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You might find this a little interesting

  • Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User_is_threatening_to_report_me_for_simply_adding_relevant_Wikiproject_tag_to_talk_page
  • Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies#Imane_Khelif
  • Talk:Imane_Khelif#WikiProject_LGBT_studies Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
  • :You are correct, I just read that whole thread and then spent half of the subsequent shower winning a talk page argument against a couple of shampoo bottles. Honestly, I think Wikipedia talk pages are high in the running for the worst possible communication medium on the planet -- maybe "smoke signal" and "message in a bottle" are worse. You can't show people non-CC-licensed images, you can't link to sources if someone thinks the website is bad, you can't categorize the articles in any scheme that has the potential to bother anyone. It's hardly surprising that for twenty years people have been running entire parallel communities on IRC and Discord and Slack and mailing lists: talk pages are borderline unusable. jp×g🗯️ 22:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
  • ::Also any comment you make (even if you edit it a couple minutes later) is perpetually preserved in amber so that if you get in an unrelated argument with anybody over any subject for the rest of your life they can link to the time you were having a bad day in 2003 and called some guy an assclown as irrefutable evidence of longrunning conduct issues jp×g🗯️ 22:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Boo

Is there a way to un-thank for an edit? AviationFreak💬 19:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|AviationFreak}} I thought this one was for the one that makes the pretentious New Yorker {{tny|dieresis}} dots on stuff that I also made today. Oh well!!!! jp×g🗯️ 03:02, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of [[:Template:Newyorkerize]]

File:Ambox warning blue.svg:Template:Newyorkerize has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Svampesky (talk) 03:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Svampesky}} Are you aware that the diæresis is a part of the English language? This seems like either an issue with providing metadata in the template or improving accessibility software -- not really a thing that can be fixed at TfD. jp×g🗯️ 04:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

::To be fair, I didn't realize I was nominating it for deletion on a page called 'Templates for discussion'. I thought it functioned to pool editors in one place, especially as templates are more technical. The section header {{tq|Nomination for deletion of Template:Newyorkerize}} was a template. I hope the {{tq|"mods on the Wikimedia discord server"}} don't find out about this! Svampesky (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

::I erroneously filed it thinking it was a place to pool editors and discuss. How do I withdraw it and move the discussion to the talk page? Svampesky (talk) 16:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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[[Talk:Environmental impact of aviation]]

During what I assume was a script error when moving Environmental effects of aviation, it seems the talk pages have turned into a redirect loop with no significant history under either. Was the actual page potentially accidentally deleted at Talk:Environmental impactEnvironmental effects of aviation without being moved? or has it ended up somewhere else? Aidan9382 (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

:It looks like JPxG tried moving the pages back, but only moved the articles (not the talk pages), before they deleted both, as you've guessed, yeah. This was posted at WP:ANI#Environmental impact of bitcoin and appears to have been fixed. – 2804:F1...F5:208E (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

It appears your script run broke dozen of talk pages

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See WP:ANI#Environmental impact of bitcoin. Another admin is looking into restoring the broken deleted pages.

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Ramsdell

Hi there, the article has been restored per consensus at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 July 27. Will leave you to remove the CCI template if that's OK? Daniel (talk) 04:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

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Quarry

I've finished my report for the Signpost and I'm adding finishing touches. I joined Quarry, but I'm unsure how to run a query. I need to find the longest-running move discussion based on time duration. What would be the code for that? Svampesky (talk) 11:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

:Maybe JPxG has more detailed advice here, but generally speaking WP:QUARRY is always a good place to ask this kind of question. Regards, HaeB (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

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Two articles in the signpost still have the draft template

Hey,

I just noticed these two Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/In focus and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Opinion still have the draft template at the top, but the newsletter has already gone out to people, so just wanted to let you know :) Raladic (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Lots of fiddling with two of your user pages

I hope by this point that you trust my intentions, because I sure had to fiddle with User talk:JPxG/index and related pages a bunch to get the combination of {{tl|database report}}, Linter, and my tribe of Linter-obsessed gnomes to align around the formatting of those pages. I had to hack the table format a bit, so now you have a table within a table (not ideal, but it works). I hope that you don't mind, and sorry for the notifications. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

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Signpost essay column

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I reworked this from WikiProject Orphanage. This could be placed on the newsroom talk page. Someone presses it five times, and then by a poll on the newsroom talk page to decide which essay to include in the next issue, to encourage readers to improve it. Svampesky (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

:It might be a bad idea to direct people to edit vital policy-based essays, so some could have a hatnote 'Essay for improvement'. Svampesky (talk) 18:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Pistol emoji

