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:{{ping|Codename Noreste}} Got it, thanks so much for that. Knitsey (talk) 23:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

::why was i reported JoeQuackMama (talk) 18:13, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

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File:Stop hand nuvola.svg This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Knitsey&curid=71661905&diff=1259547410&oldid=1253685168 This] is inexcusable. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

:Holy crap SFR. Heart attack city for a second there. But you're right, technically I should be blocked. I did apologise to her though. And she had an extra treat and tummy tickle. I'm worried it might happen again, now that it's in my head :( Knitsey (talk) 19:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

::Don't let it happen, further violations of our Biographies of Living Pups policy will be dealt with strictly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

:::BLP will never have the same meaning again lol. That made me smile. Knitsey (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

::::That photo! Water PupperDoggo! Love it. I got mine one of those sandpit plastic containers for kids. It took her all sumer to get used to it but loved it in the end. My previous doggo loved the water. Knitsey (talk) 19:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::That is one of the two or three times she got in the pool. She loves water as long as it didn't come out of a hose or a faucet. She'll swim anywhere, as long as it'll make her smell worse than when she got in. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::She must lab/part lab? Mine used to love stinky stuff. Especially loved to roll in badger crap. Knitsey (talk) 20:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::::We think she's a lab/hound mix, or possibly hound/great Dane. No way to know, though, since she's a rescue. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

::::::::She is gorgeous, not so much maybe when she stinks. Knitsey (talk) 21:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

:::::::::The new BLP policy: Biography of Living Pets! Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 18:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

::::::::::here you go. Enjoy! Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 21:58, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::::OMG I love it lol. That's made my day week year! Knitsey (talk) 12:15, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

{{The Original Barnstar|Thank you so much for dealing with the legal threats on harassment on my talk page. I have sadly been unable to be on here as much as I want to be as of late, so to see other editors stick up for me when I am being attacked makes me feel valued here. I can't thank you enough. JeffSpaceman (talk) 14:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)}}

:You're welcome! Thank you so much for the barnstar. It must be frustrating to be a target like that. Hopefully they will tire of it soon. Knitsey (talk) 17:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

:Many thanks @Abishe Knitsey (talk) 23:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Tell me about em--sounds like a fun club. Drmies (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

:I had to go looking for the original, it's a while since I looked at the LTA page AND I didn't realise there was such an extensive spi page...Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Caidin-Johnson. I can put your name on the list if you want to join. Knitsey (talk) 17:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

::Nah I'm good but I appreciate the offer. Since November 2014--sheesh. Drmies (talk) 21:13, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

:::I'm not convinced it's the same person. It could be someone piggybacking. Knitsey (talk) 21:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for entertaining me this morning, and if I ever sound grumpy, it's because, uh, I often am. Numpty is a new word for me, thanks for that. You may also find, if you're foolish enough to pay attention to my edits, that I have so many pet peeves I have difficulty finding room for all of them in my house. Just color me fussy.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

:*Colour. (I will get me coat)

:Knitsey (talk) 17:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Dear Knitsey, I would like to request an update to the Bathgate Academy wiki page. The current head teacher listed is no longer in position. Please update the page to reflect that Stacey Cowan is now the head teacher of Bathgate Academy. Thank you for making this change. Best regards, John Fleming John FlemingBA (talk) 23:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

:@John FlemingBA hi, thanks for messaging me. The problem is, we need a reference. If you don't have one, then I'm sure the Head Teachers message on the school website will change next term? Another editor removed the head teacher name as it was causing problems with vandals. You can always return once the head teachers message has been updated, or, we have something else we can refer to? Was there anything in the local newspaper?

:As you can see from the article history, the article had to be protected because of vandalism, at the very same time you registered your previous account. Coincidences happen, but we do insist on a reference for the change.

:Let me know what references you come up with? Was it announced on the school twitter account? Knitsey (talk) 16:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

I’m not trying to continue any arguments, I’m just wondering what aspersions I cast on what editors. I was angry and just saying stuff and I dont actually hate anyone or mean to attack anyone. Doopliss 👻 (she) | Creepy Steeple 🏚️ 01:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

:And you act like men having complete and utter control of women for centuries is “natural” and “normal” and something I have to learn to cope with. This was never even mentioned. It's not wise to either assume nor misrepresent other editors.

