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Hello there! Thank you for fixing the names - much clearer now. (Tom is an unusual middle name for a woman, that was part of my confusion.)

For your references, unfortunately all those WebCite footnotes are creating error messages. When you go back to edit the article, for every web reference you should click on Templates and select "cite web," then fill in the form with the URL and your access date.

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Gecko990 (talk) 21:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi again. Looks much better, doesn't it?

There's just one last thing to learn: many of your footnotes repeat the same source. Instead of listing those sources over and over again, you need to learn the "repeat citation" form - which gives each citation a name (in quotes) that you can use again lower down in short form. It's actually easier, once you figure it out.

Take a look at the section called Repeated Citations on this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Good work! Gecko990 (talk) 03:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Another thought. You refer to Speer as "Ben." You must change those mentions to "Speer," to give the article the formal tone of an encyclopedia.Gecko990 (talk) 11:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, one last fix and then I think you'll be good to go. The tone of the article is still too enthusiastic about Speer, rather than sounding neutral. Could you make the text sound more like an encyclopedia? (Especially phrases like "yet another benefited from his talents...") Thank you!Gecko990 (talk) 02:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Keeps getting better! But I hesitate to make the decision alone that this is "notable" and am hoping another editor will do so. I think I would be good to formally list Ben Speer's best-known recordings, using Wiki citation format. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources, under "Sound recordings." Good luck! Gecko990 (talk) 13:23, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

:I believe this was improperly declined. Please resubmit, and I will promote if you let me know. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 16:05, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey, you made it!Gecko990 (talk) 14:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

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78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 12:46, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

So you can follow along, and provide input if you wish, here's the DYK nomination

{{Did you know nominations/The Adventures of Ellery Queen (radio program)}}

78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 18:28, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

:Thank you! I appreciate that. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:32, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

::You're more than welcome! I hope you like the "hook". If you think of a better one, let me know, or you can propose it yourself on the template, of course. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 18:52, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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78.26 (His Wiki's Voice) 02:38, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

:again per above 78.26 (His Wiki's Voice) 19:28, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

:I appreciate your kind words and the awesome Wikipedian recognition very much. Thank you! I still have much to learn about Wikipedia, and I appreciate the help I have received from those who are more experienced than I am. I have a great appreciation for the era of old-time radio. I hope to continue writing articles about its programs and its people, in addition to adding to some of the OTR articles that already exist. Eddie Blick (talk) 19:07, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

:: Six years ago, you were recipient no. 887 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

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:Please see new note on DYK template. Yoninah (talk) 23:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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Replace the bog source with a reliable one. Skr15081997 (talk) 02:59, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions on Bluffton! I looked at it, and discovered that John Levi Sheppard was born in Bluffton, Alabama, but that Bluffton is now known as Lanett, Alabama, and is in Chambers County, Alabama. So I updated the information on his page and Lanett's page. The incorporation date you gave corresponds with the date that Lanett was founded. Also, I'm pretty sure that most of the Bluffton mentions on google books were dealing with the Bluffton in Chambers County. I did find some information about the iron mines in Bluffton, Cherokee County, Alabama though, and I added that to the article. You can read it and make any changes or suggestions to the wording. Again, thanks for the tips!Dofftoubab (talk) 04:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

:You're welcome; I'm glad I could help. Sometimes just having a fresh eye look at an article can make a difference. That's interesting about the change in names of places, resulting in essentially two Blufftons in Alabama's history and making things confusing for anyone doing research on the topic. The article looks much better now. I will re-read it more carefully, but I already like the additional detail that you included. Have you used Google Books much in other research? When I'm doing research for my articles (mainly related to old-time radio) I often find useful material there and in Google's newspaper archives. Eddie Blick (talk) 14:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

::I have used Google Books before. I usually just do a basic search on Google using a community's name, then after sifting through the first few pages of advertisements and useless websites I make it to the results from Google Books. It's a pretty valuable tool--especially for historical research. Dofftoubab (talk) 14:52, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

:If you would like to go directly to Google Books, bypassing "the first few pages of advertisements and useless websites," try http://books.google.com/advanced_book_search. That page offers several options for fine-tuning a search. Eddie Blick (talk) 15:32, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

::Thanks! I usually do the regular search, in case I come across historical society websites or sites that may mention a community, but I'll bookmark this link too. Dofftoubab (talk) 18:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I think posting a list of resources would be useful as there must be people who are unaware of them. Someone told me about the American Radio site a few months ago, and I thought it was worth mentioning it at WP:RADIO. I tend to work mostly on stuff relating to British television, but American Radio has several BBC yearbooks which cover both radio and television, so great for mining information. This is Paul (talk) 18:33, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