Thanks for catching the unintentional synthesis, but what mistake did I actually make [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pistol_emoji&curid=69608167&diff=1241814596&oldid=1241625210 here]? It was intended to summarise the body so I may have been misled by existing errors later in the article. Belbury (talk) 08:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

:If you'd asked me a few months ago what the deal was with the pistol emoji, I would have said "it used to be a gun and then some time in the late 2010s a bunch of websites changed it to be a water gun", but when I actually looked into it for this article it turned out the reality was much more complicated and weird. The thing everyone went with was that it got changed everywhere, because this made for an easy story, but half of the vendors never changed anything, and even among the ones who did it was kind of an awkwardly inconsistent back-and-forth changeover. It's kind of interesting, because Elon Musk and all the people who hate Elon Musk seem to agree that everyone had a water gun until he unilaterally decided Twitter should go back to a handgun, but this does not seem to actually be borne out by anything other than that one article from the [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-29/gun-emoji-replaced-with-toy-water-pistol-across-platforms/9708406 one abc.net article] which seems to have gotten its header image from a Facebook page(?). jp×g🗯️ 09:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

::That header image does seem to be backed up by what I'm seeing in the sources, that Microsoft adopted the water pistol years ago but caved to cross-platform compatibility and made it a gun, then all the main platforms changed it to a water pistol in 2018.

::I'll see if I can pull together enough sources to recreate a sourced timeline table in the article.

::What's your view on the article drawing a link between the 2018 changes and {{tq|the Parkland high school shooting and subsequent mass demonstrations against gun violence}}, a recent addition which is still in the article body? From what I can see this is an observation that some press sources made, and it seems like a reasonable one, but the actual platform announcements seem deliberately vague and anodyne about there being any social reason behind the change. Belbury (talk) 09:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

:::Yeah, the closest the article gets is to say "the move away from the graphic of the weapon to a toy comes after mass demonstrations by students in the United States and globally, demanding tighter gun control laws". It seems pretty plausible to me.

:::On the subject of unciteable original research otherwise left on teh cutting room floor, my friend found [https://web.archive.org/web/20160224172639/http://www.disarmtheiphone.com/ this public relations campaign from 2016] which was apparently demanding Apple remove the glyph on a specific, explicit basis that

::::{{tq|We realized that many Americans unknowingly carry a gun with them every day. The one that was given to them without a background check: the gun emoji. We ask that you stand with the American people and remove the gun emoji from all your products as a symbolic gesture to limit gun accessibility. We understand taking the emoji out will not end gun violence, but this act will show Congress that gun-owning and non-owning Americans have come together to demand required background checks for ALL gun sales.}}

:::The funnier outcome, in my opinion (note I've stolen this joke), would have been to cryptographically implement background checks for the gun emoji. jp×g🗯️ 08:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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:{{ping|Smallbones}} No email on the road but will respond when I get home. jp×g🗯️ 05:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

::Thanks for letting me know. Take care of yourself and be safe! Smallbones(smalltalk) 11:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Care needed

In [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FHannah_Clover&diff=1242334707&oldid=1242317563 this edit] you accidentally removed another editor's comment. Please take more care. I've reinstated it. Thanks. PamD 10:00, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

:I had the edit window open for a while so I refreshed it to load the newest revision prior to submitting the comment. How the hell did it load the thing I had before and then overwrite the subsequent revision? jp×g🗯️ 18:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

::The whole way it copes with edit conflicts these days is very confusing - it's terribly easy to get in a muddle! These things happen. PamD 19:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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About the Signpost's next issue

Hello! Sorry for bothering you, I just wanted to say that I'm currently copy-editing the "Serendipity" article: I should be done in less than 10 minutes! Oltrepier (talk) 13:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

:Ok, we should be ready now! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 13:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the "Editing to the Beat" event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Lehman College. This is the second event of the series, following the inaugural event at Civic Hall in July. Led by a 9-person live band demonstrating Caribbean and Latin musical genres, we'll engage with efforts such as WikiProject Latin Music, and will encourage editing on both English and Spanish Wikipedia. All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend. Registration via [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikicurious-editing-to-the-beat-tickets-1009115641047 Eventbrite] is required for building entry, and is also encouraged on the event page on Meta.

