Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#soccer-europe.com images

Hello here, excuse-me, despite discusions [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_169#h-Repeated_edits-20250415135300 here] and at articles talk page, he has done it again almost the same edit, please somebody intervene and explain him... 217.21.153.82 (talk) 11:41, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

:Both of you need to stop your edit-warring. I have placed warnings on both your user talk pages. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 12:24, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

::I only didn't noticed that, I only did a total revert, thanks for collaborations 217.21.153.82 (talk) 16:17, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello again. Following consensus reached with previous disputing user, now another dispute it's happening with an ip user: he pretends that Serbia national football team couldn't take to account stats. of former Yugoslavia national football team. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Albania_national_football_team&action=history edit history]. 217.21.153.82 (talk) 11:20, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

Despite the tag marking this as a historical, this is still being cited in discussions as if it still existed. I therefore propose that we comment out (i.e. ) the entire content and just leave the tag. If people then want to see what the guideline used to look like, they can edit the page to show it. Geschichte (talk) 05:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

:Will this make any difference to people citing it? Hiding it seems to be a bad idea: if you want to move it create a subpage and link to it, or just remove outright. Spike 'em (talk) 08:23, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

::It is too easy to skip the {{notice}} box. To strikeout 1–4, "Teams that have...", "England: Clubs that...", and the two first under league notability may help the reader. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:41, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

This stub for a soccer stadium has been unsourced for over 15 years. The only other language article has a dead link for its only source. Please add reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 14:24, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:This article may as well be deleted. Ewyourfaceew (talk) 16:47, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

::Agreed. Non-potable stadium that was home to a 4th tier semi-pro side. RedPatch (talk) 17:32, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:Did find [https://www.newspapers.com/article/el-paso-times-patriots-in-action/172139224/ a source] for its first match, but it's a short blurb. Could just be merged into a new section in the El Paso Patriots article, since the stadium was not nearly as big as claimed in the article. SounderBruce 05:49, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

I have been waiting on my review for my creation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cesar_Ruvalcaba for over a month, I understand the wait time, but it seems a new article Cesar Ruvalcaba has been created in the meantime. I feel as if our two articles can be merged, if possible, as I feel my current draft is more fleshed-out. Thanks! Ewyourfaceew (talk) 18:51, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:User:GiantSnowman has helped me in the past with this. RedPatch (talk) 13:53, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{done}}. GiantSnowman 17:30, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, last April somebody created an article about this club - FC Zeta Milano - founded by some YouTuber which plays in Terza Categoria - the lowest tier of Italian football. It is definitely non-notable on footballing terms, but I would like to ask if you think it could be on WP:GNG terms. Thanks, Angelo (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Several articles, for instance IFK Mariehamn and SC Freiburg II, list players with the flag of and abbreviation for Åland. I had changed that to the flag of Finland, because that is the country that Åland is part of, and that is the national team that these players would first qualify for. The Åland team is not recognised by UEFA or FIFA. We don't list players for Catalonia or Île-de-France or Sicily either, we list them as Spanish/French/Italian players. My edits have been reverted "per consensus". Which is fine by me if that is the consensus, but I haven't been able to find any discussion about this in these archives, let alone a consensus. So I'm raising it here. What is the consensus? 93.117.220.196 (talk) 09:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{re|Coolguy22468}} reverted 93.117.220.196, so they should be able to explain their changes. Robby.is.on (talk) 09:47, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::It was agreed Template talk:Football squad start#Request for Comment on Nationalities that players from dependent/self-governing territories should use thir local flag even if they aren't a FIFA member. C. 22468 Talk to me 11:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::::I don't want to take anything away from the merits of the arguments (and your position certainly has merits, don't get me wrong), but that was basically a discussion between two users on the talk page of a template. Does that constitute a discussion and a consensus? 93.117.220.196 (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::That was the consensus reached. If you think there may be a better option feel free to open a new request for comment. C. 22468 Talk to me 12:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::::I can't see a clear consensus reached: I certainly can't see that an uninvolved person closed the RfC. There is a comment from another editor (The Gnome) that seems to be unresolved. You and GiantSnowman seemed to come to an agreement, but there are others involved. Spike 'em (talk) 13:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::As I say if you think there should be another RfC please raise one. C. 22468 Talk to me 13:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::That RFC did not have a formal close from an uninvolved User to say whether there's a consensus or not, so should not be using used as a binding consensus. Notwithstanding the fact that it had minimal participation and this WikiProject wasn't involved or notified, and there hadn't been a WP:RFCBEFORE discussion. That being said, having this discussion and trying to get a proper consensus is much more sensible. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:59, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Realistically I think the best option would be to only use FIFA recognised associations as otherwise it causes dispute. C. 22468 Talk to me 14:06, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::::I also agree that FIFA nations should be used I.e. Finland flag not Aland flag and similar for other non-FIFA areas like Catalunya. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::The main issue was the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man which although part of England for footballing purposes they are not part of England or the United Kingdom politically. C. 22468 Talk to me 21:54, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Would it be an option to leave out the flags in case of doubt, perhaps with a footnote? I understand the issue with Guernsey, Jersey and the Isle of Man. The islands are not part of a country but are not fully sovereign either, they have their own league system and do not have an official national team. The difference with Åland is that those clubs are part of the Finnish league system and the Football Association of Finland, and players from the islands represent Finland, like Daniel Sjölund and Annica Sjölund. I would say that players from Åland would count as Finnish, until the islands get an official national team, like for instance the Faroe Islands. 93.117.220.196 (talk) 09:30, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:The Isle of Man and Channel Islands are in footballing terms the same as Aland in that they are explicitly part the English FA and clubs from the islands play in the leagues of England (FC Isle of Man, Guernsey FC and Jersey Bulls FC playing in England) but there is also a minor leauge on the islands. Players from the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands have previously represented England at football. C. 22468 Talk to me 10:49, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Any Ipswich Town fans out there? Just spend several hours arranging this article, and i think it's pretty much neat and organised now (not perfect, by all means!). Just one thing to clear now, as far as i'm concerned:

his competitive totals at said club, the ref i found (this one https://footiehound.com/top-10-best-ipswich-town-players-of-all-time/) says it's 241 games, but Soccerway "gives" the subject 242. Can anyone spot the discrepancy please (or maybe the aforementioned source is not correct?)?

Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 18:27, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

• Seems to be 243 appearances, just added a source for this (editing anon). Many thanks to all involved in improving the article stat-wise (or another department), especially {{ping|J Mo 101}}! --RevampedEditor (talk) 16:07, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Fandi Ahmad has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 02:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

This might just be me overthinking it, but I thought I'd talk about it anyway to clear up any confusion. Over the last few days I've had a lot of time on my hands and I've been checking talk pages and bringing eligible pages up from stub to either start or higher. I've gone through quite a few, and I noticed that English and Spanish stubs were removed from the Category:Stub-Class articles (or maybe it was just removed for me)

Tl dr: I've been destubbing talk pages and that's why so many stubs have gone down. I am not vandalizing and I have been checking properly using the page size tool. Thanks, RossEvans19 (talk) 17:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)