Talk:Cello (web browser)#Interview

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Notes

=Links=

  • Pros
  • http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-16656543.html "Cello's strength is that it can reach a telnet, gopher or FTP address not in the URL syntax."
  • http://www.ucsc.edu/mdn/mdninfo1.html "I have not yet figured out an elegant way to do it with Cello, but I can offer a work-around. Define a text editor as viewer application. The editor should be able to handle large files (about 200 kbyte) without adding formatting tags. When the file arrives, it will be displayed, but don't bother to read. Just save the file to disk and close the editor."



mabdul 13:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

=Interview=

It says at [http://books.google.com/books?id=hxsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA7#v=onepage&q=&f=false Network world] that they had an interview with the cello creator...but I can't find it.=(.Smallman12q (talk) 15:02, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

:I do think this was a web only-interview. but I also can't find it at the moment!

:On Bruce-wikipage there is following sentence "Cello was released on 8 June 1993.{{cite book | last = Gillies | first = James | authorlink = | coauthors = Cailliau, R. | title = How the Web was born: the story of the World Wide Web | publisher = Oxford University Press | date = 2000 | location = | pages = 235 | url = http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pIH-JijUNS0C&pg=PA235&dq=tom+bruce+cello&as_brr=3&cd=3#v=onepage&q=tom%20bruce%20cello&f=false | doi = | id = | isbn = 9780192862075 }}" The date didn't fit, or? mabdul 16:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

:::I mailed the webteam of NetworkWorld if they have any access to old pages/archive and can me send a copy of that interview. mabdul 14:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

::::So I finally found the interview...its at http://www.networkworld.com/news/1997/1027browser.html .I found it doing a google search for {{google|cello site:http://www.networkworld.com/news/}}. It has some very nice quotes which will add to the article =D.Smallman12q (talk) 18:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

:::::Hey that's really cool. good search! The dates would fit, but this doesn't seam to be a "real interview" for me. I expected something different (although it has really interesting facts in this article). Also couldn't find the number 4421, which was in the introduction for the so-called DocFinder. mabdul 19:44, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Traxs7 has found another link at http://www.networkworld.com/news/1997/1027browser3.html ...and I found another one at http://www.networkworld.com/news/1997/1027browser2.html for other obscure browsers. I have now found all 3 related links at archive.org at:

  • http://web.archive.org/web/20000130111943/http://www.nwfusion.com/news/1997/1027browser.html
  • http://web.archive.org/web/20011005005015/www.nwfusion.com/news/1997/1027browser2.html - covers hotjava, lynx, Arachne
  • http://web.archive.org/web/20011005005601/http://www.nwfusion.com/news/1997/1027browser3.html

Smallman12q (talk) 12:09, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

References

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System Requirements

Cello has the following system requirements: [55][56][7]

* Processor: 80386(386SX) at 16Mhz[51] [7]or better

* Operating System: Windows 3.1 / 3.11 / Windows NT 3.5[4][5] / OS/2.[14]

* Ram: 2 MB RAM, 4 MB RAM recommended[41]

* A TCP/IP connection running Winsock

Microsoft 3.1/3.11 is not an operating system. It's a Graphical User Interface (GUI) that runs on top of any one of several versions of DOS. It's a minor point and I probably wouldn't have noticed, but it made the "Did You Know" column on April 4, 2010. I suspect this statement, being on Wikipedia's front page, may attract a little attention.Yasgur (talk) 00:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

:I'm aware that under certain technical definitions, Windows 3.1/3.11 would not qualify as an independent operating system. But as microsoft advertised it as one, and there are a number of reliable source referring to Windows 3.11 as an operating system, it is generally considered to be a Windows operating system. Microsoft states that

{{quote|Many longtime PC users trace the Microsoft Windows® operating system to the 1990 release of Windows 3.0, the first widely popular version of Windows and the first version of Windows many PC users ever tried.|http://www.microsoft.com/windows/winhistorydesktop.mspx}}

I do agree that Windows 3.1/3.11 is pretty much a GUI to DOS...but it is still considered an operating system by most.Smallman12q (talk) 02:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

::I'd also like to thank you for your interest, given that you only seem to edit a few times per year ^.^ Smallman12q (talk) 02:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Lovelace

Should we link Lovelace with Ada Lovelace? mabdul 15:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

:I think you're confusing it with [http://www.adahome.com/Tutorials/Lovelace/install.txt Lovelace Ada]. It should probably be linked to Ada (programming language).Smallman12q (talk) 23:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Comparison

Is it really wise to add the comparison with other browsers in this article instead of creating a new article (or include this in the Comparison of web browsers)? do we have any more data(or browsers) to add? mabdul 15:52, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Multimedia Internet Browsers

Anyone know the difference between [http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5790793.html Multimedia Internet Browsers](MIB) and regular Internet browsers?Smallman12q (talk) 01:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

:Mosaic is a multimedia, hypertext linked browser for the Internet. Most of the multimedia communication for Mosaic is handled using the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) and files or formatted data using the Hypertext Markup Language (HTML). This format provides for a mingling of text, graphics, video, sound and hypertext links by "tagging" a text document using HTML. Data encoded using HTML is often referred to as an "HTML document," an "HTML page" or a "home page". These documents and other Internet resources may be accessed across the network by means of a network addressing scheme. These addresses, as used by Mosaic, are referred to as Uniform Resource Locators (URLs).

:nearly every browser except lynx! *g* mabdul 07:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

::Ye...figured as much...the multimedia part doesn't appear anymore=P. I found a few Cello links on W3C at http://www.w3.org/History/1993/WWW/Cello/ and http://www.w3.org/History/1993/WWW/Windows/ .Smallman12q (talk) 19:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

"high tarffic site"

At 20 April 2010 a news article on [http://www.favbrowser.com/cello-first-windows-web-browser/ favbrowser.com] quadruplicate [http://stats.grok.se/en/201004/Cello_(web_browser) the views on the 22.4.] mabdul 13:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

... referee

[https://groups.google.com/group/comp.infosystems.www/msg/c8585da4f5ce9652?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect] (not from Indiana this one)

Cello did have toolbar buttons

Cello had two toolbar buttons from the start (from version 0.1 beta): Back [LMB*]/Abort [RMB*] and Home. In later versions, the Stop button was added.

  • ) L/RMB - Left/Right Mouse Button. MarMi wiki (talk) 14:45, 15 November 2019 (UTC)