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u7a4 did not found in Belgorod Oblast like the editor is saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltovo-Mayaki

A genetic study published in Nature in May 2018 examined three males of the Saltovo-Mayaki culture buried in Belgorod Oblast, Russia between ca. 700 AD and 900 AD.[3] The sample of Y-DNA extracted belonged to haplogroup R1.[4] The three samples of mtDNA extracted belonged to the haplogroups I, J1b4 and #Haplogroup U7|U7a4.[5]

The mtDNA that have been extracted from Belgorod Oblast belonged to haplogroups I (i4a) and D4m2 and not U7'U7a4.

Haplogroup mtDNA U5 been found among Saltovo-Mayaki but not in Belgorod Oblast.

I've recently been writing some articles about archaeological sites in Gaza. Tell es-Sakan is amongst the best documented. I've come across a possible slight contradiction and could use another pair of eyes to help me work it out.

According to [https://web.archive.org/web/20240623172348/https://library.biblicalarchaeology.org/book/the-new-encyclopedia-of-archaeological-excavations-in-the-holy-land/sakan-tell-es/ The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land],

:{{xt|Deep foundation trenches dug by large machinery for the construction of high-rise buildings revealed several layers of exceptionally well-preserved mud-brick architecture, together with an abundance of archaeological material dating exclusively to the Early Bronze Age, between c. 3300 and 2300 BCE. Tell es-Sakan is the only settlement of this period presently known in the Gaza Strip}}

The entry was written by the excavators, Pierre de Miroschedji and Moain Sadeq. So far so good, but Taur Ikhbeineh has been described as a Chalcolithic site and Early Bronze Age. [https://www.academia.edu/43433973 Oren & Yekutieli] say {{xt|In the light of the foregoing data we suggest that the EBI settlement at Taur Ikhbeineh should be dated 3400-3300 or 3250 BCE at the latest}}

Both settlements are in the Gaza Strip and have been described as Early Bronze Age. With Taur Ikhbeineh there may be some issue around terminology since the earlier part of the period is sometimes referred to as Chalcolithic. The respective authors are of course very familiar with the sites they are writing about. Since de Miroschedji & Sadeq wrote the later piece they should be aware of Taur Ikhbeineh, as would the editors of The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land so presumably none of them thought there was a contradiction. Perhaps when they wrote "the only settlement of this period" they meant the range of 3300 and 2300 BCE rather than the Early Bronze Age broadly construed?

Answers on a postcard... Richard Nevell (talk) 23:28, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

:I guess so? Taur Ikhbeineh is just EBI; Tell es-Sakan spans the whole EBA? I don't think these chronologies are super consistent. – Joe (talk) 13:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

::It might be something to handle with an explanatory footnote. Thank you, Richard Nevell (talk) 20:22, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

There seems to be no article for neolithicisation, though the word is used in a handful of articles in Wikipedia. I don't find any of those articles explaining what is meant by the term. Does anyone want to have a go at this? Whilst I believe I understand the term, I do not have the sources to put together an article on the subject. ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 23:29, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

:I'm not sure there would be enough there beyond a definition? In which case it might be better to redirect to Neolithic and/or add it to the glossary of archaeology. – Joe (talk) 13:22, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

:BTW, "neolithicization" is in hundreds of articles. Neolithic Revolution seems to cover the concept. I don't know that neolithicisation/neolithicization needs its own article. Perhaps something can be added to Neolithic Revolution. Donald Albury 13:28, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

::By way of clarification, I have seen the invention of the sail tentatively compared to that of the wheel, with both being linked to neolithicisation{{snd}}and for reasons more than just being very roughly contemporaneous. The reference is {{cite book |title=The global origins and development of seafaring |date=2010 |publisher=McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, University of Cambridge ; Distributed by Oxbow Books |location=Cambridge, UK : Oakville, CT |isbn=9781902937526}} pp 7, 11. The discussion is brief and relatively tentative. It seems that this might have a home in Neolithic Revolution. Perhaps Neolithicization and Neolithicisation should be redirects to there. ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 17:35, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property proposal/Archaeological site (Japan) ID, thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 07:05, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Growing up in the Ice Age: Fossil and Archaeological Evidence of the Lived Lives of Plio-Pleistocene Children.