:Would you rather have predators unzip their pants to a 9 year old girl because of the way she’s described? But of course, I can’t stop you guys from reverting my edits This is a ridiculous assumption to make.

:It’s literally not working, if you look in the respective articles. Women in red hasn’t made a dent in the amount of women articles. Because women are too busy being pressured to marry and have kids to edit on Wikipedia There are a lot of editors, regardless of their gender, who are working towards the goals of women in red. You've just insulted every single one of them. There are a lot of editors who have fought hard to get the project up and running, a lot of them are women.

:Because men don’t care about how we feel unless we say it to their face. What an assumption to make!

:Thanks but I’m on mobile. If I started a discussion with every single man who’s added sexist content to Wikipedia I would spend all day being on talk pages Wikipedia is a collaborative project. If you do not have the time to put in to certain areas of the encyclopedia then change how you edit. Stick to small changes in spelling and grammar. You need to spend time on subjects and talk to editors if you want to change the meaning of articles or make sweeping assumptions.

:I get how frustrating it can be. I was the 4th woman to do my job in the UK. (I'm not blowing my own trumpet)

:I faced a decade of comments along the lines of 'you're taking the job of a man'.

:There is still a lot of work to do as far as misogyny is concerned. Its getting better, it's getting easier (believe me).

:Try not to be so reactive, you obviously have a lot to offer this project. But do try not to make assumptions. Practices like reading a comment from an editor twice then try not to make sweeping generalisations.

:Tldr: As far as articles are concerned, my advice would be think about why they are sometimes written in a certain way. The edit you removed? Did it never occur to you that the editor was highlighting the sexism? Try not to make assumptions. You wouldn't know because you made assumptions and didn't discuss it with the editor. Accept that centuries of sexism is not going to be reversed overnight. Do what you can to change things, when you can.

:Hope this helps. Knitsey (talk) 01:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

::to me it just seems like things are only getting worse and haven’t gotten better at all in centuries. I am well aware that I engage in a lot of blank and white thinking and make

::dramatic accusations and assumptions. I just see this stuff so often that it’s easier to assume it’s everyone. And that edit was distressing for me to read. It’s obviously not gonna do anything. Doopliss 👻 (she) | Creepy Steeple 🏚️ 04:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

:::All I can advise you to do is think about whether editing Wikipedia is for you. There are a lot of people here who will try to help you with editing, if you want. There are also people here who wouldn't be bothered. That's life. If editing is making you so upset then maybe now isn't the right time. You can always come back to editing at a later date when you feel more able. Knitsey (talk) 14:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

::::but when is that later date going to be? there isn’t much i can do anymore, on or off-wiki that doesn’t stress me out. i need something to do and ive only gotten worse over the years Doopliss 👻 (she) | Creepy Steeple 🏚️ 19:25, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::Then all I can recommend is you seek professional help. I'm not a fan of 'Wikipedia isn't therapy', but I suggest you step away for a while. You're always welcome to come back. But you do need to seek from outside of the Internet. Knitsey (talk) 04:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::i mean, i did fine today on the wiki. i have a psychiatrist and im going to start anti-anxiety meds soon, but it doesn’t seem like it’s going to be enough Doopliss 👻 (she) | Creepy Steeple 🏚️ 05:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Well, you never know, it might turn out to be helpful. If you're enjoying Wikipedia then you can always look for a project you might be interested in? Some of the links here might give you some ideas? Knitsey (talk) 05:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:You're very welcome @Cooldudeseven7, and thanks for the barnstar. Knitsey (talk) 15:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

::No problem! Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 15:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

thanks for helping me during my episode Doopliss (she) 👻 | Creepy Steeple 🏚️ 21:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:@TTYDDoopliss you're welcome and thanks for the tasty cookies!