:That sounds like a good idea, although your link would also be archived after a while, but hopefully there would be enough time for others to see the list. You could also ask if there's a place where such things are posted. I'm not sure if there is myself, but somebody who reads it is certain to know This is Paul (talk) 19:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

::You're welcome, good luck with it. This is Paul (talk) 19:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

:::Looks good so far. This is Paul (talk) 23:00, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

::::Looks like a comprehensive list, should be a useful resource. This is Paul (talk) 15:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

:::::Thanks! I appreciate that. Eddie Blick (talk) 16:15, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Teblick, you need to supply a new hook for this nomination, since the old hook could not be supported per DYK requirements. Please stop by as soon as you can. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:47, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

:I don't have a new hook for the nomination. In the discussion on the talk page, I wrote, "If I can't mention that the program was rare -- if not unique -- then that eliminates the hook, so the nomination can be withdrawn from consideration for DYK. I will accept that fact." I still prefer that the nomination be withdrawn, deleted, or whatever the proper term is. Thank you. Eddie Blick (talk) 18:56, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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:I don't believe I edited the 1945 radio page. I couldn't find the error to correct. Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:25, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I couldn't find many sources beyond imdb. The studio closed 44 years ago. I have no access to Los Angeles Times's of the 1950 and 1960s.Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:24, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm trying to work my way through all the great pages you've added on old radio and come up with photos if I can. Just so you know and don't get into hot water ;), when the photos or images are in the public domain, as the Herb Butterfield one is, there's no problem about adding it as many places as you like. It's the non-public domain AKA non-free ones that shouldn't be on more than one page. We hope (talk) 18:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

:I try to work on the people from OTR every chance I get. Sometimes, though, one gets frustrated with the lack of information you can find about a given program, even with the Lantern and OTR sites. We were just talking about Johnny Mercer's Music Shop the other day. I've bookmarked some references about it but it looks like we'll need to buy a couple of books about Johnny Mercer to be able to do an article on the show. We hope (talk) 19:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

You've covered everything I use and know about at present, but if I hear of something new, I'll be sure to let you know.We hope (talk) 14:23, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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You don't have to add the section header (as you did [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WROV-FM&diff=prev&oldid=638727947 here]) then save it and then add the information (as you did in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WROV-FM&curid=12261844&diff=638728249&oldid=638727947 the following edit]). You can do both in one edit. :) Keep up the great work! - Neutralhomer • Talk • 08:38, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:38, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! Am going to share the information with This is Paul as he and I hope to do more with Johnny Mercer's article. Paul got the book Skylark not long ago. I know he'll be glad to listen to some of the Music Shop shows because Jo Stafford was the female vocalist on it! ;) Thanks again! We hope (talk) 21:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

::Thanks for sending me over to both spots! The internet archive has a transcript of a radio show done by Lillian Randolph (#5), who's also an interest of mine. The University has an extensive Johnny Mercer Oral History collection which is all transcribed, online and licensed as Creative Commons 4.0; this should make enlarging the article a lot easier. Was also able to get a larger, better quality copy of Paul Weston's Capitol Records photo while I was there! :) We hope (talk) 03:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Wow, I wish I knew you were working on this. Great work as usual. I have a whole bunch of pictures I can add from my collection, from 12" bare-aluminum from the early 1930s to microgroove AFRS transcriptions from the early 60s. I have a feeling it would be best if the Electrical transcriptions and Transcription disc articles were merged, to avoid Wikipedia:Content forking. But perhaps I'm missing something and they should continue to be separate. What are your thoughts on the subject? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:31, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

:My opinion is that the main article should be electrical transcription (we will have to move the content over the current re-direct) and that transcription disc and electrical transcriptions should redirect there. I have modified the Old-time radio article section to link to this expanded article. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

:::This probably should be discussed on the talk pages of the relevant articles. I'll move the discussion there. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:52, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

::::Please comment here: Talk:Electrical transcription. thanks! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:01, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 16:21, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Have a look and sign yourself up [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:McFarland here]. There are a lot of radio-related books. You can look through the titles [http://www.mcfarlandbooks.com/book-categories/ here]. We're each allowed to get 5 books in a year. We hope (talk) 02:08, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

:If you sign up for the Wikipedia Library Newsletter, you'll get notices about opportunities like this one. There are also journal and newspaper subscriptions if you're interested. We hope (talk) 03:16, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

::How about getting on the waiting list for Wikipedia:Newspapers.com ? I have a subscription and find it's very helpful with just about everything. The Google archives used to be a lot easier to use. Now you have to try "beating" information out of them. Very frustrating for me when I try using their news archive or magazines connected with Google Books. What used to be a simple search that required only your patience in going through the hits for the right ones, is now an exercise in trying to find the "magic words" for searches to get what you want to turn up.

