Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline#flagicons in infobox

I don't think it is useful to lead the section title with "Notable", which is a universal Wiki requirement, thus not needing to be scattered everywhere. I would prefer to title this section simply "Residents". Blainster (talk) 19:40, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

:While you are correct that the section should be limited to notable people, not explicitly stating that makes it less obvious, especially to those less familiar with our practices. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:07, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

:"Residents" isn't better, because that word implies the person currently lives in the community. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 05:52, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

A few minor disagreements have arisen between User:Buaidh of Colorado and User:Sbmeirow of Kansas concerning Colorado communities. We would like your comments.

1. "statutory town", "home rule city", and similar terms should not be capitalized in the intro of community articles. –User:Sbmeirow Home Rule City and Statutory Town are legal terms in Colorado. –User Buaidh
2. You are spamming far too much state stuff in the "see also" and "external links" sections of community articles. State-only information should be the state article, not in every community article. –User:Sbmeirow Colorado has extensive state lists which contain additional useful information. See the List of Colorado-related lists and Aurora, Colorado#See also. –User Buaidh
3. The "subdivision_name2" county field in the infobox should not include the word "County" on the right side. –User:Sbmeirow Colorado has no smaller subdivisions than county so I think the word County may help. –User Buaidh
4. "United States" in the infobox and intro should not be wiki-linked. –User:Sbmeirow I agree. –User Buaidh
5. The right side of "postal_code_type" field should be "ZIP Code", both words in uppercase, per the article title. –User:Sbmeirow I agree. –User Buaidh

Thanks,  Buaidh  talk e-mail 15:04, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

:Regarding #2 - agree, too many "see also" links. Magnolia677 (talk) 15:11, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

: 1 - wikipedia isn't a legal document or contract, nor should it be worded to sound like a legal contract either. This is why we should use the common name "Aurora" instead of "City of Aurora" in its article. Even though this is about upper/lower case, I would argue that both should be simplified further to the common terms "town" and "city", because every day normal people don't use "statutory town" or "home rule city" when talking about communities in Colorado, and even the U.S. Census Bureau uses the shortened terms too, per [https://web.archive.org/web/20141020110606/https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/pdfs/GARM/Ch9GARM.pdf this document].

: 2 - "Aurora, Colorado#See also" isn't a valid reason to keep it, instead you need to compare against a majority of community articles across 50 states. The entire point of this WP:USCITY guideline is to strive to make all community articles have a similar look and similar way of doing things.

: 3 - the word "County" is not included in the template examples at Template:Infobox_settlement#Examples, also it isn't included most city articles in other states.

: • Sbmeirow • Talk • 13:18, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

:Comments:

:1) whether it is a statutory term matters little with regards to capitalization. We do not capitalize "city" or "village" in the many such articles where these are statutory for those jurisdictions.

:2) Way too many low value see also links. It might be possible to find a way top stuff them into one of the already used templates or navboxes.

:3) I'm inclined to agree with Sbmeirow on this. The count(ies) can be mentioned in the intro sentences as usual for most other US places.

:older ≠ wiser 17:07, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

File:Pope Leo XIV childhood home.jpg

Several editors have added Pope Leo XIV to the lead of Dolton, Illinois, his childhood home.

My experience is that famous people aren't generally added to the lead of city articles.

Update...a photo of his house it there now too.

Your input at Talk:Dolton, Illinois#add Pope Leo XIV to the lede? would be appreciated. --Magnolia677 (talk) 16:38, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I've been struggling for a while to clean up Kilgore, Texas, where an editor outright does not support the US Cities guidelines. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kilgore,_Texas&curid=151198&diff=1296651316&oldid=1296591994 This] is one example. Help from an experienced editor would be appreciated! --Magnolia677 (talk) 10:22, 21 June 2025 (UTC)