:If you get stuck/run into a probelm when editing Wikipedia, there are lots of people who can help. Good luck with editing. Knitsey (talk) 21:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I recently made an edit to a page with a source from Instagram. This was being used to provide evidence of a romantic relationship in order to add someone to a list of LGBTQ ice hockey players. I did so in accordance to other pages in this list adding sources from Instagram, so I am confused as to how mine is different. This is my first time adding to Wikipedia, so I'd appreciate some insight:) Apolloam (talk) 22:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:@Apolloam I think it was a cite error. Can you post it here for me to look at? Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

::Do you mean post the citation or the article? The article is Johanna Fällman and the citation was {{Cite web |title=Instagram |url=https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmHHjy_Kbq7/?igsh=MXNqMnluMDN5NXpkZg== |access-date=January 7, 2025 |website=www.instagram.com}}.

::I copied the format used on a similar citation, citation 19, on Shiann Darkangelo since I wasn't sure how to go about formatting and the like. Apolloam (talk) 22:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:::@Apolloam That is coming up with cite error but it's saying 'not a available in your country' which might just be a UK problem. It seems more and more common these days.

:::I'm also not sure of the status of social media used as a reference for this.

:::Any talk page stalkers/watchers that can help with this? I can't open the link. Knitsey (talk) 22:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

::::Well, if I was using my brain, yes, those look like two lesbians in a relationship, and it sure is an anniversary for them. For future reference, I would look at the citation on Todd Edwards#Personal_life, where it talks about him being in a relationship with a man, the first of the two citations is an Instagram post about his guy. BarntToust 23:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::Yeah, it came up as cite error at first, then 'not available in your country' which I seem to be getting a few times lately, that's why I needed someone else to check. Thanks for doing that, you're a star. Knitsey (talk) 23:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::Oh, absolutely. There are a few caveats to using a self-published source in the article, and Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Presumption_in_favor_of_privacy can explain better than I. There's unfortunately no way to verify the gender of this person's relationship given the post and the person's profile not including any pronouns, and we can't name the person that the hockey player is dating for respect of their privacy. I'm sorry to rain on the parade of the LGBTQ endeavour, but that's the deal with content concerning people who aren't notable, especially this sort of stuff in self-published sources. BarntToust 23:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

:::::::No, that's fine, thank you! I'm not on Insta but the links usually work ok for me. It is so annoying. My sister is coming over in a few days so I'm going to have a play to makr sure it's not a connection/provider issue. Knitsey (talk) 23:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Hope you find a way to fix the internet troubles, and enjoy the visit with your sister. See ya around, maybe! BarntToust 23:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Thanks for your reply. It was very interesting. I got interested in this topic after buying a vase in Portland Oregon that is one of the Japanese Gouda vases. There are some more charming photos on Etsy of Japanese Gouda. Firelightpeony

Firelightpeony (talk) 14:27, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

:Thank you for the lovely kitteh! I have collected a few pieces of period pottery in the past. A friends mum gave me some Meissen figurines and two Herend bon bon baskets. They were lovely pieces although not really my taste. It got me started. I love Carlton Ware pieces and have a few. Mostly, I can't afford the real stuff these days but Japan does make some beautiful pieces that are classed as 'in the style of'. Looking at their Gouda style pieces, you can at least add a zero to the price for vintage Gouda. They don't generally try to pass them off as original and most factories hand paint their pieces. I think the difference (apart from age and origin) is, original Gouda style pottery was poured liquid clay/slip casting (I think). Knitsey (talk) 15:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

::@Firelightpeony Knitsey (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

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Great catch at List of Garfield characters - God only knows how long "Jeff Bazos" was there. Have a wonderful weekend!

Jellyfish (mobile) (talk) 03:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

:The only time that it's suitable to say let's get rid of Jeff Bezos.