Not sure what additional categories it may need. Doug Weller talk 18:48, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I've been browsing through archaeology stubs the last few days, doing some light cleanup work and the occasional reassessment. Since I've now touched a bunch of them, it seemed appropriate to give a heads-up here. If the changes I've been making have been off-base, please just let me know -- especially since I'm very much just an intrigued a layperson wrt archaeology. A sampling of articles I've worked on so far:

• Nuraghe Santu Antine
• Cleek–McCabe site
• Ras Mkumbuu Ruins
• Clogherbog
• Pahargarh caves
• Epigraphia Indica
• Achilleion (Thessaly)
• Flagstones Enclosure
• Elgin Pillar
• Peinan Site Park
• Benaiah inscription
• Drummacoorin
• Ngườm
• Rath Meave
• Yellowberries Copse
• Fafai Beach Site
• Watling Temple
• Hell Gap complex
• Snabrough broch
• Bulayïq
• Callanish X

Anyway, just wanted to confirm whether this work is a net positive and I'm not getting in the way or causing anyone else extra work cleaning up afterward. -- Avocado (talk) 16:52, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

:{{Reply to|Avocado}} Looks like really good work to me! Thank you Avocado. My only real comment would be that when adding headers it's best to avoid using & or capital letters for regular words [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nuraghe%20Santu%20Antine&diff=prev&oldid=1279976153 like you did in the first article].★Trekker (talk) 10:58, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

::Got it -- I'll be more careful about that in the future. Thank you for the feedback! -- Avocado (talk) 13:04, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm trying to understand something and haven't yest found someone who can help -- maybe here I can?

Supposedly, wood from 1890 was used to set the standard for radiocarbon age, as explained in Calculation of radiocarbon dates and for example in the references [https://lup.lub.lu.se/search/files/5555659/2173661.pdf A guide to radiocarbon units and calculations] and [https://scarf.scot/thematic/scarf-science-panel-report/1-chronology/1-2-radiocarbon-dating/ this] from the Scottish Archaeological Research Framework. So wood from 1890 should have a radiocarbon age of 60. But according to [https://web.archive.org/web/20200928001655/http://www.intcal.org/curves/intcal20.14c this calibration curve] (based on [https://repository.arizona.edu/handle/10150/655368 this article]), it's 110. Why? Eric Kvaalen (talk) 10:13, 10 March 2025 (UTC) (Please Ping me if you reply.) Eric Kvaalen (talk) 16:07, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

I have nominated Angkor Wat for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 16:06, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Stefan Milo just uploaded [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWUXQKUMuc an interesting video] on some mysterious Bronze Age artifacts - which don't have an enwiki article. these tablets are associated with the Únětice culture and the dewiki article is at de:Brotlaibidol ... sawyer * any/all * talk 01:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kozhikode#Requested move 30 March 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 02:10, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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There is a discussion about the origin of battlefield archaeology that may be of interest to members of this project here. Hog Farm _Talk 00:22, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:Imagine my horror at realising I'm at least partly responsible for the situation as I created a two sentence section the best part of a decade ago. Thanks for raising the issue, Hog Farm. What's probably needed is more information to give a rounded summary, or at least more information on the context to make it clear that England isn't the beginning and end point, and pruning some of the detail that is currently there. Richard Nevell (talk) 18:21, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:: I'll try to get around to looking through the battlefield archaeology literature that I have to see if there's some good background material, but it's mostly USA-focused and a lot of it is about the Little Bighorn study so I don't know how much luck I'll have. 01:55, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

See Talk:Neanderthal#Recent_edit. There has been a discussion about when Neanderthals originated, which is at somewhat of an impasse and could use outside input. Obviously the Middle Paleolithic is not the usual fare here, but I hope this notification helps lead to a resolution. Many thanks. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)