Talk:Georgia (country)#Requested move 10 January 2025

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Mikheil Kavelashvili

ist not president of Georgia ?

Hoffmansk (talk) 12:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

:Mikhail Kavelashvili has been elected President of Georgia by the Electoral Collage - however the Georgian Parliamentary elections produced a majority for people who are not liked by the forces who influence Wikipedia. Of course conservatives also sometimes claim that elections are rigged - for example the 2020 United States Presidential election and the last Presidential election in Brazil. So it is a matter of perspective. 2A02:C7C:E1BA:CE00:B0AE:56A2:E9C6:BB70 (talk) 11:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

::It's not about "forces who influence Wikipedia" (which, obviously is speculation), it's about official recognition: Mikheil Kavelashvili is recognized only by the few countries, including occupying country and neighbors, which usually stay on recognition for a diplomatic reasons, while Salome Zurabishvili is still recognized by the most of the countries. GioMac (talk) 17:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

The term of office of Salome Zourabichvili has expired - this person is no longer President of Georgia.

The article lists Salome Zourabichvili as the President of Georgia - the term of office of this lady has expired, this person is no longer President of Georgia. 2A02:C7C:E1BA:CE00:B0AE:56A2:E9C6:BB70 (talk) 09:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:No. Check what Irakli Kobakhidze said [https://civil.ge/archives/645580 today]: reiterating that [Zurabishvili's] term would end on December 29 and she would be replaced “by elected president Mikheil Kavelashvili”.

:There seems to be some misunderstanding that since she was inaugurated on 16 December 2018, it should be exactly the six years (until 16 December 2024). That is not the case. The procedure is that transfer of power is when the new president is inaugurated. See also the previous presidents (see for example Giorgi Margvelashvili - he was a month beyond the exact 5 years). They don't get dismissed at exactly the 5 years, with weeks until the inauguration of the new president the speaker of parliament as placeholder. It is a standard procedure she is still the president until the 29th, regardless what one thinks of the election and the legitimacy of Kavelashvili (which is a separate discussion). So, she is still the president, fully legal. Labrang (talk) 13:56, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you for correcting my error. 2.126.135.62 (talk) 20:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 10 January 2025

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved per WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure) ~~ Jessintime (talk) 05:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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:Georgia (country) → {{no redirect|Republic of Georgia}}
:Georgia (U.S. state) → {{no redirect|State of Georgia}}

– Common disambiguation. 143.179.74.165 (talk) 11:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

::Note: in the second proposal above, "Georgia (U. S. state)" has been changed to "Georgia (U.S. state)" because the former is a redirect. Redirects are ineligible to be current titles in move requests. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 16:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose as neither is a common name, and "state of Georgia" can just as easily refer to the sovereign state as to the US one. Largoplazo (talk) 12:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Speedy close per Talk:Georgia (country)/Archive 10#Requested move 10 April 2024. Both are republics, both are states, the country isn't called the Republic of Georgia, we don't need a week on this. CMD (talk) 12:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose and recommend speedy closure. Given the history and complexity of debate on this topic, a two-word nomination with zero supporting evidence merits no consideration. ╠╣uw [talk] 13:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose This has been discussed a lot already, and far better proposals have been rejected. Neither of these proposed article titles is likely to be the topic a reader searches for, and so this seems a nonstarter. John (talk) 13:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose per above replies, common name for both the country and the U.S. state is "Georgia". jamacfarlane (talk) 14:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Oppose and recommend speedy closure for the reasons given above. --Coolcaesar (talk) 16:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose for the reasons above.--Shavtara (talk) 21:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose and recommend a WP:SNOW WP:RMEC closure. I'd reiterate my comment from the April RM. SilverLocust 💬 09:12, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Oppose. This would only create confusion as "state" does not imply "US state". JIP | Talk 11:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

:*Oppose; Georgia isn't called the Republic of Georgia. Not anymore, at least.
Did I mention Eritrea? Eritrea.
This seemed obvious for Georgia at first. But not the Eurasian Georgia, the American one. For a few seconds.
But oops. Guess that was the wrong idea. It may be the official name, but something tells me this wi.. hold on why is it "(U.S. state)" and not "(United States)" or "(U.S.A.)"? There's probably some policy I'm missing here with that.
Now then, the Georgia that became independent from the Russian Empire, became a protectorate, un-became a protectorate, got occupied by the UK, got invaded and occupied again by another Russia (this time the USSR), and then declared independence again, and then fell into civil war for the next two years, and then had roughly 16% of it's territory rebel and jump ship inside of said civil war, and then that 16% turned into a 20% thanks to an outside power later on in it's life? Yeah, that Georgia. Even more opposed. Within that lifespan, the Republic of Georgia died and was replaced with just Georgia.

:Kxeon (talk) 04:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Republic of Georgia

Isn't that the official name? Why isn't it listed? Dr. Precursor (talk) 23:03, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

:We use common names so it's easy for our readers to find. United States vs United States of America Moxy🍁 23:09, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

:The answer to your first question is No. Largoplazo (talk) 10:15, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

::Is Georgia not a republic? Dr. Precursor (talk) 14:19, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

:::According to the constitution, the country is called Georgia. Prior to the adoption of the constitution in 1995 the official name was indeed "Republic of Georgia". This is explained in the article, [https://matsne.gov.ge/en/document/view/30346?publication=36 with reference to article 2.1 of the constitution]. These are periodically recurring questions. The weakness of archiving here. Labrang (talk) 17:49, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

::::And yes, it is a republic, but no, as said, it is not officially called "Republic of Georgia". Labrang (talk) 17:50, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::Labrang, perhaps add your explanation to the nutshell FAQ? CMD (talk) 06:23, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::Sure. Where in the yellow section above (assuming you mean that) it would be most suitable? Labrang (talk) 20:56, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::I didn't think deeper than adding a fourth bullet point. "It is sometimes thought that the official name of this country is "Republic of Georgia". Prior to the..." CMD (talk) 06:14, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

::::I did not know that. I knew it was a republic but i thought the official name was Republic of Georgia. I wanted to edit that in but didnt because I didn't know if consensus was reached of whether or not to do that. Dr. Precursor (talk) 04:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Change government title to “Dominant party unitary parliamentary republic” due to current events.

Due to current events, including the opposition refusing their mandates, and the ruling Georgian Dream threatening to ban the main opposition, I believe that we should change the name to a dominant party democracy. CukormentesKenyer (talk) 19:45, 28 May 2025 (UTC)