:Thanks for the fox, I have urban foxes visit my garden for the food I leave out. Knitsey (talk) 13:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I noticed you recently left a final/only warning at User talk:Amruthashub for spam links. I do not think this was appropriate and it seems like WP:BITING to me - the editor in question had just registered and has only made three edits, all to the same article and the spam link added was not that egregious (it was at least somewhat relevant to the article). I think a level 1 warning would have been more appropriate to encourage them to learn Wikipedia policies and try to retain them as an editor. Giving them a final/only warning is only going to discourage them from editing Wikipedia, I feel. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 13:59, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @Adam Black, thanks for your thoughtful message. There is some disagreement about levels of warnings for spammers. Generally, it used to be a single warning, although not everyone uses it. I think some clarification might be needed maybe? Some editors who patrol recent changes don't issue any warnings and to straight to AIV. I prefer to give a warning initially. Knitsey (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

::I take your point, but as the article also already had a collection of inappropriate external links (thanks for removing those too) I still think the much softer {{uw-spam1}} would have been more appropriate in this case. Egregious violations of the external links policy should be met with {{uw-spam4im}} but I don't think it was warranted here. For context: Amruthashub is one of my mentees and this was the first time one of them has received a warning, which is why I took a look into it. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 14:24, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

:::I can deffinitely see your point about the numerous existing spam links, so I will take that into consideration in future.

:::This is in no way a tit-for-tat suggestion. The abusive message left by the IP that you very kindly reverted, should be reported straight to AIV. If someone (ip or user) just posts a message saying 'shut up' then an escalation of warnings are appropriate, I would have left the ip a level 4 warning then reported to AIV for harrassment. I'm used to such messages but would report to AIV (same with serious BLP violations). I'm not going to report them in this instance as they're likely to do it again at some point and someone will report them. But thank you so much for reverting it! Knitsey (talk) 14:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

::::I think I agree with you that I should have issued a stronger level 4 warning, but I'm not sure about it going straight to AIV. After all it says at the top of the page the user must have first been sufficiently warned, and I see admins refusing requests at AIV regularly for this reason. I also thought, while it should be immediately removed, that it wasn't that egregious compared to other personal attacks and harassment campaigns I've seen here and elsewhere although I'm maybe a little desensitised - my day job involves cleaning up vile comments significantly worse than anything I've seen posted on Wikipedia. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 15:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

:::::Urgh, I feel for you.

:::::AIV can be awkward to navigate sometimes. When it comes to hate speech then they would probably be blocked. I say probably as, with life, Wikipedia will always come up with an exception. There is low tolerance for such things, so skipping the chain of warnings shouldn't be an issue. It's the same for racist language, always go straight to AIV with the reasoning and you can always add a request for rev/del consideration. The only reason I leave a warning when it's hate speech is exactly because there will always be an exception to the rule. Plus, admins are human too and sometimes can misread something resulting in a 'not sufficiently warned' message. You can always message the admin and ask if they would mind explaining the no block. Knitsey (talk) 15:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

:I can come across quite blunt and matter-of-fact sometimes. I've taken a brief look through your contributions and just wanted to show that I appreciate your efforts at tackling vandalism and spam and the above comments shouldn't detract from that. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 15:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

::Aww thank you so much. You were perfectly polite. I truly do not mind at all when people question what I have done. I welcome it as I frequently come across things that I wasn't even aware of. I still consider myself one leg up from noob lol. Knitsey (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

:::You're welcome. I've been here a little longer than you, but without as many edits, and I think of myself as just slightly above noob status too. You were perfectly polite too, some people get very defensive when you question their actions in any way. Adam Black ^{talk • contribs} 15:36, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

::::Wasn't it Pope who said "to err is human" etc. I'm just glad that most of my errors have been minor and nobody is paying too much attention to me otherwise I might end up with more people questioning my editing. Shhhuuush, don't tell anyone that. Knitsey (talk) 15:46, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

i recently added to the the " Pikey" page which you removed for not citing source .

I am Romani, of Kalé / Sinti Blood, the reference is my own People and Language ... I can give you a quote for a Hindi dictionary but that is all.

With Respect, I feel that to remove my submission because it does not have an academic reference, when it is based in the Oral History of the actual People mentioned in the Article goes against the Ethos of Wikipediaa WayneAD55 (talk) 12:28, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:Hello there @WayneAD55. Thank you for reaching out.