::The Chicago Tribune archive is good--will probably be better once they add more to it. At that point, they expect to offer it through paid subscription only. It might be good to bring this up at the Wikipedia Library; it may be possible for the Library to work out a plan for editors to have subscriptions once it goes all-pay. Most of this (newspaper subscriptions, books), are offered to people who have been here at least a year. Since this is the start of your second year at WP, you're now eligible for things like this. :) We hope (talk) 14:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

:::I've thought about signing up for JSTOR since I see they do have some material on the articles I regularly work on. Just haven't gotten around to doing that--sometimes there's too much work in other areas and so I keep putting it off. ;) We hope (talk) 14:07, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

::::Not seeing why there aren't enough links, either. Some articles would kill to have that many and many don't have tags asking for more. :) There are no rules about how many or few reflinks to an article. You need to have some to start, of course, so it can be seen that what you've written isn't original research--yours or someone else's. The rules about reflinks are that they need to be from reliable sources--not from places like the National Enquirer which might have a headline like "50,000 Year Old Man Living In Cave". :) Even if an article has many reflinks, reliable ones generally are very welcome. Why not post a note to the editor on his/her talkpage and ask him/her to be specific as to what type of reflinks seem to be missing. We hope (talk) 14:41, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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For the Jo Stafford Club 15 info. Have been working on getting a big bunch of various news photos uploaded for the last few days, so most of my time lately has been put in at Commons. Will be sharing the Club 15 links with Paul and know he'll enjoy listening too! :) We hope (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to be so late with this. Started helping with the Waldorf-Astoria project and one thing led to another...:) Until you told me, I hadn't investigated the rest of what UPenn has online. Know I just about wear out their copyright book links, but never really thought about them having anything more than that. Will take a look through what they have and see if there's anything I can use. Don't remember if you have this one or not: [http://lantern.mediahist.org/ Lantern Media History]. This is via the University of Wisconsin. While there are a lot of film magazines there, there's also ones for just radio and fan magazines like Radio Mirror and Radio-TV Mirror. There are times you can find articles on various radio shows and those who worked in them. We hope (talk) 02:05, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

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We'd seen mentions of the program in places like Billboard and magazines. When Peggy Lee joined the Supper Club, Jo Stafford cut her hosting duties back to only 1 night a week-she hosted one, Peggy Lee hosted 1 and Como kept hosting his 3 nights a week. Around the time Jo Stafford started hosting the Supper Club one night a week, she started hosting the Revere Camera show. It was a good opportunity for her-having her own radio program, and ABC, which was still relatively new, must have been happy to turn that block of time into a paying one. ;) I think many of the music/variety programs we're able to listen to today survived because they were transcribed for service people during WWII. I know the Supper Club did two shows each night--one for the Eastern US and one a bit later for the West. I believe all of the "Supper Club" compilations on the market now came from Armed Forces Radio transcripts. Things like Amos 'n' Andy and the soap operas were recorded and played back at the necessary later times for West Coast stations, so they had a better chance to still be around for us to listen to.

A while ago there was a very large "find" of many of Martin Block's old programs. He devoted part of his Saturday broadcasts every week to jazz and his guests would be various jazz musicians and bands who would perform live. A man had recorded many of them for many years. When he died, his son discovered the recordings, wondered what they were and started listening to them. The man was a professional so the quality of the recordings he made was very good. Much of what he recorded was never heard anywhere else and would never have been heard again, but for his recordings. The son salvaged the recordings and sold them to the National Jazz Museum. We hope (talk) 03:50, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

:The law used to be that complete copies of everything that was aired (radio and television) were kept for one year. Then the station could re-use/destroy, etc. the media it was on. For tapes, the tapes were re-used when that year was up. It took some time before broadcasters realized copies of a lot of this should be saved for history. I think the first 10 years of the Tonight Show with Carson were recorded over this way. We hope (talk) 15:08, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Am very happy to know this! I've used Billboard for quite a few projects--there are a lot of photos in the ads that were not copyrighted as well as the standard music information. Did know it was offered there, but thought it was a link to Google. Google has been frustrating for me for some time; started when they stopped adding to the newspaper archive and did something to the search for it. After a while, the same thing happened with magazine searches at Google. It used to be easy to find something in Billboard and newspapers there, but the standard for me has been that I need to "beat" the information out of their databases for some time now. :/