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If you have received the email please let me know. Ditto if you haven't received the email. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Smallbones}} Got it, will respond tonight. jp×g🗯️ 16:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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Your August 2024 Environmental effects vs. impact moves

Hi. I am seriously disputing these moves, and would like you to start an RM for them instead. Ultimately, I might start an RM to move all "impact" titles to "effect", but I think that it is more appropriate that the relatively longstanding "effects" titles be allowed to remain and undergo a discussion from that name. A fuller rationale to oppose your bold moves and the list of moved articles is in the declined RMTR request: Special:PermanentLink/1277357049#Requests to revert undiscussed moves. Cheers —Alalch E. 05:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Alalch E.}} I am absolutely certain that the importance of the issue does not warrant this. I did discuss the move — the general impression I got was that nobody cared either way, and moreover that it was kind of a pointless thing to ask about. I don't know why you've decided it was "undiscussed", or why you have asserted that so aggressively. I am aware of the existence of the RM process. I do not think that every pagemove requires an RM. Do you? The situation, at the time, was that a few dozen pages existed with titles of this sort, with some being called "Environmental impact of ____" and some being called "Environmental effects of ____". Personally, if you asked me, I would say that "effect" is probably more neutral than "impact", but at any rate, none of the articles I looked at seemed to even slightly distinguish between the two. It was not intended to be a political gesture. I hope you understand this. It was emphatically not the case that hydraulic mining and CFCs were one way, and bamboo sporks were the other. There was no detectable political or editorial valence to whether any article used one or the other. If you think that they should be the other way, then fine; I do not actually care, and moved the pages solely for the sake of having the titles be consistent. jp×g🗯️ 21:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

::I appreciate your reply. I assure you that I don't think that the action was in your mind anything other than a minor on-balance improvement for the sake of consistency and not any kind of statement or gesture. I really get how you feel about the importance of this, and I'm sorry if you're a little bothered about my bringing it up. It's not for me to say, but you may be especially busy, which may make this issue feel even less important. But it can be easily resolved; it is because of that that I'm writing. I think that they should be the other way, yeah. These dozen-ish titles aren't a big deal but it isn't a tiny deal for me either, because I was, on occasion, thinking about starting a discussion to move away from this usage of impact in titles and having some living examples of the better alternative might help. About "undiscussed", that wasn't meant to have a negative connotation. I saw an AN section (iirc) while searching for a related discussion, but it was about the seeming glitch, and not about the naming as naming (is that the discussion?). I'm very pro bold moves. That actually reinforces instead of weakens my opposition to this mass move because some or most (didn't recheck) of the "effects" titles were from moves done years back, and they were done for sound and not-insignificant editorial reasons. There is an editorial valence and even a mild langvar implication. You basically overrode those bold moves which have solidified with these more superficially-grounded bold moves relating to consistency. Despite "liking" bold moves, I do not think that bold mass moves just for the sake of consistency--when something not provenly uncontroversial--are good. Not to go overlong: I see that you would not start an RM because you do not even favor "impact" over "effects" in general. In this situation it's better to let things be a tiny bit inconsistent as they were and see where things could develop from there. Sincerely —Alalch E. 05:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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You may want to note the essay Wikipedia:AJR (the edit filter blocks the long name), which answers one of your recent questions about admin recall. 217.180.228.171 (talk) 15:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Broke?

See here (and elsewhere). Vysotsky (talk) 23:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

:Broken, by someone. A [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/Article_list_maker&diff=prev&oldid=1281200354 classically trained vandal], I suppose: truly random in a way rarely seen these days. Bravo. I did EC protect the template though because this messed up like 1000 pages. Thanks for letting me know !!! jp×g🗯️ 01:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

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It looks like you and I both noticed that Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2025-03-22 is not showing any content. Is it possible that Module:Signpost/index/2025 needs to be updated for the page to work? – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:54, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

:Yeah, I don't have a working laptop, so if I get scheduled for two overnight shifts with no notice on opposite sides of a DMV appointment two hours away and have to sleep in my car I cannot run the script that populates it. However, it can be fixed without that -- if you have the SignpostTagger, opening that on a page and then saving it with any modification (e.g. adding and removing the tag "test") should add it to the module's index. I tried this from my phone but there seems to be some mobile issue (??)... jp×g🗯️ 13:28, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

::Your life sounds fun! I activated the script and used it to "Manage tags" on one of the pages. I added ", test" to the tags, and it said that the Module page had been updated, but it looks like the Module page was just reordered. I also tried adding "accessibility" as a tag, since that is one of the supported aliases. When I clicked "Manage tags" again, the new tag that I thought I had added was not there. Hmm. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:20, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

:::Pinging {{U|Mr. Stradivarius}}, who may not be around. What step am I missing? – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:22, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