:I've taken another look at your edit and I think it does need a reference. The reason is, the etymology section states circa 1520. The English didn't land in India until the very end of the 16th century and then formed the English East India Trading Company which was chartered in 1600,

:It is entirely possible that 'word of mouth' from , say, Portuguese travellers would account for the term Pikey', it would need some type of reference to account for an uncommon word from before the documented use in 1520. I hope this helps. Knitsey (talk) 12:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

::Can I also ask, you seem to have created and are using two account? The above account and {{u|W Danewood}}. I will pop a message on both your accounts to explain why two accounts, unless for legitimate reasons, are not allowed on Wikipedia. Knitsey (talk) 12:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:::i created one years ago ,but thought it had been deleted ...which is why I created a new acvount WayneAD55 (talk) 12:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

::::I have left you a message. It might be worth putting a note on the other account about when and why you intend to use it. I have a second account that I only use when on an insecure WiFi connection, (mainly when I was in hospital) I think I've only used it twice? I have a note on my user page so that people know it's a legit account.

::::If you reply, I suggest we do it on your talk page for this account? The convo will all be in one place then. Knitsey (talk) 13:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

::the Word has been in use in the Romani Languages for over a thousand years and is still used in india in the Hindi language,and is related to the Period of time that the Romani spent in the Indus Valley .

::https://dict.hinkhoj.com/phiki-meaning-in-hindi.words

::The Romani are first mentioned in Europe in the 1400s ..

::Aside from that, having read the entire article I see that someone has written a line about outcast pikeys with the reference

::{{cite book |first=Manfri Frederick |last=Wood |title=In the life of a Romany gypsy |location=London |publisher=Routledge & Kegan Paul |date=1973 |isbn=0-7100-7595-2}}

::I find the citation method difficult to understand WayneAD55 (talk) 13:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:::I've replied on your talk page with an apology about me getting the dates wrong. I apologise here as well for that. Knitsey (talk) 13:20, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

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i was creating a test user page using my own name and you flagged it, how do i delete. I'm a 5th grader trying to learn about citing sources on internet Infinyte42 (talk) 20:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:An Admin will take a look at it eventually. Maybe put a message on your talk page asking for your user page deleting? Knitsey (talk) 20:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Please review his edits from today and take appropriate action. Thank you. 216.168.91.75 (talk) 01:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

. 119.73.99.248 (talk) 17:59, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:I'm a volunteer, like nearly everyone else here. Is there something I can help you with? Knitsey (talk) 18:19, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello Knitsey,

Long time, no "speak"! Regarding recent edits of mine which may have got in your way, not quite sure what happened, but I obviously put my foot in it somehow and then got me whatsits in a twist trying to sort it out. Hope you weren't bothered... and if you were, sorry! Keep up the good work! Technopat (talk) 18:30, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:Hello @Technopat, how are you doing? Are you still enjoying the sunshine?

:Does your message have something to do with the spammer? Knitsey (talk) 18:34, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

::Well, that got messy! Looks like it's gonna be one o' those evenings! In answer to your last question, yes. But now I'm intrigued by your cryptic "sunshine" question... --Technopat (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:::Well if you know, you know. OR I got you mixed up with someone else lol. Just ignore me, brain fart moment. Knitsey (talk) 18:44, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

::::The TV complaint spammer is an LTA. Although you probably already knew that. Knitsey (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::Sigh! This gets crypticker and crypticker (sic). While I'm well aware of the term "brain fog", as in my permanent stae of mind, that there "brain fart" of yours is a new one on me... (oh! you young 'uns, always coming up wiv new figures o' speech). Does "brain burp" exist? If not, I claim it. ("Hiccoughs/hiccups" have been around for yonks, of course.) Which brings me to that double-whammer of yours: LTA...? Yer "lol" I can cope with, but that one went waaaay over my head! Baffled, bemused and befuddled regards, --Technopat (talk) 20:00, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::Baffled, bemused and befuddled - bbb, my life most of the time.

::::::I think Brain mishaps go in this order, worse to even worserer.