You might find something [http://www.unz.org/Home/Introduction here]. At first, it's a bit hard to find out where to put your search keywords, but once you use the [http://www.unz.org/Pub/AllPublications?View=Search text box], what's on the site will turn up. The only "ouch" you may find is: articles that are "split" (continued on page X), are a little more difficult to deal with. You get the start of the article in a "chunk", and then need to work to try finishing it. Suggestion here is-if you find something interesting and it continues, go back and start reading the complete magazine. Thanks again! :) We hope (talk) 14:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

:I'm wondering if anything earlier still physically exists. I'd believe older issues might, because a copy had to be filed with the Copyright Office to file for copyright; many of the old magazines seen at Lantern are scans of the originals filed at the Copyright Office. We hope (talk) 22:15, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

::Have not yet had the chance to do much with the ARH scans of Billboard. Was there today looking for an ad for an old television show. ARH didn't have a copy of the Billboard it was in, so I had to go to Google. First I tried the name of the show's star--didn't find the ad. Next I tried the title of the program--didn't find it. When I got frustrated and typed part of the first sentence of the copy into search, the ad came up--finally! I remember when entering the name of the star of the program would have gotten me to where I wanted to go. No idea what what's been done to the search and why they haven't done anything about it. We hope (talk) 03:11, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

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I used to use WebCite a lot. A while back, some things happened to me there. Every time I went to the site to try for an archived link, my A/V would go off, saying it had just stopped a trojan download. I also used one particular gmail address for this and then I started getting overrun by spam. There were more than a dozen a day of these. I asked another editor who also used it a lot if similar things were happening to him. He was using a different A/V program than I was and his A/V was also being set off at WebCite. He also had a mailbox full of spam. We thought the site had been hacked, with the hackers getting hold of the e-mail addresses used for citations and putting malware on the website.

I contacted them but never got a reply; also contacted Google about getting rid of the spammers, but of course, they did nothing. I dumped the e-mail address because it was now worthless to me. Gave up using the site and switched to using wayback machine for archiving. With wayback, you don't need to give any e-mail addresses, but you will need to bookmark the links because you don't go through the e-mail step. We hope (talk) 04:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

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Has WikiProject X changed the world yet? No.

We opened up shop last month and announced our existence to the world. Our first phase is the "research" phase, consisting mostly of reading and listening. We set up our landing page and started collecting stories. So far, 28 stories have been shared about WikiProjects, describing a variety of experiences across numerous WikiProjects. A recurring story involves a WikiProject that starts off strong but has trouble continuing to stay active. Most people describe using WikiProjects as a way to get feedback from other editors. Some quotes:

• "Working on requested articles, utilising the reliable sources section, and having an active WikiProject to ask questions in really helped me learn how to edit Wikipedia and looking back I don't know how long I would have stayed editing without that project." – Sam Walton on WikiProject Video Games
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We also have 50 people and projects signed up for pilot testing, which is an excellent start! (An important caveat: one person volunteering a WikiProject does not mean the WikiProject as a whole is interested; just that there is at least one person, which is a start.)

While carrying out our research, we are documenting the problems with WikiProjects and our ideas for making WikiProjects better. Some ideas include better integration of existing tools into WikiProjects, recommendations of WikiProjects for people to join, and improved coordination with Articles for Creation. These are just ideas that may or may not make it to the design phase; we will see. We are also working with WikiProject Council to improve the directory of WikiProjects, with the goal of a reliable, self-updating WikiProject directory. Stay tuned! If you have any ideas, you are welcome to leave a note on our talk page.

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I use many, many photos from old magazines! Before you use something, though, you need to look up whether or not the magazine's copyright was renewed. I look them up here, at [http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/cce/ UPenn]. You would look up renewals in the periodicals section; most of the books have links specifically for just looking up renewals.

Anything that would have been renewed before 1978 would be at UPenn; anything after that would be at the copyright.gov link. When you use the UPenn books, you need to look up the magazine in both the 27th and 28th year after publication as some people did renew early. These go by the magazine's title, but at copyright.gov, you can either look up the title or the publisher--whichever is easier for what you're doing. Most of the time I check the title, but if I'm not sure about whether I'm seeing the complete information about what I'm searching for, I then check by publisher's name.

The copyright license for photos from magazine like this is copyright not renewed. Take a look at some I've done from the radio magazines that are copyright not renewed and you should get an idea of how to do it. :File:Jo Stafford color photo 1948.jpg :File:Crocketts of Kentucky cast 1934.jpg :File:The Pied Pipers 1944.jpg If you're working from any of the "Lantern" magazines, you can download either the specific page(s) you want or the entire magazine in PDF. OTRR allows you to download the entire magazine in PDF.

