MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-footer#New tool for consideration

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Please add a non-breaking space   before the tag {{tag|sup|o}} in the last list item "accounts^(meta)" → "accounts ^(meta)", like so: Special:Diff/1274885732/1275069918. Rationale: consistency with the first tag {{tag|sup|o}} in the list item "Articles created ^(redirects)". —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:07, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

: {{done}} * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

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I'd like to suggest changing

* [{{fullurl:Special:ListUsers|limit=1&username={{urlencode:{{{1|Example}}}}}|QUERY}} User rights]

to

* Special:UserRights/{{{1

for a few reasons:

• It's cleaner, shorter, and uses a standard wikilink
• Special:UserRights shows the user's current rights (example) as Special:ListUsers does, so no loss of functionality, but additionally provides a history of rights changes, which can be useful
• Special:UserRights doesn't have the unnecessarily long paragraph at the top that describes what users are – if you're on a contributions page clicking a link called "User rights", you probably know this already

Iiii I I I (talk) 00:41, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:Added to sandbox. Comparison below: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:53, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

{{Sp-contributions-footer|MSGJ}}

{{Sp-contributions-footer/sandbox|MSGJ}}

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::{{ping|Iiii I I I|MSGJ|Pppery}} By any chance, would any of you object to including the old Special:ListUsers link as a superscript in addition to the Special:UserRights link? I've sandboxed the proposed change here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ASp-contributions-footer%2Fsandbox&diff=1297522480&oldid=1289393902] (now visible in MSGJ's comparison above). After years of having the old link, I started using that ListUsers link as a one-click way to see the exact timestamp when a user account was created, in addition to their user rights. I understand this may seem like a bit of a selfish request—if needed, I would be happy to ask around to see if anyone else would find this useful too. Mz7 (talk) 18:49, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Another argument is that, for administrators, the ListUsers interface is actually the less-cluttered one, since UserRights will take you to a form that lets you modify user rights. Mz7 (talk) 19:05, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::{{strikethrough|Note: the second to last link ("accounts") also shows the timestamp of account creation in section/box "Global account information" (second box from the top) as field "Registered:". —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)}}

:::: I take that back. For older accounts the "accounts" link can show the timestamp of when WP:SUL happened for the account (i.e. some time around 2015). —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::What nobody seems to have noticed is that the contributions page - which AFAIK is the only place that MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer is used - has the user account creation date at the top. For example, as I type this, Special:Contributions/Redrose64 shows "A user with 277,390 edits. Account created on 5 May 2009." So, for the purposes of checking that date, no additional link is necessary. What this doesn't provide is the actual time of creation, present in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers?username=Redrose64&limit=1 ListUsers]. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:59, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::🤦 Oh... All three of the pages mentioned so far show the WP:SUL date {{em|when enwiki is not the homewiki}}: Special:Contributions/Andrybak shows {{tq|Account created on 9 January 2015.}}, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=1&username=Andrybak ListUsers] – {{tq|Created on 5 May 2009 at 12:46}} {{ins|{{tq|Created on 9 January 2015 at 20:47}}}}, Special:CentralAuth/Andrybak – {{tq|Registered: 20:44, 9 January 2015 (10 years ago)}}.

::::::The only places showing the real™ account creation date are these pages on my homewiki, e.g. [https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BA_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2&uselang=en&username=Andrybak&limit=1 ListUsers] {{tq|Created on 8 October 2010 at 19:00}}.

::::::So it's all depends on what you count as the account creation. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::Er, ListUsers for Andrybak doesn't show "Created on 5 May 2009 at 12:46", it shows "Created on 9 January 2015 at 20:47". Where did you get the "Created on 5 May 2009 at 12:46" from? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::: That was a misclick, my bad. Corrected above. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)