::::An [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Signpost/index/2025&curid=75716559&diff=1281801264&oldid=1279413279 edit by your bot] has added the necessary code to the module. It's still not clear to me what caused what. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:59, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::I got home and ran it just now. I think maybe something is goofed up somewhere but I will have to sleep on it and then try to figure it out... probably it is my fault. jp×g🗯️ 16:10, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::I just had a look, and it seems that SignpostTagger is broken when tagging new articles. I suspect this is caused by a change in MediaWiki, but I haven't pinpointed the cause of the problem yet. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:25, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I spoke too soon - it's just a good old-fashioned bug, introduced into SignpostTagger by yours truly [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mr._Stradivarius/gadgets/SignpostTagger.js&diff=prev&oldid=1132561628 in January 2023] when trying not to clobber WegweiserBot's edits. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::::Ok, the bug is now [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mr._Stradivarius/gadgets/SignpostTagger.js&diff=prev&oldid=1282135477 fixed]. I also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mr._Stradivarius/gadgets/SignpostTagger.js&diff=prev&oldid=1282139206 altered the order] of the saved Lua tables to match the order used by WegweiserBot, which should make for neater diffs. {{ping|JPxG}} Let me know if you add any more fields to the bot, and I will update SignpostTagger to match. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:57, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::Nice work. Thanks to both of you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:36, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

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journals in the business of making subjective claims

I'm following up on a comment you made in the Emancipatory Scholarship discussion, which is closed. When you wrote "I fear that the unintelligence of the opening comment to this section has caused people to react with kneejerk terror and suspicion to what is not only a reasonable claim, but already mostly true," what is the reasonable and mostly true claim that you're referring to? Is it "many publications representing themselves as academic journals are primarily in the business of making subjective claims"? The first two examples that Manuductive gave came from scholarship in the field of education. Do you believe, for example, that many education journals are primarily in the business of making subjective claims, and if so, what is the evidenciary basis for that / what are examples of journals in this set?

I do understand the difference between objective and subjective claims, and I understand that many statements made in STEM fields are objectively true. However, many claims made in social sciences are also objectively true. FactOrOpinion (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

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hedging the hogs

Hey JPxG, how are you? I saw and was puzzled by this edit linking "Hedgehog" in Ubuntu's table of releases. Why hedgehog, why hedgehog, and why only hedgehog? Aaron Liu (talk) 13:50, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

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Nowiki bug

Was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_v._Robinson&diff=prev&oldid=1285650699 this an autofilled edit summary]? The manual "[citation needed]" tag was added by an IP using the 2010 wikitext editor, and there aren't any nowiki tags in the article. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:27, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:A very large number of the errors fixed by that gigantic CN-fixer regex are from the visual editor (probably upwards of 70%) although that one wasn't. jp×g🗯️ 11:20, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

::I looked through the edits and found only one that introduced nowikis.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fereydun_Ebrahimi&diff=prev&oldid=1282406689] In that case, I think the editor copied the fact tag from the template's /doc page. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fereydun_Ebrahimi&diff=prev&oldid=1285650853 Your fix] was incomplete. Are you running a script? It should be able to detect nowikis and change the edit summary. Also, it's probably a good idea to put a link to the script in the edit summary. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:20, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Yes, it is a WP:JWB job I have been running for a couple years. I see this was not in the edit summary, so I think I unchecked something by mistake when running it. jp×g🗯️ 08:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::::The VE bug is very simple, and very obvious, and if memory serves, there's been a Phab ticket open for years. What it is, is that if you type a template out into the VE window:

::::{{citation needed}}

::::and save, then sometimes it will make the completely asinine assumption you're trying to literally put that string in the article, so it surrounds it with garbage like this:

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::::so that the article displays:

::::{{citation needed}}

::::Except sometimes it just puts the nowiki tags at completely random points in surrounding paragraphs. This had generated, over the years, thousands and thousands of messed-up citation template. The fix is pretty simple: have VE give a warning if you try to save it with a nowikied template in mainspace, because this is almost literally never intended behavior. However, nobody wants to do this, so instead a bunch of time is spent cleaning up the mess. jp×g🗯️ 08:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::The visual editor doesn't work that way. As soon as you type the second {, the visual editor will open the Insert > Template dialog box.

:::::If you are seeing [citation needed], with or without {{tag|sup}} tags, it means that the newbie didn't know how to add a template and just typed it in plain text. That's been happening forever, including before the visual editor existed.

:::::If you're seeing <nowiki>{{</nowiki>Citation needed<nowiki>}}</nowiki>, it means that someone copied and pasted the formatted text from Template:Citation needed/doc#Usage, and the visual editor assumed that the person pasted in formatted text because they wanted formatted text (which is not entirely unreasonable; what if you were writing a help page, or wanted to add that to the article Citation needed?). (If you copy it as unformatted text, the visual editor converts it to a template.) That could probably be reduced by fixing the documentation.