::::::Brain Hiccup

::::::Brian burp

::::::Brain fart. Knitsey (talk) 20:05, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Hey- based on your latest edit(s), I think you've noticed something up. Only just saw it (if I had seen it earlier, I would've reverted it before you added the speedy deletion template), but for a quick explanation, it's just more trouble from Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Zjholder / Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zjholder. It looks like the account has already been globally locked, but thank you for looking out for vandalism, though. Magitroopa (talk) 23:23, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

:Honestly, I CSD without looking properly, I hadn't realised it was your sandbox. Thats me being naughty. I only noticed after, when I thought 'I know that name' lol.

:I will leave it in future. Thanks for the heads up. It make it easier when reporting them early at AIV, to add a case link. Thank you! Knitsey (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

::No worries whatsoever. And even further thanks, as just quickly looking at some of your recent edits, I saw a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:BMB&diff=prev&oldid=1281685039 revert of yours] on Wikipedia:BMB... another frequent socker, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Agustin Sepulveda Venegas 2004 Fan. Magitroopa (talk) 23:49, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

:::I saw a few of the previous edits but didn't see any sock tags so I wasn't sure which was the pupeteer. I will add them to my list as well. Thank you! Knitsey (talk) 23:53, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

{{The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar|For helping deal with the vandalism on my talk page while I was unable to. Thank you! JeffSpaceman (talk) 00:11, 22 March 2025 (UTC)}}

:I am so sorry you've been targetted recently. It must be so annoying for you. I try to keep the little twerps away. Thank you for the barnstar! Knitsey (talk) 00:15, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for your kind words. I think, given my status as an openly queer editor, I am bound to be a target for harassment on here by vandals. I try not to let it bother me -- I do hope deep down that it will subside sooner or later, though. Once again, thanks so much for your help, it is highly appreciated. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:16, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

I just follow your lead, Knitsey. Drmies (talk) 03:36, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

:You're a true gent @Drmies. I always try to send a thanks, not because I like seeing editors blocked, just because it must be a bit repetitive dishing out blocks. Knitsey (talk) 03:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

::Well, first of all I appreciate it, and second, I appreciate it extra because I also don't actually like to block. Take care Knitsey, Drmies (talk) 13:02, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

Good grief, your user pages get a lot of it! If there's ever anything you want doing, admin- or otherwise, do please let me know.

I don't know how you put up with it, and I sure don't know why you should have to. :( DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

:Hi there @DoubleGrazing. I mainly deal with vandalism so I end up with, shall we say, a lot of disgruntled people that land here. Most of it doesn't bother me. I occasionally ask for rev/del. I prefere to leave it unprotected if I can because I do get some genuine questions. Ponyo kindly protected it recently due to threats, which was welcome.

:There are some lovely page watchers (thank you all) who catch some of it and revet. Most of it goes over my head but I forget that other people have to read the guff if they are reverting. That bothers me most, that other editors end up reading it. Knitsey (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the report at WP:UAA but please note that some wikis allow organisation accounts - see Commons policy for an example, the German wiki is another. Except for the most offensive usernames, please don't report users at WP:UAA if they haven't edited on this wiki. Cabayi (talk) 06:43, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:I've just worked out which one this is referring to. I'm not linking as I don't want people to know I'm an idiot. Although, in fairness, anyone who names a coin, bomb, needs some PR training. Knitsey (talk) 11:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:Give them a bit of leeway, they are new, they are mostly doing a great job so far. We see a lot of vandalism, especially on user talk pages, so we sometimes get protective. Keep up the good work! Knitsey (talk) 03:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your contributions. I note that you've been investigating possible sockpuppetry involving this user.

