Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships#Follow the fleet

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Athena (yacht) I'm ambivalent about this one. Thought I'd pass it along for other opinions. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:18, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

:Perhaps more importantly, this of the same date: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyperion (yacht) - Davidships (talk) 13:17, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ferry Fiasco (Scotland)#Requested move 21 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 16:21, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Can I get an admin to watch this new user's activities? He's been making changes to the pre-war Japanese aircraft carrier articles, most of which are at FA, without citing them properly. I've reverted him once already and am about to do it again because he ignored my request to take things to the talk pages as per BRD. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:14, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:It looks like he's starting to revert his changes, which is a good sign. I'd still like an admin to be overwatching things in case they get contentious.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:17, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::Now I think that he's blown 3RR on Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:41, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Not quite 3RR, but definitely EW. Warned and protected the page. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi. I've noticed that User:Nafis Fuad Ayon has been going around adding/changing the ship type in Template:Infobox ship characteristics for VLS-equipped submarines to "Nuclear-powered attack submarine with VLS-launched cruise missile capability". This would be "going overboard" (per Template:Infobox_ship_begin/Usage_guide#Infobox_ship_characteristics), right?

I would also not that Nafis Fuad Ayon was really intent on creating an article for this sort of thing (Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/VLS-equipped_multipurpose_attack_submarine) so this sort of reclassification may be extending to other articles. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 02:49, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Addendum: A section for such subs was added to Attack submarine after the article creation ran into trouble. Not sure whether this "fabricated distinction" (as it was put in the AFD) requires such prominence in that article, or its own (orphaned) category (:Category:VLS-equipped attack submarines) for that matter. - RovingPersonalityConstruct (talk, contribs) 03:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:I agree that this counts as being way too detailed. Maybe guided missile attack submarine would be a better category, as VLS is very oddly specific. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 04:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::I thought we'd shut that down with the AFD? If not then Nafis Fuad Ayon' edits need to be reverted Mztourist (talk) 04:31, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I thought the same thing. I'm also not convinced that we need guided missile attack submarine, either. And as far as I'm concerned this highlights one of the many problems with Wikipedia's reliance on categories instead of things like tags, but that's a different conversation. Intothatdarkness 13:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::::It's less the reliance on categories and some people determined to push things that don't exist. SSGNs exist and are classified as such. "Guided missile attack submarines" do not (and every attack submarine can fire guided missiles, Harpoon comes in containers that fit torpedo tubes). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:33, 23 April 2025 (UTC)