:::::If you're seeing [Template:Citation needed|citation needed], then that means that they copied a fact tag on an article (i.e., in "Read" mode) and pasted it in.

:::::Your suggested warning could be added to the Special:AbuseFilter. I doubt that it will do any good, though, as people aren't doing this on purpose. They're doing this because they haven't figured out our complicated software. Being told "you screwed up" isn't going to help them fix it.

:::::It looks like about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&hidecategorization=1&hideWikibase=1&hidelog=1&hidenewuserlog=1&tagfilter=nowiki+added&limit=1000&days=1&urlversion=2 140 nowiki tags were added] in the last day. About 70% of them were in the visual editor. 40% were IPs and non-autoconfirmed editors. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Dozens of unused and empty modules

Hey, I noticed dozens of unused and empty modules you created such as Module:Signpost/index/2027. What was the problem you were trying to fix with this? If you point me to the part of the code I can take a look, as this isn't the way to handle it. Gonnym (talk) 17:22, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Gonnym}} Sure, I can clarify: the year is 2025, meaning that events in the year 2027 have not happened yet. Therefore, the Signpost indices for 2027 do not have articles in them. jp×g🗯️ 20:12, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::Yes, I understand that. What I was asking is why did you feel the need in the current year of 2025 to create modules for years in the future, such as Module:Signpost/index/2099. If it was a bug in the code, point me to the area of the code where this was an issue and I'll try and fix it. Gonnym (talk) 06:24, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Because doing this with code would have been a gigantic, complicated, unnecessary waste of time -- it would have permanently contributed multiple lines of garbage (requiring sandboxing, deployment, and perpetual maintenance) to every one of the several different scripts that handle these module indices (SignpostTagger, SPS, Wegweiser, the list maker, the module itself, et cetera) to handle a special-snowflake edge case that happens at best once per year.

:::Adding more logic to a script increases the maintenance burden, forever, for every single person who ever has to use or troubleshoot or modify or extend the script. They must scroll past it. They must figure out what it does and how it works. If there is a problem, and they're trying to diagnose it, they must rule out that it interacts with the new stuff.

:::Contrariwise, the issue was solved completely for the entire rest of the 21st century with a JWB task that took me five minutes to run.

:::A good airplane is the lightest one that carries out its tasks. A good software program is the shortest one that carries out its tasks.

:::I am unable to understand the objection to the empty pages existing. Do they they affect you in any way whatsoever? They all occupy about a kilobyte -- again, it's 2025, and a kilobyte is substantially less than the comment I'm writing right now -- so I am unclear on why this is a problem. jp×g🗯️ 11:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Can you please point me to the place in the code where this is an issue? I've asked three times already and would like to see if this is indeed an issue as you say it is. Gonnym (talk) 15:48, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::All of it. All of the code is the place where it would be an issue to deliberately create errors and then write a bunch of extra code to work around them. Can you explain the fixation with these empty module indices? You have given literally no reason why they are a problem, or why any action needs to be taken whatsoever. jp×g🗯️ 06:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::If every single line of code you wrote in every single template and module you wrote is looking for the existence of Module:Signpost/index/2099 then the code you wrote is doing something terribly wrong and inefficient. Pretty disappointed you aren't going to dignify my query with an actual response. Gonnym (talk) 07:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I responded several times. Please read the code from the scripts I mentioned. jp×g🗯️ 07:48, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::::I would really prefer if you did not make further proposals about refactoring software if you have not bothered to read the code -- it is just a waste of time. jp×g🗯️ 08:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::* https://github.com/jp-x-g/wegweiser

:::::::::* User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/SignpostTagger.js

:::::::::* User:JPxG/SPS.js

:::::::::* Module:Signpost

:::::::::* Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/Article_list_maker

:::::::::* Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Single talk

:::::::::* Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Author

:::::::::* Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Article list maker/Snippet

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About your optimism

Regarding the thing I recently sent wiki-thanks for. Love your optimism! ☆ Bri (talk) 21:12, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Signpost publisher script

hey! Hope you are fine I am from bnwiki. I need some help for locslizing this script in our wiki. Can you please help us R1F4T (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

:The main problem is the portlet link isn't showing up R1F4T (talk) 20:43, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

::[https://bn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%B9%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%80:R1F4T/%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AA%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%95.js Here] is the forked script R1F4T (talk) 21:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

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