Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation#British Royal Air Force

File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:TAM Airlines Flight 3054 § Summary in infobox, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:32, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Mangalore International Airport#Requested move 27 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 12:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I would like to cite a book by Stanley Stewart on a page. He has written some books such as Air Disasters and Emergency: Crisis in the Cockpit in which he gave an analysis on some plane crashes with some pages like that of British Airways Flight 009 citing his books. Stewart was credited as a British Airways Captain in Episode 1 of plane crash documentary called Survival in the Sky and as an Aviation Author in an episode of Mayday titled "Blow Out". His books were published by Crowood Press which is not listed on WP:RSP and barely referenced in secondary sources. Therefore, sourcing his books cannot be accomplished at the moment. Krios101 (talk) 00:11, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Krios101}} When a source is absent from WP:RSP (as book authors and publishers generally are), you should use the WP:RS guideline to assess its reliability. You can also look through WP:RSN to see if the source has been discussed before, and you can ask for feedback there if you're still not sure. I don't know much about Stewart and haven't read any of his books, so I'm not sure I can be of much more help than to point you in the right direction. - ZLEA _T\^C 04:32, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{re|Krios101}} Stewart meets WP:RS. Mjroots (talk) 11:50, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:Leaning unreliable. His works appears to be self-published and I don't see any evidence pointing to him being a reliable source. He was a pilot who published many books but there's nothing indicating that he's a subject-matter expert in the field. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:09, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

::I don't believe Crowood Press is a self-publisher. He is, in fact, a WP:RS. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:56, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Air Disasters is used as a source in British European Airways Flight 548 with 15 citations, these were not questioned during the two FAC nominations. Physically checking the book just now there is a two-page bibliography relating to the more serious accidents, it includes HMSO reports, HMSO is Her (His) Majesty's Stationery Office, the UK government printer for official reports. It doesn't state that he used those sources or whether they are for the reader to check but he went to the trouble of listing them. Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 17:55, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:::But is Crowood Press an established and reliable publisher? And even if it were, I don’t see how the reliability is transferred to the book and author themselves. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 18:33, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

::::My copy of Air Disasters was published by The Promotional Reprint Company in 1994 (ISBN 1 85648 182 4). It states "first published 1986 by Ian Allan". That should be sufficient to establish that Stewart is a reliable author. Mjroots (talk) 15:11, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

There is an important discussion regarding which summary should we include in the Air France Flight 447 article's infobox. The discussion can be found at Talk:Air France Flight 447#Infobox Summary: Electric Boogaloo. Input from project members would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:09, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I recently reverted two additions from {{user|FM WIKI 2016}} on the topic of mathematics (inappropriate, low-quality articles that appear to be the work of that editor). I notice that the same user has edited Kutta condition to add what appears to be several self-citations. I don't know this topic well enough to adjudicate but I suspect they are not suitable for inclusion in the article. Could someone take a look at this? - CRGreathouse (t | c) 18:02, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:You made a mistake. You have reverted two correct items from the number theory. By the way, my main expertise is thermofluids. My kutta condition method is well-known and correct. You cannot see an engineer be good in number theory. Your page also shows that you are expert in: Mathematics, Economics,Computer Science, Quantum, Physics, Politics, etc. FM WIKI 2016 (talk) 20:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

::I encourage FM WIKI 2016 to review WP:SELFCITE and WP:SCHOLARSHIP. - ZLEA _T\^C 22:00, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Thanks. But what I added to WP was a new conjecture and was completely relevant and correct. Anybody with a computer can verify the accuracy of my conjectures. Some people are selfish and do not allow others to add very interesting formulations to WP pages. The expressions I added are new, understandable and easy to derive; so I cannot understand why they are removed. Let the number theory community decide. FM WIKI 2016 (talk) 01:45, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. As far as I can tell, your paper has not been peer reviewed and has not been covered by reliable secondary sources. Therefore, it is probably unsuitable for use on Wikipedia at this time. - ZLEA _T\^C 01:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::Thanks. But, it is completely correct. FM WIKI 2016 (talk) 11:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::Wikipedia is not the judge of that, we just wait for those who are to say so. - ZLEA _T\^C 13:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Wikipedia also expressly forbids original research. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Members of this board may be interested in Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#United_Airlines_Fleet_website this discussion at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. Canterbury Tail talk 19:05, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello. Does anybody here have access to World airline accident summary : accidents occurring to aeroplanes of more than 5700 kg maximum weight. 1974–1996 by the Civil Aviation Authority (United Kingdom)? Using the linked ISBN that's cited at 1985 Bakhtar Afghan Airlines Antonov An-26 shootdown, I'm only able to find one search result from [https://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0903083442 Google Books] where the title reads World Airline Accident Summary: 1946 to 1975 inclusive with no mention of accidents from 1976 to 1996. Would it also be possible to know whether or not the UK CAA Document CAA 429 World Airline Accident Summary is available to anyone? Both of these references are linked in numbers articles, but with no corresponding URL, verifying the cited information is difficult. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:37, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2025 Potomac River mid-air collision#Requested move 26 May 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

An editor has been repeatedly removing sourced content from Shenyang J-35 based on WP:OR. More eyes on this would be much appreciated. - ZLEA _T\^C 06:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)