Disciple: If they don’t have regard for vaidhi bhakti (regulated devotion )and go directly to raga-nuga,(spontaneous devotion) isn’t this something like sahajiyism?
Srila Sridhara Maharaj: Worse than sahajiyism. Sahajiyism formerly accepts everything, but they want easy entrance to do only what comes naturally without work, and they don’t admit the necessity for formal devotion. They are lazy in their practice, preferring the enjoying mood to the serving mood, but service means sacrifice. So the atmosphere is dangerous and any theistic awakening we should mark with all attention and care so that we may not go down again to the depths of nescience. Very carefully we shall try to collect our wealth. Real progress towards the Infinite gives the idea, “That I am nothing, I am in great danger.” Progress towards the Infinite is like that. “Thinking I have it, I am above.” This is a foolish feeling , foolish statement. The very nature of advancement is that, “I am low, I am undone, I am the most helpless.” The closer we are the further away we will feel, whereas the further away we actually are from divinity, we may complacently feel we are close. As much as we come into the relativity of the Infinite, we cannot but conceive ourselves to be the lowest of the low. That is the criteria.
The very sign of real progress will show I am nothing, I am the most needy, the most wretched and the most helpless. The negative aspect must be improved to attract the positive. If one point of the negative will say, “I am positive” then immediately it will be rejected, you are under the false control of maya. Rather to think, “I am the meanest of the mean,” that will attract the attention of the high. This is the science of devotion proper.
When I first came here to Nabadwip, one boy used to dress as a woman. He would tell, “Oh, I have seen Krishna and I have shown so many.” When he came to me, I said, “No, no, no. We know a little of what is Krishna and how to see Him, also who can see Him. Some knowledge we have gathered from different scriptures and saints.” So I related some of it. Then he persisted, “I have shown Krishna on the branch of this tamarind tree, so many have witnessed that.” I said, “In spite of your statement that you have shown Krishna to so many, I disregard that.” Summarily this is all bogus. “Why are you cheating yourself”? I asked. “You are cheating the public and yourself, so be careful of that.” Then after some months that man came back to me and said, “What you say is all true.” SSM
http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/28049-mirabai-gaudiya-tradition.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.133.99.30 (talk) 21:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:I appreciate that you have a deep knowledge of Hinduism, but posting this on my talk page won't accomplish much. Please let me know if you have any questions about editing Wikipedia. Sheeana Talk 21:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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:Maybe I can try to briefly sum this up. Wikipedia is an encyclopdia. It is meant to give neutral, factual, broad, and accurate information about a topic. It is not for promoting a viewpoint, a religious perspective, or any subject beyond giving the plain facts. The above sections of text, and what you were previously adding to articles, are religious viewpoints that belong on your own websites, but not on Wikipedia. Copying and pasting, even from sources which are factual rather than opinion, is never permitted here. Furthermore, attack on various other viewpoints, such as atheists and "materialists" (as you mention above) is not permitted. This is meant to be a collaborative, open, and welcoming environment, and adding negative opinions about others will not be seeing in a positive light. Honestly, I think you need to read a lot more about Wikipedia before trying to contribute again here. Your edits have been religious, opinion, copyright violations, and at times outright attacks. If you want help on positive contributions, people will be happy to assist you. If you continue to promote your own religious viewpoint and violate our policies, you will find that your edits will be reverted and you will be blocked again. Thank you for your understanding. Sheeana Talk 06:55, 5 July 2010 (UTC)