If you don'r have a Commons account, you ought to sign up for one so you can upload your PD photos there. If you get stuck with anything, let me know either there or here and I'll give you a hand. ;) We hope (talk) 17:05, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

::You can use them. I'd make a note when I upload that these were checked in periodicals for those years and no renewals were found. I'd also leave a link for each year on the template (this is what I do) in case someone wants to verify the information. As before, let me know either here or at Commons if you want me to take a look. After a very short time, you'll be doing these like you've done them for ages. :) We hope (talk) 22:14, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

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For this month's issue...

Making sense of a lot of data.

Work on our prototype will begin imminently. In the meantime, we have to understand what exactly we're working with. To this end, we generated a list of 71 WikiProjects, based on those brought up on our Stories page and those who had signed up for pilot testing. For those projects where people told stories, we coded statements within those stories to figure out what trends there were in these stories. This approach allowed us to figure out what Wikipedians thought of WikiProjects in a very organic way, with very little by way of a structure. (Compare this to a structured interview, where specific questions are asked and answered.) This analysis was done on 29 stories. Codes were generally classified as "benefits" (positive contributions made by a WikiProject to the editing experience) and "obstacles" (issues posed by WikiProjects, broadly speaking). Codes were generated as I went along, ensuring that codes were as close to the original data as possible. Duplicate appearances of a code for a given WikiProject were removed.

We found 52 "benefit" statements encoded and 34 "obstacle" statements. The most common benefit statement referring to the project's active discussion and participation, followed by statements referring to a project's capacity to guide editor activity, while the most common obstacles made reference to low participation and significant burdens on the part of the project maintainers and leaders. This gives us a sense of WikiProjects' big strength: they bring people together, and can be frustrating to editors when they fail to do so. Meanwhile, it is indeed very difficult to bring editors together on a common interest; in the absence of a highly motivated core of organizers, the technical infrastructure simply isn't there.

We wanted to pair this qualitative study with quantitative analysis of a WikiProject and its "universe" of pages, discussions, templates, and categories. To this end I wrote a script called [https://github.com/harej/projanalysis ProjAnalysis] which will, for a given WikiProject page (e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Trek) and WikiProject talk-page tag (e.g. Template:WikiProject Star Trek), will give you a list of usernames of people who edited within the WikiProject's space (the project page itself, its talk page, and subpages), and within the WikiProject's scope (the pages tagged by that WikiProject, excluding the WikiProject space pages). The output is an exhaustive list of usernames. We ran the script to analyze our test batch of WikiProjects for edits between March 1, 2014 and February 28, 2015, and we subjected them to further analysis to only include those who made 10+ edits to pages in the projects' scope, those who made 4+ edits to the projects' space, and those who made 10+ edits to pages in scope but not 4+ edits to pages in the projects' space. This latter metric gives us an idea of who is active in a certain subject area of Wikipedia, yet who isn't actively engaging on the WikiProject's pages. This information will help us prioritize WikiProjects for pilot testing, and the ProjAnalysis script in general may have future life as an application that can be used by Wikipedians to learn about who is in their community.

Complementing the above two studies are a design analysis, which summarizes the structure of the different WikiProject spaces in our test batch, and the comprehensive census of bots and tools used to maintain WikiProjects, which will be finished soon. With all of this information, we will have a game plan in place! We hope to begin working with specific WikiProjects soon.

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We have demos!

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Once the demo is sufficiently developed, we will be working on a limited deployment on our pilot WikiProjects. We have selected five for the first round of testing based on the highest potential for impact and will scale up from there.

While a re-designed WikiProject experience is much needed, that alone isn't enough. A WikiProject isn't any good if people have no way of discovering it. This is why we are also developing an automatically updated WikiProject directory. This directory will surface project-related metrics, including a count of active WikiProject participants and of active editors in that project's subject area. The purpose of these metrics is to highlight how active the WikiProject is at the given point of time, but also to highlight that project's potential for success. The directory is not yet live but there is a demonstration featuring a sampling of WikiProjects.

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Hey. You made a slight mistake in creating the article on Nelson Case. The content is fine, it's just a procedural thing.

You created the article in your sandbox, and then copied-and-pasted it into the mainspace. Please don't ever use copy-and-paste this way, as it ruins the page's history. Instead, simply use the 'move' function. It's not difficult for administrators (like me) to "merge" the histories of the draft and the article, but it's always an extra task.

Keep up the good work. DS (talk) 14:19, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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