Should a proper SPI be created? User:Hahayes234, User:WarkzFN, User:Roblox584929, User:Quzok, and User:Emir122tr all appear to be related. 162 etc. (talk) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:I'm really not sure. I know it has been going on for a while at the ABCya article. I didn't realise until just now that 'they' have ventured out to Mary Ann Shadd. It looks to go back to 15th March, although there is an account before that who messed with the article. I'm half tempted to say yes BUT they might like that? A lot seem to thrive on being a known sock puppet. What do you think? Knitsey (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

::It does make it easier to identify and block future socks down the road. {{ping|Pickersgill-Cunliffe}} 162 etc. (talk) 21:44, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:::That is a reason why I like having them there, it also makes it easier to just add an SPI link to AIV reports rather than hunting down past edits and editors. It is easy to add them to an SPI then report endless links every time. But then, I'm just lazy lol.Knitsey (talk) 21:48, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

So....if you drop half a biscuit in your tea, do you fish it out and continue drinking the tea? Or toss it and get a fresh cup? Joyous! Noise! 00:52, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:It's always disappointing to see an esteemed admin go down the pan. HOW THE HECK DO YOU FISH OUT A MELTED BISCUIT FROM A CUPPA? Knitsey (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::Sieve Joyous! Noise! 01:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::Or...do you just leave it in there and keep drinking? Joyous! Noise! 01:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Honestly, I give it a few minutes to settle then keep drinking. Wasting a good cuppa isn't really on. The birds enjoy the dregs. Knitsey (talk) 01:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::::I stir in lemon curd instead of sugar. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::Sweet baby jebus on a bike. Get off my talk page. Lemon curd? We all know Americans don't own kettles. Knitsey (talk) 01:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::Mackays has em, which they use to make lemon curd in "small batches", they say. Also, not American--yet. Drmies (talk) 01:33, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I'm so sorry, I thought you were American! I take back the kettle comment. Knitsey (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::::i have a kettle Joyous! Noise! 01:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::That makes you part British then. Knitsey (talk) 01:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::::I was joking about drinking it with the glob at the bottom. You're willing to risk drinking sodden crumbs? I...I thought you were a different kind of person. Joyous! Noise! 01:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::As long as you're careful, the biscuit stays sunk. Even the dog frowned at me when she heard the little 'plink'. She knows a wasted biscuit is a no-no. Knitsey (talk) 01:28, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::That's a dog for you. I have a cup of tea right now and I'm pretending there's a cookie at the bottom, and I nearly gagged. I have some texture issues with food. (somebody out there is twitching to hit us with a "this isn't supposed to be a social media forum" message.) Joyous! Noise! 01:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I was thinking we are going to get told off soon. I'm still getting over the lemon curd thing. We should leave it there. Knitsey (talk) 01:33, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:Now that sounds just right. Give me all of the caffeine and the sweet stuff, yummy. Thank you @DoubleGrazing. Knitsey (talk) 13:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi there. Saw your comments on Salemsaken's talkpage. My understanding is that hijacking also applies to redirects. Where did you learn that it did not? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:47, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @Onel5969, I had a discussion with another admin as I wasn't sure what to do with them. It was suggested that it is allowed.

:Regardless, I should have gone with the Welcome message first, rather than jumping in to the warning, even if I turns out not to be allowed. Knitsey (talk) 00:51, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::Okay, the essay, WP:HIJACK/A, suggests that it also includes redirects, but does not give an example which corresponds to this type of instance. However, I think that when there is a long standing redirect, if there is an article with the same/similar name, a new article should be created, with a disambiguator, in this case (art historian) would be appropriate. Then either hatnotes on both pages, or turn the redirect into a dab page. There doesn't seem to be a direct policy on this. But to me that makes sense. you never know how many pages link to the existing redirect (in this case I think it's only 1). Thoughts? And maybe you could ask the other admin you were discussing this with? Onel5969 ^{TT me} 01:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I've run into this before although it was with an LTA that hijacked articles and someimes redirects. Although they were creating an article for a singer, the articles were unsourced/poorly sourced. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Japansonglove. Obviously, the case yesterday was different, they weren't a sock. I should have refamiliarised myself with Wikipedia:Article hijack. I would say that it could do with some further input on that policy, including creating another redirect to replace the one recently used?

:::I've also come across redirect pages that were articles, but deleted through AfD. I've kind of followed the lead of other admins on reversing those with an edit summary about the recent AfD.

I would appreciate some input on this although

I think for now, apart from the socks, I should leave redirects alone until there is more guidance lol. No more oopsies. Knitsey (talk) 01:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)