12:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:GTCmain has no documentation and no transclusions. Is it still used, if it was ever used? If it is no longer used, I plan to send it to TFD. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:24, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

:Seems like no one has written any doc. According to Wikipedia:Featured_and_good_topic_candidates/Nomination_procedure, GTCmain is used. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Amazon-class_frigate_(1795)&diff=prev&oldid=1237740223 Here] is an example of it being used recently. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 17:17, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

:{{replyto|Jonesey95}} Have you asked at Wikipedia talk:Featured topics, that being the talk page for Wikipedia:Good topics? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:02, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

::I had not, since the template's documentation says to post here, but I have done so now. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:52, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

:::The doc has a boilerplate message from Wikipedia:Article alerts/Bot use warning, which isn't intended to mean that this is the primary point of discussion, but that this page should be informed when a discussion occurs elsewhere concerning changes to the template. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

:Hi, saw your post at WP:FT; yes it is still used. Since HellKnowz already gave an example and reason, what else are you looking for? Its only used during an active GT nomination, of which there are sometimes many and sometimes none. Currently there are none (there's a supplementary nomination, but that's seperate). Aza24 (talk) 05:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

::Thanks for the responses. Some basic documentation would be helpful. What do the parameters do? A link to Wikipedia talk:Featured topics would apparently be helpful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Since October 17, alerts for vital articles have not been being added, which makes me suspect there is some bug/error. Does anyone know what's happening? Sdkb ^talk 18:25, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

::Something about vital-articles must have changed. See also User_talk:JL-Bot#Vital_articles_reports_empty

: Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

:It was likely this change based on the date. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

:It seems that there is no single category with all vital articles or a category with all articles in its subcategories. They are instead in sub-subcategories, i.e. :Category:Vital articles by level by quality has :Category:Level-1 vital articles by quality which has :Category:FA-Class level-1 vital articles, which has pages. And similar to other "top" categories. Unfortunately, the bot cannot do more than one level of subcategory parsing (which by itself is a workaround for projects that don't have a banner or place all their articles in a single category). To fix this, I would need to implement recursive category scanned, so I can't really fix this for now. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 19:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

::Courtesy pinging @MSGJ. Can we roll back whatever change has caused this until we address the issue? Sdkb ^talk 20:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

:::And is there a reason we can't just have an additional :Category:All Wikipedia vital articles with all pages? —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 21:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

::::According to the subscription list, the main VA alerts only goes down to level 3. Sdkb ^talk 21:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::I assume the main subscription at Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts wants all articles regardless of level? This is the problematic entry as far as I understand. Then there are 3 more subscriptions for levels 1, 2 and 3. I believe I can handle those with (1 level deep) subcategories, e.g. level 3 would use :Category:Level-3_vital_articles_by_quality and collect from the 7 subcategories. These are probably fixable straight away. But I believe you are the one who added these subscriptions? So I guess whatever list you need/want to be included. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 22:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::Article alerts for all five levels would be overwhelming, as there are 50,000 articles by level 5. I believe when I implemented it that level 3 created the right balance. Whatever functionality we had is the functionality that should be restored — it's on those who made breaking changes to figure out what was impacted and fix that. Sdkb ^talk 22:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::::But didn't :Category:Vital articles by quality have subcategories that directly in total contained all pages before? Was it intended only up to level 3? That is what Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts was subscribed to. Take for example [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vital_Articles/Article_alerts&oldid=1250738890 October 12] and Katy Perry - that's a level 5. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 23:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::::Perhaps I'm misremembering, then. It appears there were also multiple alert lists. Sdkb ^talk 18:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::Alerts are running again for Wikipedia:WikiProject Vital Articles/Article alerts (all), Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts (L3), Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/4/Article alerts (L4) and Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Article alerts (L5). I wonder if it would make sense to have Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts changed to Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/3/Article alerts for consistency? —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 10:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::::::Yes please, moving to /Level/3/ would be a good change. It obviously got missed when we created the landing page at the base page. Then perhaps the "all" list could move to Wikipedia:Vital articles/Article alerts? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

::::That would not be a problem to implement. Do you want it for all vital articles or just levels 1, 2 and 3? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::As far as I understand, just the category for all pages. But see clarification above in case I misunderstand. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 22:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::{{re|MSGJ}} Can you please undelete the :Category:All Wikipedia vital articles category and set it to be directly populated by all vital articles? —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 13:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::Yes. This will need a change to Module:Banner shell which I will do at next sync — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::{{done}} — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::::Thanks. —  HELLKNOWZ ∣ TALK 10:25, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

There is a discussion about adding do not remove text at Template_talk:Redirect_for_discussion#Can_%22do_not_remove_this_notice_before_the_discussion_is_closed%22_be_added?. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Are {{U|Hellknowz}} and {{u|Headbomb}} aware that AAlertBot has crashed? Nurg (talk) 10:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Nurg}} Yes, in general, it's just a matter of time of me waking up and noticing it. The bot runs at 4AM my time, so by noon it's normally noticed. If it's been more than 24 hours though, I might have forgotten to check though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)